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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:28 AM Jul 2021

Tucker now making it obvious the NSA claim is him trying to get ahead of a very negative story.



Tweet text:
Justin Baragona
@justinbaragona
"Yesterday I learned — and this is going to come out soon — that the NSA leaked the contents of my e-mail to journalists in an effort to discredit me."

So Tucker now making it obvious the NSA claim is him trying to get ahead of a very negative story.

Tucker Carlson Claims the NSA Leaked His Emails to Journalists
Tucker Carlson claimed that the NSA leaked contents of his private emails to journalists during a Wendesday morning appearance on Mornings With Maria.
mediaite.com
6:05 AM · Jul 7, 2021


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-claims-the-nsa-leaked-contents-of-his-email-to-journalists/

Tucker Carlson claimed that the NSA leaked contents of his private emails to journalists, during a Wednesday morning appearance on Mornings With Maria.

Carlson alleged last week that the National Security Agency had monitored his private communications, which, if true, would be a massive scandal. Carlson’s claim has been met with skepticism. And curiously, his bombshell allegation was mostly ignored by the rest of Fox News in the days that followed. So Carlson’s appearance on Fox Business with anchor Maria Bartiromo is notable.

The interview opened with the Fox prime time host recapping his previous allegations. Then, he made some news.

“Yesterday I learned, that — and this is going to come out soon — that NSA, leaked the contents of my e-mail to journalists in an effort to discredit me,” Carlson claimed. “I know this because I got a call from one saying ‘oh, this is what your e-mail was about.”

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Tucker now making it obvious the NSA claim is him trying to get ahead of a very negative story. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz got caught on an intercept planning a sexcapade in another ... marble falls Jul 2021 #1
Pretty sure the NSA isn't involved. dawg day Jul 2021 #3
NSA does not monitor communication US to US. For the NSA to be involved requires ... marble falls Jul 2021 #5
It sounds like... not that we can believe him... dawg day Jul 2021 #16
Snowden claimed differently edhopper Jul 2021 #26
Snowden the traitor who escaped to Russia? n/t pnwmom Jul 2021 #28
That's about as fine a point as there could be. +1! marble falls Jul 2021 #32
But was what he said edhopper Jul 2021 #60
To avoid being thrown in a dark hole edhopper Jul 2021 #59
So you think Barrack Obama, and Joe Biden are the bad guys and 45 is OK cause he wanted ... marble falls Jul 2021 #61
No edhopper Jul 2021 #63
Who wants to put him in a hole that Barrack and Joe don't want him put into???? marble falls Jul 2021 #64
He released an untold number of files. The only way to prove the inaccuracy of his claims pnwmom Jul 2021 #65
This is about the NSA spying on US citizens edhopper Jul 2021 #66
What he claimed to show was meta-data, not monitoring contents of calls. nt pnwmom Jul 2021 #67
See my post #44 below. He essentially admitted he was emailing with a an NSA target, and said tblue37 Jul 2021 #48
Exactly ScratchCat Jul 2021 #6
Ewww... PsakiPswirli Jul 2021 #4
And his bow tie! Buns_of_Fire Jul 2021 #20
Attached to his choker collar...triple ewww.... PsakiPswirli Jul 2021 #24
That would be perfect malaise Jul 2021 #30
I've never seen anyone come so close to coming unglued without acrually going to pieces ... marble falls Jul 2021 #35
LOL malaise Jul 2021 #39
Well, it's definitely not a sex tape C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #2
There might be some sexy-time things that are kept hidden. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #8
I think they got caught with Gaetz in Costa Rica calling or e-mailing Tucker C that he had ... marble falls Jul 2021 #37
I mean I'm not saying this, I've heard other people saying it. The fact that neither party ... marble falls Jul 2021 #40
Yep, people are saying. I just can't remember who, other than just people. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #51
A lot of them. You know what they say, "where there's smoke, there's a weenie roast!" marble falls Jul 2021 #53
'You sound like a crazy person': Maria Bartiromo LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #7
When Bartiromo thinks you are crazy... hoo boy Effete Snob Jul 2021 #11
The combined IQ in that split-screen easily rivals my shoe size. -misanthroptimist Jul 2021 #18
I can't stand to look at her, Maria Bartiromo LiberalLovinLug Jul 2021 #27
So Tucker is getting "Clintonned?" Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #9
Why haven't journalists reported on the contents of those "leaked" emails? LonePirate Jul 2021 #10
Yes, someone could be threatening PatSeg Jul 2021 #31
Maybe because real journalists, unlike Tucker, have professional responsibility. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #36
That last sentence....I've been trying to compose myself but I am still howling ChubbyStar Jul 2021 #68
LOL! But...the emails! Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #12
the irony is delicious Skittles Jul 2021 #70
The NSA Doesn't Leak Deep State Witch Jul 2021 #13
My advice Turbineguy Jul 2021 #14
The long term NSA people I know are the sraightest fucking arrows as a group, I've ever ... marble falls Jul 2021 #46
Sex or treason? RockRaven Jul 2021 #15
Matt Gaetz said they had dinner together dawg day Jul 2021 #19
And who was the journalist? Keith Olbermann? Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #17
Communications with his boss in Moscow? lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #21
Didn't I just hear a story that the Russians hacked the RNC? -misanthroptimist Jul 2021 #22
Oh, damn. You're right! lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #23
So we're about to find out what kind of fucker this tucker is? hunter Jul 2021 #25
Cucker's gonna find out what happens when you've systematically destroyed your own credibility. n/t TygrBright Jul 2021 #29
I was thinking, maybe, its a distraction from him not voting for Trump in the last election Mr. Sparkle Jul 2021 #33
Wait a minute Tucker PatSeg Jul 2021 #34
If your hands are clean, Tuck, why don't you release the email yourself? Mr. Ected Jul 2021 #38
But your emails, Fucker. Iggo Jul 2021 #41
I hope Traildogbob Jul 2021 #42
I'm opposed to the death penalty Mr. Ected Jul 2021 #43
🤜🤛 Traildogbob Jul 2021 #45
You are too kind with the paper forks and straws ChubbyStar Jul 2021 #69
He's also squawking that he has every right to email anyone he wants to email, even if tblue37 Jul 2021 #44
He thinks too highly of himself not to have done something really stupid. He'll cop a plea ... marble falls Jul 2021 #49
Several things we can be sure of: 1. This has nothing to do with the NSA. They don't do enforcement. Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #47
No, it seems pretty clear ScratchCat Jul 2021 #52
So far as I can see it is only TC who claims the NSA released his email. Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #57
This part from the article is really weird. herding cats Jul 2021 #50
Why would his Executive Producer Know? ScratchCat Jul 2021 #55
Who is Tucker Carlson's immediate supervisor at Fox? nt PufPuf23 Jul 2021 #54
I remember a while back when he had Matt Gaetz on... stillcool Jul 2021 #56
Aside from the fact that I can't stand him, he sounds absolutely frantic... Hekate Jul 2021 #58
Hey you stupid Tucker? Want to know how to stop damaging news about you? alphafemale Jul 2021 #62

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
1. Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz got caught on an intercept planning a sexcapade in another ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jul 2021

... country in the Caribbean.

NSA intercepts have caught a lot of sex criminals in the last 10 years.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. Pretty sure the NSA isn't involved.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021

Something is coming out, and blaming it on the NSA is just so he can then claim the sex tape or 1/6 collaboration was fabricated by the agency's massive sex tale forgery unit, lol.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
5. NSA does not monitor communication US to US. For the NSA to be involved requires ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021

... at least one of the communicators to be out of the US.

NSA turns evidence it has of crimes over to FBI and other law enforcement.

Neither NSA or CIA are law enforcement, nor do they "operate" in the US against US citizens.

If Tucker was approached by law enforcement over information he knows was in an e-mail or cell call that was either one person in the US and both parties off-shore - it is a reasonable guess that NSA had some part in finding it and turning it over. It'd be a guess, but it'd also be a good possibility.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
16. It sounds like... not that we can believe him...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jul 2021

That it was a journalist who approached him, not the law enforcement. I don't know. He's trying so hard to lie.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
26. Snowden claimed differently
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jul 2021

said the protections were so narrow and out of date that they were no protections at all.
That said I doubt the NSA gives a fig about Tucker.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
59. To avoid being thrown in a dark hole
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

yes.
But the important thing is none of his claims have been disputed.
Traitor or not, he spoke the truth about what the NSA was doing.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
61. So you think Barrack Obama, and Joe Biden are the bad guys and 45 is OK cause he wanted ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jul 2021

... to cut the little weasel loose.

Did Barrack and Joe want to throw him in the same hole or different holes?

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
63. No
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jul 2021

I am simply discussing. what he reported about the NSA spying on Americans.
What justice he deserved is beside the point and not what I am talking about.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
64. Who wants to put him in a hole that Barrack and Joe don't want him put into????
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jul 2021

His "information" regarding the NSA should be considered for what it was: the report of a four-year veteran of an NSA contractor. If his proof was so good, why hasn't he shared it? Why hasn't he come back to put the lie to the NSA? Why haven't any of his charges gotten traction?

I know two 30yr+ NSA vets who think he's a self serving, self promoting bag of wind.

Who do you think is trying to "get" Snowden?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
65. He released an untold number of files. The only way to prove the inaccuracy of his claims
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jul 2021

would be to allow inspection of original files, which was obviously never going to happen.



edhopper

(33,579 posts)
66. This is about the NSA spying on US citizens
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jul 2021

marblefalls said

NSA does not monitor communication US to US. For the NSA to be involved requires ...

... at least one of the communicators to be out of the US.

NSA turns evidence it has of crimes over to FBI and other law enforcement.

Neither NSA or CIA are law enforcement, nor do they "operate" in the US against US citizens.

If Tucker was approached by law enforcement over information he knows was in an e-mail or cell call that was either one person in the US and both parties off-shore - it is a reasonable guess that NSA had some part in finding it and turning it over. It'd be a guess, but it'd also be a good possibility.


Snowden showed this is not true. They do monitor domestic communications. That is all I am saying.
Not here to debate the guilt of Snowden.

tblue37

(65,353 posts)
48. See my post #44 below. He essentially admitted he was emailing with a an NSA target, and said
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

he has every right to do so.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
6. Exactly
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jul 2021

Its a dead giveaway. That and the entire post-Trump RW plan is to just pretend to be victims of fake "crimes" and whatnot.

 

PsakiPswirli

(71 posts)
4. Ewww...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jul 2021

There will be a PTSD claim for an unfortunate NSA analyst. Tucker's snow white ass naked....except for his socks and wingtips.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
35. I've never seen anyone come so close to coming unglued without acrually going to pieces ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jul 2021

... as Tucker did at that interview. If he'd have been wearing a bow tie it would have started spinnng.

TheBlackAdder

(28,195 posts)
8. There might be some sexy-time things that are kept hidden.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jul 2021

.

Not saying any more, as it's purely unsubstantiated gossip. We'll see what this is about soon enough.

.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
37. I think they got caught with Gaetz in Costa Rica calling or e-mailing Tucker C that he had ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:57 PM - Edit history (1)

... an underage girl waiting for him.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
40. I mean I'm not saying this, I've heard other people saying it. The fact that neither party ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jul 2021

... has denied any of it, does make it seem to be true. I'm not saying, just recounting what I've heard a lot lately. It kinda makes you think, "Hmm ... how about that!"

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. When Bartiromo thinks you are crazy... hoo boy
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:02 AM
Jul 2021

That lady is more bananas than Harry Belafonte's career.

-misanthroptimist

(810 posts)
18. The combined IQ in that split-screen easily rivals my shoe size.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:09 AM
Jul 2021

Doesn't really exceed my shoe size, but it does rival it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
27. I can't stand to look at her, Maria Bartiromo
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jul 2021

She just looks disgusting to me. With her inflated botox lips and sleazy makeup. And of course her wilful ignorance style reporting. I would be creeped out if I were in the same room.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
10. Why haven't journalists reported on the contents of those "leaked" emails?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jul 2021

Either he’s lying that the emails were intercepted and released

OR

There’s nothing worthy of journalists’ time and effort within his emails

OR

Given his public downplaying of the emails and his defensive posturing, he has a skeleton in his closet that will soon become public by some means.

Take your pick I suppose.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
31. Yes, someone could be threatening
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jul 2021

to release his email(s), maybe even a recipient of said emails. He has said some pretty outrageous things publicly, so I would assume that the email contents must be really incriminating.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
36. Maybe because real journalists, unlike Tucker, have professional responsibility.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jul 2021

They are perhaps fact checking, verifying sources, weighing the contents and debating if the release is newsworthy or a violation of standards or ethics.

Tucker doesn't understand those things. He just likes to throw his linguini against the wall to see if it sticks.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
68. That last sentence....I've been trying to compose myself but I am still howling
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:15 PM
Jul 2021

Thank you, you are very clever.

Deep State Witch

(10,426 posts)
13. The NSA Doesn't Leak
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:04 AM
Jul 2021

No, F*cker. The National Security Agency does not leak the contents of emails. In fact, Reality Winner, an NSA contractor, is in jail for doing something similar.

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
46. The long term NSA people I know are the sraightest fucking arrows as a group, I've ever ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021

... seen. All of them ex-Air Force and a bunch of them Mormons. They have the most black/white judgement system. It would be bad if they really wanted to look at you. My 30 year ex-CIA spouse seems like a socialist next to them.

I'm like Dharma when I attend functions. I'm tolerated mostly. Nobody asked me to join the Masons, but they will sell me tickets to the chili dinner, the fish fry, the spaghetti dinner, hamburger day, bbq brisket.

They use Wolf Brand chili for their chili, fer pete's sake. HEB heat n serve brisket.

I need to go back to Ohio.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
19. Matt Gaetz said they had dinner together
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jul 2021

Gaetz, his college girl girlfriend.
Tucker and his wife.

Tuck acted like he'd never heard of such a thing.
It felt like Gaetz was reminding him of some encounter, like "remember when you paid me $ for an hour of her time?"

Greenberg was apparently doing something like that.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
17. And who was the journalist? Keith Olbermann?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jul 2021

"Olbermann was correct, so he must've been told by the NSA!"

Learn how to think logically, Tucker.

Olbermann's deduction:


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Communications with his boss in Moscow?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jul 2021

I'll bet he gets a lot of Roubles for pushing TrumPutin bullshit.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
34. Wait a minute Tucker
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jul 2021

How stupid are you that you would include incriminating information in a damn email?

I still don't understand these people, who in this day and age don't know better than to use email and text messages to send sensitive or compromising information and photos. Maybe if you're fifteen years old, but you'd think worldly, grown adults would have more sense. It is like they ask to get caught.

Then we have insurrectionists posting their acts of treason on social media! Idiocy seems to be highly contagious.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
38. If your hands are clean, Tuck, why don't you release the email yourself?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

Instead of instantly trying to discredit....the NSA (!) of all things!

I'm sure there are a million people out there willing to ignore whatever treachery is contained in that email since Carlson has so effortlessly painted the NSA as the villain, yet they would be riveted and revolting if that email came from, say, Hunter Biden.

Take a taste of your own medicine, you hack. The pendulum is beginning to swing the other way.

Traildogbob

(8,739 posts)
42. I hope
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jul 2021

Whatever criminal shit sticks to him, it destroys his ass, sends him to the O’Reilly free range pastures of ex Fox shits holes, and he goes through Swanson inheritance so fast, he can only afford to eat Swanson meals. But not a microwave to heat em. With paper forks and straws.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
43. I'm opposed to the death penalty
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jul 2021

So I think this may actually violate Tucker's 8th amendment rights. LOL!!

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
69. You are too kind with the paper forks and straws
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:22 PM
Jul 2021

I want him to eat Swanson slop on all fours out of a bowl.

tblue37

(65,353 posts)
44. He's also squawking that he has every right to email anyone he wants to email, even if
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

that person is a target of an NSA investigation.

Yep. They've got something on Tucker.

😁

marble falls

(57,082 posts)
49. He thinks too highly of himself not to have done something really stupid. He'll cop a plea ...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jul 2021

... and roll on his pal, Matty.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
47. Several things we can be sure of: 1. This has nothing to do with the NSA. They don't do enforcement.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

2. TC is facing down something he KNOWS will be career ending if not incarcerating.

3. Nothing he has mentioned publicly is true...with the caveat that it may involve email he sent or received.

TC is like the rest of the lying liars who lie for a living in that everything he says is intended to obscure truth and deflect focus away from him. He so thoroughly enjoys manipulating other people's perception that he cannot deal with the real anymore. Like TFG he's gotten where he is by using propaganda to empower himself and abuse and confuse others.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
52. No, it seems pretty clear
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jul 2021

That this involves some emails sent to someone who was under surveillance by the NSA. This could include a variety of people residing outside the USA.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
57. So far as I can see it is only TC who claims the NSA released his email.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jul 2021

He is the only person who mentions NSA so far.
How would he know that they did that?

I have no reason at all to believe TC on any of this. If and when the alleged email becomes public, assuming the copy we see is accurate, then we might have some basis to consider how it became so. Who released it and why are questions to ask at that point.

I don't doubt that NSA could read his email and might chose to do so under circumstances involving a foreign person or entity. It just makes no sense that they would leak it in the way he has alleged. They aren't in enforcement and they don't have an axe to grind with TC as far as we know. If they were interested in hurting him in some way there are far more effective methods available to them.

If they are monitoring someone else why would they blow that by releasing or leaking the alleged email? Intelligence work isn't about enforcement. It is about quietly finding out who is doing what and then using that information to gain an advantage, perhaps by manipulating the people involved.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
50. This part from the article is really weird.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021
There was one other person who knew I sent that e-mail, and it was my executive producer Justin Wells, that’s it, and I didn’t mention it to anybody else, including my wife. There is no possibility that anyone else could have known then again yesterday I go if the a call before air like 7:15, from a journalist I know and like, not many left, but do I like this person he repeated back to me he got it, because the NSA leaked it, so, yes, entirely real.”


First off why would he be so sure the recipient wasn't hacked, or shared it? Secondly, why would his executive producer know?

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
55. Why would his Executive Producer Know?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jul 2021

Simple deduction would indicate the idiots were lining something up for his show. Given how shaken he is by this, it would seem to be someone under criminal investigation by our Federal Government. If the NSA picked this up, then the person resides outside of the USA. If he made up the bit about the NSA, then they are domestic. Use your imagination.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
56. I remember a while back when he had Matt Gaetz on...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 02:51 PM
Jul 2021
"I'm not the only person on screen right now who has been falsely accused of a terrible sex act. You were accused of something you did not do" -- Matt Gaetz to Tucker Carlson"

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Hekate

(90,683 posts)
58. Aside from the fact that I can't stand him, he sounds absolutely frantic...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jul 2021

Something sure pressed his panic button.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
62. Hey you stupid Tucker? Want to know how to stop damaging news about you?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jul 2021

A good way to keep damaging news about you from surfacing is to not do illegal or terrible things.

Or at the very least to not brag about such things on email and social media.

I know it is a difficult thing to comprehend you stupid Tuck.

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