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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:09 PM Jul 2021

So, McCarthy now wants to appoint 5 Republicans to the January 6th Committee who will

Last edited Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)

create a "counter-narrative" to the Committee's findings. I have one simple and very obvious question.

How in hell do you know you will need to "counter" what the Committee uncovers and reports?

By taking that approach IN ADVANCE, are you not conceding that the unvarnished truth will tarnish your party---probably for decades?

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So, McCarthy now wants to appoint 5 Republicans to the January 6th Committee who will (Original Post) Atticus Jul 2021 OP
On one side is truth. C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #1
On one side are facts. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #10
An alternate facts universe! lunatica Jul 2021 #44
The media better call it "propaganda"... zaj Jul 2021 #36
The TRUTH has no party affiliation. onecaliberal Jul 2021 #2
Tell him to kacekwl Jul 2021 #3
THE GREAT " FUCK NO" TO THAT BRAIN DEAD CLOWN" monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #4
I am so tired Snackshack Jul 2021 #5
Wait, didn't he already turn down the opportunity to participate? FakeNoose Jul 2021 #6
How he knows he will need to 'counter' what Dems report is not the point. He's been ordered ancianita Jul 2021 #7
Need to call a spade Mopar151 Jul 2021 #8
They had their chance and they told us to shove it. hadEnuf Jul 2021 #9
The Speaker has the right t o refuse. Historic NY Jul 2021 #11
Good.. Why bring the BIG LIE in! Cha Jul 2021 #37
Pelosi should say "wow! it really was antifa! and what's your counternarrative, fuck face?" Takket Jul 2021 #12
Didn't the House approve this commission like a week ago? thenelm1 Jul 2021 #13
Nice. CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #33
What the hell are you talking about? thenelm1 Jul 2021 #46
Why don't you complain more about the dems. CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #50
Nope. MontanaMama Jul 2021 #14
My thoughts too, nt Unwind Your Mind Jul 2021 #18
All McCarthy can do BGBD Jul 2021 #15
The Democrats need to tell him this committee is not the place for alternative facts. Efilroft Sul Jul 2021 #16
No Harm, No Foul? DallasNE Jul 2021 #17
let us all now relish his irrelevance... bringthePaine Jul 2021 #19
Yeah! Let's! lunatica Jul 2021 #45
Play hardball. Gym Jordan? No. Devin'moo Cow No. MTG? No. speak easy Jul 2021 #20
In Pelosi I Trust. EVERYONE here at DU should too. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #21
Tarnished reputation doesn't matter a whit. Kablooie Jul 2021 #22
let them line up their lies, mopinko Jul 2021 #23
No Rebl2 Jul 2021 #24
Any committee in Congress will end up like this nowadays. It's not like the Speaker appointed Hoyt Jul 2021 #25
"Why is the Committee ignoring reports that Nancy Pelosi hired struggle4progress Jul 2021 #26
Cartoon: Kevin's slim pickins By Clay Jones -July 8, 2021 9:10 AM turbinetree Jul 2021 #27
Good point. If the truth is what you are after, there should be no "counter-narrative". Ohioboy Jul 2021 #28
He's a fact witness. Grasswire2 Jul 2021 #29
My new favorite saying Roy Rolling Jul 2021 #30
Too late, asshole. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #31
There is another side to everything for pukes. pwb Jul 2021 #32
Stalling and Obstruction is the ONLY thing they know. flying_wahini Jul 2021 #34
Fine. The Democrats can show PROOF; oldsoftie Jul 2021 #35
Too late Fuckhead. Pelosi has the final say on who's on the committee. SunSeeker Jul 2021 #38
Agree! Catherine Vincent Jul 2021 #39
So they're going to sabotage this thing. Great. Initech Jul 2021 #40
Hey, it workrd for them in the impeachments. Fortunately, Speaker Pelosi gets to OK his choices. marble falls Jul 2021 #41
"counter-narrative"? Well that is to be expected I guess especially when a number of Republican cstanleytech Jul 2021 #42
McCarthy is an embarrassment to our country. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #43
Does anyone have a link to this? sakabatou Jul 2021 #47
Third paragraph here: Atticus Jul 2021 #48
Thanks sakabatou Jul 2021 #49
Tell McCrusty the answer is no scrabblequeen40 Jul 2021 #51

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
1. On one side is truth.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jul 2021

And the other, gop counter narrative.
These corrupt republicans can get f*cked.

10. On one side are facts.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:15 PM
Jul 2021

The Democrats live in a fact-based universe. The Republicans live in a fantasy universe of denial and hatred. One of these things is not like the other, and we ignore it at our peril.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
3. Tell him to
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jul 2021

Pound sand. They had a chance to vote on having a commission and said NO, not needed. See ya.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
6. Wait, didn't he already turn down the opportunity to participate?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jul 2021

I'm certain that he was already invited, and he refused. That ship has sailed, Mr. McCarthy.



ancianita

(36,048 posts)
7. How he knows he will need to 'counter' what Dems report is not the point. He's been ordered
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jul 2021

to fight the fact-based narrative with the alt-fact narrative. It's pretty consistent with all power theater -- make stuff up, shred structured norms of truth finding (commissions), truth telling (history), do nothing to make government a good, moral or potent force, and make people believe what you want them to believe, -- you'll be rich as you maintain the system that keeps your dark money owners hidden offstage.

Pelosi should refuse and say she's proceeded without him, that he's too little, too late.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
8. Need to call a spade
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jul 2021

A fucking shovel! A "counter narrative" is a fancy way to say Big Fat Stinky Lies, carefully painted to resemble truth, from a distance, in dim light.

When the committee announces its findings, a point by point refutation of the "alternate facts" should be appended.

hadEnuf

(2,189 posts)
9. They had their chance and they told us to shove it.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:08 PM
Jul 2021

Screw them. NO Repiglicans on the select committee. FO

thenelm1

(854 posts)
13. Didn't the House approve this commission like a week ago?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:30 PM
Jul 2021

So why haven't they begun their work already? Are they actually waiting for McCarthy to do his thing??

WHY?? Get on with it already. Enough with the bloody dithering. Why are you waiting for this unctuous fool for anything? All he's gonna do is delay, dither and whatever. Enough with being polite - just do it. Do these guys think for a moment that McCarthy and his band of fools wouldn't leave them in the dust if the shoe were on the other foot?? Haven't our guys learned a damned thing over the last few years as to how their opposition will eff them over in a heartbeat given the chance??? Stop playing nice already. Good Lord.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
46. What the hell are you talking about?
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jul 2021

Biden was sworn into office almost 7 months ago. Enough with the Dems playing nice and all this collegial malarkey already with these Repub jerks. The Repubs had every opportunity to join in on a Congressional Commission and fought it tooth and nail, ultimately, and predictably, all voting no (with a very few exceptions).

Now lil' Kevin is having second thoughts? Playing nice is only going to come back and bite the Dems in the butt while the Repubs will play every dirty trick in book to delay, obfuscate and muddy the waters. Get on with it already. Slow rolling this thing because it might interfere with your summer break should not be an option. The beginnings of the 2022 election cycle are already beginning.

The Dems should have a built-in advantage in this investigation, but the longer they allow the Repubs to string this along only serves to diminish whatever advantage they might have. To me, this is one of those rare moments where the Dems literally have a golden opportunity to hammer home and expose the perfidy and corruption of the Repubs to the electorate. They should be leaping at this no holds barred. Enough with the piddling and diddling. Screw the predictable whingeing from the opposition. And if you think for a second that if the shoe was on the other foot this isn't exactly what the Repubs would do? I know of this nice bridge that is for sale.

(And bigger picture? The Repubs have this idea that they, the minority party, and their screwing around with the states election laws, have this whole one-party rule thing in the bag. Blowing up, or away, any Jan. 6 investigation would be yet another brick in their wall of plausibility. And it should be said that this ain't their first attempt.)

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
15. All McCarthy can do
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:33 PM
Jul 2021

is offer suggestions. Pelosi has final say...and therefor complete control...over who is on this committee.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
17. No Harm, No Foul?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jul 2021

Trump's words, like "fight like hell" are a harmless figure of speech to vocally protest, ignoring what the rioters said those works meant to them claiming you have to give equal weight to both sides. But McCarthy overlooks that Cheney might have something to say about what goes into the minority report. While not the Chair, she might be the most powerful member of the committee.

speak easy

(9,244 posts)
20. Play hardball. Gym Jordan? No. Devin'moo Cow No. MTG? No.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jul 2021

Nominate serious players , or Dems will nominate halfway sane GOP'ers 4 u.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
22. Tarnished reputation doesn't matter a whit.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:57 PM
Jul 2021

They will still win Republican votes and that's all that matters.
In red States where they lose they will count on the state government to cancel Democratic votes and install a Republican.

All that matters is winning and it doesn't rely on hearts and minds anymore. It's only about keeping the cult scared and angry.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. Any committee in Congress will end up like this nowadays. It's not like the Speaker appointed
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:55 AM
Jul 2021

totally unbiased members.

I think most people will recognize the truth, if they haven't already by looking at the videos and hearing GOPers BS.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
26. "Why is the Committee ignoring reports that Nancy Pelosi hired
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:57 AM
Jul 2021

a secret Italian agency to infilitrate Trump's rally with satellite-controlled robotic zombies?"

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
28. Good point. If the truth is what you are after, there should be no "counter-narrative".
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jul 2021

In fact, there should be no "narrative" at all, just the truth. McCarthy is big on "narratives", but he can't keep them straight. First, he claimed Trump caused the riot; then he got his spanking in Mar- A- Lago and came back with a different story. He needs to be under oath to find out what's really going on.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
29. He's a fact witness.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jul 2021

And he's terrified of being compelled to testify under oath to this commission.

And so he wants an ear in the room.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
30. My new favorite saying
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jul 2021

Tell McCarthy, “Sure, have them show up in the meeting room at fuck you o’clock and we’ll consider it”.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. Too late, asshole.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 03:26 PM
Jul 2021

You wanted Nancy to select a committee of Dems and never-Trumpers. You got one. Now, fuck off.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
38. Too late Fuckhead. Pelosi has the final say on who's on the committee.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jul 2021

You blew your chance when you refused to vote for an investigation.

Catherine Vincent

(34,489 posts)
39. Agree!
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jul 2021

I don't know why this jerk should have authority to appoint anyone being that he and his ilk voted down on the investigation.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
42. "counter-narrative"? Well that is to be expected I guess especially when a number of Republican
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jul 2021

politicians could face possible criminal investigations and indictments for there actions before and during it.

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