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Dersh claims TFG's suits against Google and the other tech companies are about the 1st amendment (Original Post) Peppertoo Jul 2021 OP
Trump is a brainworm. dchill Jul 2021 #1
And, no doubt, Dersh will think it will lead to a happy ending--one with underpants on. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #13
Pretty sure that if TFG wants to buy himself a printing press and create pamphlets containing Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #2
You don't have the right to coordinate terrorist attacks on a tech company's platform. ecstatic Jul 2021 #3
He lost me at: SIMPSON. UTUSN Jul 2021 #4
There is no state actor LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #5
Heheh... uriel1972 Jul 2021 #7
Inna nutshell. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #8
And give this a read... WarGamer Jul 2021 #11
Luckily no court has adopted this position LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #12
thanks for reading, I appreciate it! WarGamer Jul 2021 #15
You made me relive my days on law review LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #18
Boo yah, Tribe tellin' it like it is. oasis Jul 2021 #16
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #19
Exactly. Dersh knows this. Peppertoo Jul 2021 #21
I thought the 1st only applied to government... uriel1972 Jul 2021 #6
Any person trump associates with, their brains turn to mush JohnSJ Jul 2021 #9
Can you quote the First Amendment, Mr. Dershowitz? gratuitous Jul 2021 #10
Captain Underpants claims a lot of things, including that he left his drawers on when getting RockRaven Jul 2021 #14
This is why Trump hates section 230. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #17
Tribe is a truth teller, Dersh is a friend of Epstein... RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #20
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Pretty sure that if TFG wants to buy himself a printing press and create pamphlets containing
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jul 2021

the same insane ramblings he'd otherwise shit onto Twitter, and then have people hand them out at bus stops and on street corners, he almost certainly won't be imprisoned by any government entity.

E.G. the rights enshrined by the 1A are covered, and intact.

ecstatic

(32,638 posts)
3. You don't have the right to coordinate terrorist attacks on a tech company's platform.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jul 2021

This is just another disgusting grift. The idiots who still believe tfg will open their wallets and probably get duped into a recurring monthly donation.

WarGamer

(12,301 posts)
11. And give this a read...
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jul 2021

The author has done more than draw a cartoon.

It's not so simple, LMPV...

https://www.lawfareblog.com/are-facebook-and-google-state-actors

Thus even if litigants and judges have been slow to see it, and even if the implications are dramatic, there is a strong argument under existing doctrine that Google and Facebook are state actors when they block “objectionable” content. Immunity plus pressure has to equal state action. The real question is not whether the Constitution applies to these mega-platforms’ content moderation policies. It’s what rules the Constitution requires. In a second post, I’ll turn to that issue.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,832 posts)
12. Luckily no court has adopted this position
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jul 2021

This was an amusing paper from a law professor but so far no court had come close to adopting this position in the real world. I doubt that this is the case where a court would consider adopting this amusing theory.

In the real world this is called secondary authority that a court can ignore. I doubt that this theory could get published in a good law review. I remember reviewing amusing theories that were not backed with any real authority and rejecting these articles. The one case cited supporting this theory is a stretch that I doubt that any court would follow. Law professors like amusing theories but these theories are meaningless unless they are adopted by a court and affirmed on appeal.

I found this theory amusing and this amusing theory reminds why I do not miss being on law review

BTW, I trust Tribe (I still have a copy of his treatise from law school)


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WarGamer

(12,301 posts)
15. thanks for reading, I appreciate it!
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:40 AM
Jul 2021

Sometimes I fear that people don't read really good links that provoke thought.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,832 posts)
18. You made me relive my days on law review
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jul 2021

That was a long time ago. Again I still have a fairly early draft of Tribe’s treatise that my kids laughed at

JohnSJ

(92,055 posts)
9. Any person trump associates with, their brains turn to mush
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jul 2021

What this demonstrates is that Dershowitz was always a trumper


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Can you quote the First Amendment, Mr. Dershowitz?
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jul 2021

"Of course! 'Congress shall make no law'--"

Imma stop you right there; how is Congress involved in running Google and Facebook, and what law did Congress make that abridged anyone's right to free speech?

RockRaven

(14,872 posts)
14. Captain Underpants claims a lot of things, including that he left his drawers on when getting
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:34 AM
Jul 2021

a "massage" from Epstein's "staff."

At this point, I don't think Captain Underpants can make a claim that anyone should spend any time seriously considering. Just move along, there's nothing useful to be heard if he is the one speaking.

Renew Deal

(81,839 posts)
17. This is why Trump hates section 230.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:46 AM
Jul 2021

It can be and was used to moderate him. I believe there’s some willingness to take on Section 230 in the Supreme Court. But I don’t think Trumps argument stands a chance because you can just declare companies government entities.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,661 posts)
20. Tribe is a truth teller, Dersh is a friend of Epstein...
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 02:33 AM
Jul 2021

Hey Alan when you come clean under oath about what you know and did with Epstein, then and only then, can you come back and talk about law !!!

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