Civil unrest is a real possibility

[angrychair]

So, I'll be honest here: we really want things to be better. To be normal.

They just are not.

Republicans are drifting into more and more extreme behavior and language.

The delta variant is going to push these Republican-led states to the edge. Tens of thousands more will die by this winter hundreds of thousands hospitalized.

Voting laws and the outcome of the 2022 election are uncertain and will almost certainly face endless challenges from the right.

I genuinely worry that we are far closer to a tipping point in this nation than some may realize.

Having a positive outlook is fine but also realize that there is significant effort by many in the republican party, including the previous president, that would happily destabilize this nation if they thought it played to their advantage.

[KT2000]

1. Agree

When I talk to RW relatives they always steer to their RW beliefs such as, I have guns so I can fight back if the government wants to take them. I have guns so I can defend myself against intruders. When I ask why they spend so much time fantasizing about such things they have no answer.

Point being - many more people than we realize have been brainwashed to find glory fighting with their weapons for reasons they don't even know. Most of the people at 1/6 never saw each other in person, just on the internet, and look what they did.

[Ohioboy]

4. People make enemies where there are no enemies sometimes

It keeps them on edge for no reason. They think things like government healthcare are going to take away their freedom. They think Critical Race Theory is being taught to kindergartners. They think Covid-19 was a plot. It goes on and on unchecked.

[misanthrope]

14. You can't kill COVID with a firearm

Just sayin'

[KT2000]

39. but some would like to

shoot people who wear masks - that is the warped mindset we are dealing with.

[littlemissmartypants]

22. Violence is one of the major tenets of fascism. nt

[wnylib]

26. Absolutely true. They are not just

interested in destabilizing the country. They are intent on taking it over and overthrowing current elected officials who don't fit their agenda. By overthrow, I mean by force if elections don't go in their favor.

I think we will see the start of this in the 2022 midterms.


EDIT TO ADD: Remember what they did when Obama got tge Affordable Care Act passed. Death threats and rocks and bricks thrown into the windows of legislators who voted for it.

[KentuckyWoman]

43. Christian persecution complex

Nearly everyone in my sphere that thinks like this is also of the evangelical christian variety. Either by upbringing or current practice, or both. There's currently this bizarre mix of extreme patriotism, racism, religion all warped into something that makes absolutely no sense. Republicans are on the side of Jesus, and Democrats are on the side of Satan. White is good, black is bad. And somehow God can't defend himself and needs literal Christian soldiers to grab their guns and kill all the Democrats, halleluia amen.

Killing all the Muslims didn't work out so they found a new boogie man.

And yes, I know it's the absolutely most ridiculous pile of don't make any sense anyone ever uttered, but if you know this type, you'll know exactly what I mean.

[Ohioboy]

2. I know what you mean

[luckone]

3. I'll be honest too I'm afraid we are not only going to lose democracy but a hold on reality too

RW on school boards their fantasy curriculum RW media pushing for cameras on the classroom so teachers do use words like inequality or oppression . If the teacher protests they suspect abuse or pedophilia is the reason . Actually protest was one of the words to remove also Suspect science where teachers can’t comment Who will be eager to teach ? The ones that spread the lies .
Of course I have hope but have been getting bad vibes lately that it’s not just democracy we could be losing but our idea of reality
What’s in their heads?

[Ohioboy]

9. Yep, look how much has happened because of lies

Without actual proof, just the words of TFG, people stormed the Capitol.

Back in the day they burned people as witches without proof as well.

[Bettie]

5. I'm at the point where

if there is a sudden die-off of people who are too f-ing stupid to get vaccinated...I care less than I would have previously.

It seems that the MAGAt years have left me with much less feeling of common humanity with a certain sector of our society. I just don't care what happens to them. I don't actively wish them harm, but I do wish them the consequences of their choices.

My family is vaccinated, we take precautions to avoid getting sick or spreading any germs we have to others.

[SoCalDavidS]

8. I Agree With You nt

[Crunchy Frog]

12. Where I'm at in my thinking:

We're in a low grade civil war, and some people are the enemy.

I'm not happy or proud that my mind has started working that way, but it's become my new reality.

[Initech]

16. Oh yeah we're definitely at a tipping point.

And Chump and his goons have pushed the country overboard. We may not get back to having a "normal" anytime soon.

[Ferrets are Cool]

18. Bravo!!

[onetexan]

36. I'm there w ya

[Binkie The Clown]

6. And increasing pressure from climate change won't help things a bit. nt

[JackSabbath]

19. This is the monster under the bed.

And it's real.

[SoCalDavidS]

7. I Told Myself I Wouldn't Pursue A Move To Another Country While My Parents Are Alive

They are in their 80's, and in relatively good health.

I hope that I still have the opportunity when the time is right, and it's not too late.

[smirkymonkey]

10. K&R

[Crunchy Frog]

11. Other countries have gone completely over the edge. Many times, and within living memory.

It's the height of magical thinking, or belief in American exceptionalism to think that such things can't happen here.

I worry about total societal breakdown, and the possibility of unspeakable violence happening here. Just like has happened in so many other places.

[wnylib]

27. So do I.

[misanthrope]

34. "Unspeakable violence"

is already part of American history. We've seen mobs wipe out entire towns simply due to bigotry. We've watched genocide against First Nations' people. We've divvied up and killed more than half a million of our own countrymen in organized bloodshed. We've seen crowds turn out just to gawk at lynchings as entertainment.

Look at the amount of firearms loose in our society. Violence is part of who we are.

[Crunchy Frog]

37. I understand. In the past it's largely impacted marginalized groups of people

in such a way that the majority could ignore it and pretend everything was "normal". I have a sense that will not be the case this time, for better or worse.

We have enough firearms loose in our society to keep a civil war going for decades.

[stillcool]

13. I've got a positive outlook

that whatever happens will eventually be better than it is now. Perhaps the dissolution of the United States would be a good thing. In the meantime, life will go on, or it won't. Nothing I can do about any of it. To me, this country is like some carnival experience. Eerily bizarre to scary, but then the really scary can be really funny, and nothing can be believed. I think my white flag is flying.

[Elessar Zappa]

15. All we can do is try our best

to make sure the good guys win. I won’t lose sleep over the thought of unrest or civil breakdown. If it happens, it happens and I’ll know I did all I could to prevent it.

[wnylib]

28. It might be prudent to think about

how you will look after yourself and yours if it does happen. If it happens, there will be a new reality and a need to adjust to it.

[plimsoll]

17. It must b asked. I why do they hate America?

Eom

[bucolic_frolic]

20. If they did succeed, immorality would still have to be sold to the history books

Never a good bet, that one.

[alfredo]

21. Let them try for the Darwin Award.

The Shock Doctrine
(1) The strategy by the world's economic elites of imposing an extremely neoliberal economic regime on communities they control, using some form of shock: a natural disaster, a coup d'etat, a war, a financial crisis, etc. Once the community has been crippled by this first shock, the economic "reforms" are imposed suddenly, creating a secondary blow. Then, as the community begins to recover and fight back, the authorities use torture and police brutality to (literally) shock the community a third time.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Shock%20Doctrine

[flying_wahini]

23. As long as Faux news continues to whip them up into a frenzy they will continue.

As I understand it, Faux news keeps pushing for an armed insurrection.
They talk as if it is unavoidable.
When the unvaccinated start dying by the thousands, it will be harder
and harder for them to deny. It is allegiance to Trump they keeps them
Unvaccinated.
When they start seeing how they were deceived it MAY help them decide
they are on the wrong side.

I’m thinking it will take some wind out of their sails.

[wnylib]

29. At least it will diminish the numbers of

available insurrectionists.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

24. Civil unrest is a real possibility...

Count on it. Prepare for it.

Keep your head on a swivel.


GOTV!!!

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

25. The US Military should reassign as many of its anti-vax

TFG supporters as possible to overseas posts. The majority of TFG supporters are not loyal to the Constitution, President Biden, or the US government.

Reassigning them out of our country makes them no threat to national security in the event of widespread violent insurrection. It would make our loyal soldiers, and US civilians, that much safer.

How can we trust them to not shoot loyal Americans in the back if it becomes necessary for Martial Law to be declared because of widespread violent insurrection by TFG supporters, if military intervention becomes necessary?

How can we trust any of them? Even the majority of Republicans in the House and Senate have proven that their loyalties are to TFG, and not the Constitution, our President, or our country.

We should take legal preventive measures to keep them from overthrowing our government wherever and whenever possible. They are all an immediate threat and clear and present danger to our national security.

[wnylib]

30. I've been wondering about

the same thing. Our returning forces from Afghanistan might go either way if civil unrest develops.

[brooklynite]

32. And your evidence of that would be...?

[LanternWaste]

35. Precisely the same evidence you provided when you accused

Hamas of blowing up stored ammonium nitrate in Syria would be my guess.

[brooklynite]

31. And when the Republicans win back the White House at some point, they can ship out all the Dems?

Unless you have evidence that a member of the military has violated the UCMJ (in which case you penalize or discharge them), you don't "punish" punish them for thinking differently than you do.

[MLAA]

33. Add climate impact, water shortages to the toxic stew being stirred by their fear and

Ignorance and holy shit.

[Corgigal]

38. Michael Cohen,

Yeah I know , said on his podcast, they want to kill me and they want to kill you. It was the first time I ever heard it said out loud. Scary thought.

Hotel Rwanda.

[roamer65]

40. 🦠

Hold my beer.

You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.

Your ever loving virus,

SARS-CoV -2.

[ironman99]

41. Gunzzzz

I have had co-workers ask me why I don't have a gun. My reply is simple, I have no desire to kill anything.

When they ask what do I mean, I respond with what is the primary purpose of a firearm. Then I get the usual BS respond of self-defense. My answer is NO, that is a byproduct. Try again. Since they have obviously not thought about it, I tell them that the primary purpose of a firearm is to kill something, they are incredulous for some reason.

When I explain that guns have one purpose and that is to kill something, and everything else is a by product of that purpose, they still don't get it. What about target shooting? Improves your aim so that you can kill something. What about self defense? If someone things you can kill them with your gun, they may not attack you......

Until the ammosexuals accept the fact that their love affair with the firearm is its ability to kill, we will get nowhere.

[NickB79]

42. I don't think you'll get much support even here

By saying that killing in self defense isn't acceptable, regardless of the weapon used.

Having no desire to kill isn't the same as having no desire to fight for your life if need be.