White Evangelicals See Power Diminishing

[applegrove]

White Evangelicals See Power Diminishing

July 8, 2021 at 3:55 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 51 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/07/08/white-evangelicals-see-power-diminishing/

"SNIP......

Aaron Blake: “Even within the GOP, White evangelicals are on the decline: White evangelicals have gone from 37% of the GOP in 2006 to 29% in 2020.”

“Just as important is the age disparity. While 22% of Americans 65 and over are White evangelicals, the number is just 7% for those between 18 and 29 years of age.”

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[PortTack]

1. Oh boy..made my day with this post...the wildly shrinking EVILGELICALS and gqp!!

[Runningdawg]

2. Rabid dogs backed into a corner....

[zuul]

3. Thank DOG!!!

I do worry about those "quiver-full" types though.

I know a young quiver-full couple whose plan is to crank out a new kid every 2 years or less, even though they can't afford the children they have. All their kids will be home-schooled. They don't believe in vaccinations, even though the father works as an x-ray tech in a hospital.

They think vaccinations are the cause of autism. Their oldest child (6 yo) is on the spectrum and she has never been vaccinated for anything. Seems pretty clear that it wasn't caused by a vaccine.

Both parents and 2 of the 4 kids are now sick with weird coughing and fever. They're waiting on test results to see if it's COVID.

[paleotn]

4. Thank God.

[cilla4progress]

5. Finally

some good news!

[PJMcK]

6. No brainer (n/t)

[Mickju]

7. This is encouraging.

Many of my relatives are white evangelical Republicans. It makes me sick.

[BComplex]

10. Me, too, Mickju. And they are all sociopaths.

The "white evangelicals" in my family are all trump supporters, and every single one of them believes the whole QAnon fairy tale.

[Mickju]

11. Mine are Trump supporters also.

How do they call themselves Christians? It is incomprehensible to me. I'm not a Christian, but I think Jesus would not approve of these "Christians"

[Effete Snob]

18. To be fair....

Jesus did some odd things, which kind of get overlooked.

He destroyed a fig tree because he wanted figs and it didn't have any:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021%3A18-22&version=NIV

He cast demons into some dude's pigs, and drowned them:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%205%3A1-20%2CLuke%208%3A26-39&version=NIV

He comes into town, tells some woman to get him water, and calls her a slut:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%204&version=NIV

He condemned all kinds of people for all kinds of things, but people kind of make of him what they will. You don't want to let him around your animals or crops, though.

Christians have been around a lot longer than democratic governments. They get along fine with monarchs, dictators, etc., and with profoundly unjust societies. Christianity thrived for centuries in those environments.

The "Jesus the Friendly Hippie" thing is kind of the outlier over the larger course and history of Christianity. He was a blood sacrifice for a God of infinite vengeance.

[Mariana]

22. You know, I haven't yet heard the 1/6 insurrection

compared to Jesus's so-called cleansing of the Temple. As the story goes, he considered the people who were conducting sanctioned activities in the Temple grounds to be committing theft and defiling the place. He flew into a self-righteous rage, constructed a weapon, attacked the people who offended him and ran them out, and then he vandalized the place. Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it?

I don't hang out with Evangelical Christians though, so maybe they are saying these things are pretty much the same.

[Effete Snob]

24. Mythical figures are pretty malleable

There’s a “Christian” justification for just about anything you want.

[applegrove]

26. Jesus taugh mankind to love one another. For his time he was brilliant

and very kind. It allowed people to live together in increasingly complex societies. It is the religious who have been co-opted by politicians and kings and rich people who are to blame for its demise.

[Effete Snob]

28. How did the Incans and Mayans manage without him?

The Mongol Empire remains the largest civilization which ever existed.



The notion that “complex societies” were made possible by Jesus is outstandingly racist. There have been many complex societies that have done just fine without him.

How DID the Chinese manage for centuries?

The Roman Empire was doing fine without Jesus, and only finally collapsed after becoming officially Christian.

Although for long term complexity and stability, it is tough to beat Japan



Christians rejected humanism and classical knowledge and plunged Europe into the stagnant dark ages, while cultures elsewhere flourished.

Luke 14:26
“If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.”

[applegrove]

29. They had their own religions. And their own complex societies. Aztec's

had complex society and still sacrificed people which christians stopped as a regular practice (inquitions and witch hunts aside). I meant in no way to say Jesus was anything but far superior to what came before him in his own neck of the woods.

[Effete Snob]

30. "Inquisitions and witch hunts aside"?

But that’s the point.

Saying “if we ignore the ritualized organized cruelty in which Christians engaged for centuries, their enslavement and genocide against Central and South Americans had an upside” is a little odd.

The type of violent supremacy to which Evangelicals are prone is more consistent with the larger historical picture than Hippie Jesus.

I think I’d rather be stabbed to death than burned at the stake, or the various other delights devised to promote the faith.

[hunter]

8. Good.

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[dchill]

9. I love it.

[padfun]

12. Thank the seven Gods!

They should all get credit.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. Not. Fast. Enough. nt

[Sibelius Fan]

14. Evangelicals now, the rest of religious belief in due time.

[bahboo]

15. good...now die off and be gone with you....

[Hortensis]

16. Yes, but that, along with other losses predicted and watched all along,

are the reason the traitors at the head of the "white man's party" decided to overset democracy to take power and keep it. That and the reason that diversifying to attract millions of non-white conservatives was unacceptable to them. It was discussed at length on all the talk shows, etc, but rejected.

Like in 2008-2009 when conservative "intellectual" Charles Krauthammer blew off the need to appeal to Hispanic (American!) voters, that being less vicious toward undocumented immigrants would be enough "outreach" to keep them from becoming active, ignoring that many were hostile to immigrants; and that the GOP shouldn't change at all to bring black conservative voters into the conservative party because "we already have a liberal party." Total rejection.

But, yes, demographic change will kill them if they don't kill democracy first.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

17. That's good news for democracy.

Abandon hate all ye who enter here.

[Under The Radar]

19. Religion has always been aligned with authoritarianism

And used its influence to suppress women and segregated minorities. They have created a business model to drain the emotionally vulnerable of their financial security. It just took a while for us to catch on.

[BComplex]

21. Bingo! You nailed it.

[Effete Snob]

31. Boom

[Hekate]

20. Can't happen fast enough. I long for the days when fundies stayed out of worldly politics...

…and stayed focused on their own lives and the everafter.

ETA: It’s a lot easier for me to be tolerant and accepting of them as fellow humans when they stay out of my face — and my uterus.

[Lars39]

23. Heh...found out a family member is in a SB church band

They’ve been going around to “all the churches that are about to fold” to drum up interest.
All I could do to keep the grin off my face.

[Grasswire2]

25. Let's see. GOP is 25 percent of the electorate...

....and just 29 percent of the GOP are evangelicals.

So that makes evangelicals just over 8 percent of the electorate now!

Is that right?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

34. Doesn't seem right at all.

In the last two Presidential elections, CNN exit polls indicated that both Biden and Clinton would've won the "white vote" too if none of the white evangelicals had voted.

For 2020:
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

67% of all voters were white, favoring Trump 58% to 41%.

28% of all voters identified as "White born-again or evangelical Christians", favoring Trump by 76% to 24%.

28/67 = 41.8% of all white voters identified as evangelicals.

The 2016 CNN exit polls were similar, and also indicated that white evangelicals were eager voters compared to other whites because estimates of their portion of the general population is much lower.



From 2007 to 2014, the percentage of evangelicals was estimated by Pew to be about 25% to 26% of the general population in the USA.
https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

Gallup has asked people: "Would you describe yourself as a "born-again" or evangelical Christian?"
In 2020, 34% answered yes.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1690/religion.aspx

[SWBTATTReg]

27. No surprise here. They lost any respect of their stance on anything when they continue to

support a Pu**y grabbing pedophile (our disgusting former pres. in name only). A supposedly christian organization/group, supporting such a disgusting person.

[Quixote1818]

32. This would only bother them if they are racist. They are not losing legitimate power

they are losing power to push minorities around. That is what bothers them.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

33. Good

I hope evilgelical churches go away forever.
As well as thier selfish grifter preachers.