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White Evangelicals See Power Diminishing
July 8, 2021 at 3:55 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 51 Comments
https://politicalwire.com/2021/07/08/white-evangelicals-see-power-diminishing/
"SNIP......
Aaron Blake: Even within the GOP, White evangelicals are on the decline: White evangelicals have gone from 37% of the GOP in 2006 to 29% in 2020.
Just as important is the age disparity. While 22% of Americans 65 and over are White evangelicals, the number is just 7% for those between 18 and 29 years of age.
......SNIP"
PortTack
(32,689 posts)Runningdawg
(4,509 posts)zuul
(14,624 posts)I do worry about those "quiver-full" types though.
I know a young quiver-full couple whose plan is to crank out a new kid every 2 years or less, even though they can't afford the children they have. All their kids will be home-schooled. They don't believe in vaccinations, even though the father works as an x-ray tech in a hospital.
They think vaccinations are the cause of autism. Their oldest child (6 yo) is on the spectrum and she has never been vaccinated for anything. Seems pretty clear that it wasn't caused by a vaccine.
Both parents and 2 of the 4 kids are now sick with weird coughing and fever. They're waiting on test results to see if it's COVID.
paleotn
(17,876 posts)cilla4progress
(24,712 posts)some good news!
PJMcK
(21,988 posts)Mickju
(1,796 posts)Many of my relatives are white evangelical Republicans. It makes me sick.
BComplex
(8,017 posts)The "white evangelicals" in my family are all trump supporters, and every single one of them believes the whole QAnon fairy tale.
Mickju
(1,796 posts)How do they call themselves Christians? It is incomprehensible to me. I'm not a Christian, but I think Jesus would not approve of these "Christians"
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Jesus did some odd things, which kind of get overlooked.
He destroyed a fig tree because he wanted figs and it didn't have any:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2021%3A18-22&version=NIV
He cast demons into some dude's pigs, and drowned them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%205%3A1-20%2CLuke%208%3A26-39&version=NIV
He comes into town, tells some woman to get him water, and calls her a slut:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%204&version=NIV
He condemned all kinds of people for all kinds of things, but people kind of make of him what they will. You don't want to let him around your animals or crops, though.
Christians have been around a lot longer than democratic governments. They get along fine with monarchs, dictators, etc., and with profoundly unjust societies. Christianity thrived for centuries in those environments.
The "Jesus the Friendly Hippie" thing is kind of the outlier over the larger course and history of Christianity. He was a blood sacrifice for a God of infinite vengeance.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)compared to Jesus's so-called cleansing of the Temple. As the story goes, he considered the people who were conducting sanctioned activities in the Temple grounds to be committing theft and defiling the place. He flew into a self-righteous rage, constructed a weapon, attacked the people who offended him and ran them out, and then he vandalized the place. Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it?
I don't hang out with Evangelical Christians though, so maybe they are saying these things are pretty much the same.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Theres a Christian justification for just about anything you want.
applegrove
(118,460 posts)and very kind. It allowed people to live together in increasingly complex societies. It is the religious who have been co-opted by politicians and kings and rich people who are to blame for its demise.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)The Mongol Empire remains the largest civilization which ever existed.
The notion that complex societies were made possible by Jesus is outstandingly racist. There have been many complex societies that have done just fine without him.
How DID the Chinese manage for centuries?
The Roman Empire was doing fine without Jesus, and only finally collapsed after becoming officially Christian.
Although for long term complexity and stability, it is tough to beat Japan
Christians rejected humanism and classical knowledge and plunged Europe into the stagnant dark ages, while cultures elsewhere flourished.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
applegrove
(118,460 posts)had complex society and still sacrificed people which christians stopped as a regular practice (inquitions and witch hunts aside). I meant in no way to say Jesus was anything but far superior to what came before him in his own neck of the woods.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)But thats the point.
Saying if we ignore the ritualized organized cruelty in which Christians engaged for centuries, their enslavement and genocide against Central and South Americans had an upside is a little odd.
The type of violent supremacy to which Evangelicals are prone is more consistent with the larger historical picture than Hippie Jesus.
I think Id rather be stabbed to death than burned at the stake, or the various other delights devised to promote the faith.
hunter
(38,301 posts).
dchill
(38,432 posts)padfun
(1,786 posts)They should all get credit.
Maru Kitteh
(28,313 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,392 posts)bahboo
(16,304 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are the reason the traitors at the head of the "white man's party" decided to overset democracy to take power and keep it. That and the reason that diversifying to attract millions of non-white conservatives was unacceptable to them. It was discussed at length on all the talk shows, etc, but rejected.
Like in 2008-2009 when conservative "intellectual" Charles Krauthammer blew off the need to appeal to Hispanic (American!) voters, that being less vicious toward undocumented immigrants would be enough "outreach" to keep them from becoming active, ignoring that many were hostile to immigrants; and that the GOP shouldn't change at all to bring black conservative voters into the conservative party because "we already have a liberal party." Total rejection.
But, yes, demographic change will kill them if they don't kill democracy first.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Abandon hate all ye who enter here.
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)And used its influence to suppress women and segregated minorities. They have created a business model to drain the emotionally vulnerable of their financial security. It just took a while for us to catch on.
BComplex
(8,017 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Hekate
(90,527 posts)
and stayed focused on their own lives and the everafter.
ETA: Its a lot easier for me to be tolerant and accepting of them as fellow humans when they stay out of my face and my uterus.
Lars39
(26,104 posts)Theyve been going around to all the churches that are about to fold to drum up interest.
All I could do to keep the grin off my face.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)....and just 29 percent of the GOP are evangelicals.
So that makes evangelicals just over 8 percent of the electorate now!
Is that right?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)In the last two Presidential elections, CNN exit polls indicated that both Biden and Clinton would've won the "white vote" too if none of the white evangelicals had voted.
For 2020:
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results
67% of all voters were white, favoring Trump 58% to 41%.
28% of all voters identified as "White born-again or evangelical Christians", favoring Trump by 76% to 24%.
28/67 = 41.8% of all white voters identified as evangelicals.
The 2016 CNN exit polls were similar, and also indicated that white evangelicals were eager voters compared to other whites because estimates of their portion of the general population is much lower.
From 2007 to 2014, the percentage of evangelicals was estimated by Pew to be about 25% to 26% of the general population in the USA.
https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/
Gallup has asked people: "Would you describe yourself as a "born-again" or evangelical Christian?"
In 2020, 34% answered yes.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1690/religion.aspx
SWBTATTReg
(22,059 posts)support a Pu**y grabbing pedophile (our disgusting former pres. in name only). A supposedly christian organization/group, supporting such a disgusting person.
Quixote1818
(28,918 posts)they are losing power to push minorities around. That is what bothers them.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)I hope evilgelical churches go away forever.
As well as thier selfish grifter preachers.