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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:54 AM Jul 2021

Republicans were caught on video thanking Manchin & Sinema for blocking Dem legislation.



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Republicans were caught on video thanking Manchin & Sinema for blocking Dem legislation. Let’s make this viral and make it clear we’re sick and tired of Manchin & Sinema’s obstruction. They’re only helping Republicans while not helping the American people.


7:35 AM · Jul 9, 2021
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Republicans were caught on video thanking Manchin & Sinema for blocking Dem legislation. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
They aren't doing it for free either Under The Radar Jul 2021 #1
+1 pandr32 Jul 2021 #6
+1 n/t area51 Jul 2021 #11
Whatever payoff they are receiving wnylib Jul 2021 #21
Damn, 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Jul 2021 #2
The link to this should be sent in emails to both Senators' offices DFW Jul 2021 #3
Yes, yes, yes, this a kennedy Jul 2021 #44
It doesn't matter if it will help the people of WV, that doc03 Jul 2021 #4
"Good dogs! Good dogs!" NBachers Jul 2021 #5
And making this viral is going to change things how? brooklynite Jul 2021 #7
Because they both need to be primaried. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #20
You know that neither of them are up for re-election, right? brooklynite Jul 2021 #22
Not in 2022, Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #23
I predict that you'll just LOVE the replacement in WV FBaggins Jul 2021 #28
I predict I won't give a fuck Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #29
You obviously don't now... why would we expect anything else? FBaggins Jul 2021 #30
Those seats have little or no meaning Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #34
Both have voted with Biden's position more than 15 other Democratic Senators.... George II Jul 2021 #41
And 50 Republican senators FBaggins Jul 2021 #48
"Other than giving us a majority"? FBaggins Jul 2021 #49
Yes, do you? n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #50
Hello? Those seats are why McTurtle isn't running the Senate right now! ShazzieB Jul 2021 #54
He's up for re-election in November 2022. George II Jul 2021 #37
Kelly is in 2022. He won a special election to serve the remainder of John McCain's term. George II Jul 2021 #42
Getting the truth out there is always worthwhile questionseverything Jul 2021 #53
DINOs NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #8
I don't buy it. Looks like a setup. There's nothing republicans would rather than for both of them.. George II Jul 2021 #9
If we couild get some meaningful voting rights legislation passed kirkuchiyo Jul 2021 #10
Mark Kelly won in Arizona IronLionZion Jul 2021 #12
We're very lucky to have Mark Kelly as a Democratic Senator. As good as he is to us, a big reason... George II Jul 2021 #16
Arizona is not West Virginia. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #18
Those aren't the only two seats in the Senate that Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #25
Because we've always done such a great job of winning those seats before.... BGBD Jul 2021 #36
Yes, every seat is sacred. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #39
You're not replacing Joe Manchin BGBD Jul 2021 #45
Wrong on every point. Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #52
If you don't think he'd be replaced with another Josh Hawley or someone just as bad... ShazzieB Jul 2021 #55
Rubio in Florida PsakiPswirli Jul 2021 #51
Kelly won in Arizona, didn't he? Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #35
Yes he did, under unusual circumstances. He ran in a special election to complete John McCain's.... George II Jul 2021 #43
Heaven forbid the People's will be done! lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #13
Disgusting. Nt jalan48 Jul 2021 #14
Sickening. nt SunSeeker Jul 2021 #15
Minority rights are more important than majority rights????????? KS Toronado Jul 2021 #17
Well, then they say Bettie Jul 2021 #33
Only if the minority is white male apparently. KPN Jul 2021 #38
The Constitution was written to let the MAJORITY govern, while protecting the minority. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #19
All of this was true more than 20 years ago. We're just KPN Jul 2021 #40
You heard it. Kill the filibuster. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #24
No one was caught; they are rubbing it in our faces. Politicub Jul 2021 #26
I hope Manchin and Sinema watch that video because they are making fun of them, they are mocking Escurumbele Jul 2021 #27
nice to see rick santorum found a new gig already since he is off cnn IcyPeas Jul 2021 #31
They should be so Cha Jul 2021 #32
This just burns me up. Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #46
Sinema and Manchin are heroes of the fascist revolution. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #47

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
21. Whatever payoff they are receiving
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jul 2021

should become a frontline news story blasted nationally on all media.

If there is kompromat, find out what it is and publicize it to free them from it.

DFW

(54,362 posts)
3. The link to this should be sent in emails to both Senators' offices
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 12:10 PM
Jul 2021

About 500,000 times. With a note asking: „just a loyal Democrat making sure whose side you are on. Thanks for confirming!“

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
20. Because they both need to be primaried.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 02:00 PM
Jul 2021

If we lose those seats, we will just have to take some from the republicans somewhere else. We're getting nowhere at all the way things are.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
29. I predict I won't give a fuck
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jul 2021

if we flip a handful of Senate seats elsewhere. That will be easier than rehabilitating these two. Although if we do that in 2022 watch Manchin and Sinema suddenly get in line.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
30. You obviously don't now... why would we expect anything else?
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jul 2021

"if we flip a handful of Senate seats elsewhere" can only be the start of a politically useless theory. Every senate seat is important (the difference between 59 and 60 made a difference just a few years ago). This is very likely to be true in 2024 when we have many more seats to defend.

Incredibly shortsighted.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
34. Those seats have little or no meaning
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jul 2021

other than currently giving us a thin majority if they won't vote with us.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Both have voted with Biden's position more than 15 other Democratic Senators....
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jul 2021
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/

Those who have not voted with Biden 100% of the time. For informational purposes, I've highlighted those who ran against President Biden in 2020:

Tammy Baldwin WI 96.90%
Richard Blumenthal CT 96.90%
Cory A. Booker NJ 96.90%
Catherine Cortez Masto NV 96.90%
Tammy Duckworth IL 96.90%
Edward J. Markey MA 96.90%
Jeff Merkley OR 96.90%
Jacky Rosen NV 96.90%
Jon Tester MT 96.90%
Ron Wyden OR 96.90%
Elizabeth Warren MA 96.90%
Kirsten E. Gillibrand NY 96.80%

Patty Murray D WA 96.80%
Chris Van Hollen D MD 96.80%
Bernard Sanders VT 93.50%

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
54. Hello? Those seats are why McTurtle isn't running the Senate right now!
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jul 2021

Because there are 50 Democratic senators, Chuck Schumer is majority leader instead of the turtle. That's actually a pretty BFD.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
53. Getting the truth out there is always worthwhile
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jul 2021

Who knows maybe when these two democratic senators realize what heroes they are to the repubs they might change their minds about the filibuster

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. I don't buy it. Looks like a setup. There's nothing republicans would rather than for both of them..
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jul 2021

....to be primaried and defeated so they can run against Democrats that would probably lose.

Manchin and Sinema are Democrats that have proven they can win in West Virginia and Arizona.

Anyone know of any other Democrats that could win?

kirkuchiyo

(402 posts)
10. If we couild get some meaningful voting rights legislation passed
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jul 2021

We wouldn't need those two seats necessarily. But unless the filibuster goes that isn't going to happen.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. We're very lucky to have Mark Kelly as a Democratic Senator. As good as he is to us, a big reason...
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jul 2021

...he won is that he ran against a very weak incumbent republican who was appointed after losing to Sinema.


Look at the list of Senators from Arizona over the last several decades. Sinema and Kelly are the only Democrats going all the way back to 1988. The only Democrat was Dennis DeConcini who served from 1977 to 1995. Before that the next previous Democrat was Carl Hayden served until 1969 (first elected in 1927) and Ernest McFarland who served until 1953.

No, there are not many Democrats who can run and win in Arizona.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
18. Arizona is not West Virginia.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jul 2021

It’s a purple state trending blue. A mainstream Democrat can win there.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
25. Those aren't the only two seats in the Senate that
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jul 2021

will come up for election someday. We need to focus very hard on taking other seats away from the republicans.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
36. Because we've always done such a great job of winning those seats before....
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jul 2021

Every seat is sacred.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
39. Yes, every seat is sacred.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 04:24 PM
Jul 2021

But every Senator is not. Especially when they are trying to obstruct everything the Democratic President is trying to do. Actually they are a danger to the re-election possibilities for the President.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
45. You're not replacing Joe Manchin
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jul 2021

with a democrat. So, you're begging for another Josh Hawley to join the Senate.

If any democrats are a "threat" to Joe Biden's reelection it's the ones who were endorsing Bernie a year ago.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
52. Wrong on every point.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jul 2021

Last edited Fri Jul 9, 2021, 10:54 PM - Edit history (1)

How dare you to accuse me of begging for another Josh Hawley. You make me want to vomit. Welcome to my ignore list.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
55. If you don't think he'd be replaced with another Josh Hawley or someone just as bad...
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 04:51 PM
Jul 2021

...you're kidding yourself.

We need to hang on to what we've got AND flip some more seats.

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Yes he did, under unusual circumstances. He ran in a special election to complete John McCain's....
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jul 2021

...term. John Kyl was first appointed to replace him but he only kept it for a short time, then Marth McSally was appointed until the special election in 2020. She was horrible, even by Arizona republican standards.

Thankfully, now that he's an incumbent he'll win re-election. But I doubt any other Arizona Democrat would win.

KS Toronado

(17,208 posts)
17. Minority rights are more important than majority rights?????????
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jul 2021

Would they say that if they were in the majority?

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
33. Well, then they say
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

"We hold the majority, so screw you guys!"

See how that works. We lose no matter what.

ETA: Do you think Manchin and Sinema know how they are laughingstocks to the people they claim are their "friends"?

19. The Constitution was written to let the MAJORITY govern, while protecting the minority.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jul 2021

The QGOP's attitude -- so clearly stated in this presentation -- is the Constitution was written so the majority cannot do anything to effect the will of the people, which in 2020 by the overwhelming response at the election polls, and now, when a majority of voters of both parties support Biden's plans. The Repugs are committed to getting their way, no matter which party is in the majority.

And they are ruthless. And cruel. And soulless.

The bastards are willing to throw the entire democratic system under the bus so they can have the power to jam their programs down the majority's throats. We have got to keep the House and Senate Democratic at the mid-terms.

His thank you to Manchin and Sinema should be played in Arizona and W. Virginia every day until they bend on the filibuster. Show their constituents exactly what their Senator's intransigence is costing the people they claim to represent. Make it clear in terms of dollars kept out of their pockets because S&M because won't bend on the filibuster issue. Make it hurt them.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
40. All of this was true more than 20 years ago. We're just
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jul 2021

waking up to it because Dems were focusing on legislating and governing while Rs were focusing on the “permanent majority” regardless of how that majority was formed, including being an actual minority when it came to potential or even actual votes cast. In other words, we were fixed in policy and governing while they were fixed on scheming and ruling.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
27. I hope Manchin and Sinema watch that video because they are making fun of them, they are mocking
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

both of them.

"If you call their office be polite, use a voice like this..."...I would be very angry about it, it is a fantastic show of hypocrisy and disregard for the two of them, they are telling them what nice tools they are for the republican party.

And at the end the guy says "...thank you for being a patriot." then tells the audience "because without the filibuster the republican party is toast." This is amazing! They are belittle them both...With that he understands that their vote has nothing to do with patriotism, it is just a convenient tool for republicans, nothing more.

Someone send this to both of them...

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