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Nevilledog

(51,023 posts)
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:03 PM Jul 2021

Canned Social Security Chief Andrew Saul says Biden had no right to fire him and plans to show up...



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Canned Social Security Chief Andrew Saul says Biden had no right to fire him and plans to show up for work as usual Monday morning. Alas, that means logging on from his home in New York. So not sure it's going to create too much drama or angst. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-low-drama-of-work-from-home… via @TPM
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2:55 PM · Jul 9, 2021


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-low-drama-of-work-from-home

Work from home has been a boon or a loss for people across the US. Now it’s deprived just-fired former Social Security Commissioner Andrew Saul of some what appears to be some much-desired drama. In their write-up of Saul’s firing, which didn’t note that TPM reported the news first but we totally don’t care about those things, the Post quotes Saul as saying he does not recognize the legality of his dismissal and plans to show up for work Monday morning like any other day.

That’s going to be pretty awkward when Saul shows up and presumably SSA personnel have to physically bar him from going to his office! And yet that’s not actually what’s going to happen. Saul plans to go to work Monday morning by logging in from his home in New York – Saul’s a big-time apparel industry executive and GOP donor.

Needless to say, that comes with a bit less drama. Presumably all the folks who are actually in charge of the agency have to do is change his password.

Another bit of irony. What paved the way for this decision was the recent Supreme Court decision which stems from the controversy over whether Trump could can the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

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Canned Social Security Chief Andrew Saul says Biden had no right to fire him and plans to show up... (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Doesn't the President of the United States have the right to fire IRS Commissioner? . .. . Lovie777 Jul 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author gab13by13 Jul 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author gab13by13 Jul 2021 #2
In the recent Supreme Court decision the court wrote in regards to other agencies... PoliticAverse Jul 2021 #3
Well, he can attempt to log on Monday morning SoCalNative Jul 2021 #4
Once upon a long time ago I was the guy who deleted guys like him rurallib Jul 2021 #11
June 30th I disabled my accounts whistler162 Jul 2021 #14
All thee agencies... 2naSalit Jul 2021 #18
Good luck with that. Been fired once, left a few positions. Each time they disabled tulipsandroses Jul 2021 #6
He is going to be surprised when his username and password don't work on Monday MiniMe Jul 2021 #7
Then he'll get to spend the morning on hold Xavier Breath Jul 2021 #12
It'll be hilarious when he shows up and his card key doesn't work C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #8
He's been working from home so all they have to do is deactivate his password. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #9
Womp womp C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #10
The plan was always to hollow the bureaucracy out. Saul wants to stay and finish the job. maxsolomon Jul 2021 #13
I, Biggus Dickus, will not leave! BootinUp Jul 2021 #15
He is only interested in 2 things: Mr. Ected Jul 2021 #16
From the sounds of it he had every reason to expect to be fired...mismanagement of funds PortTack Jul 2021 #17

Lovie777

(12,218 posts)
1. Doesn't the President of the United States have the right to fire IRS Commissioner? . .. .
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:06 PM
Jul 2021

Especially after the President asked him to resign.

Response to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. In the recent Supreme Court decision the court wrote in regards to other agencies...
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:08 PM
Jul 2021
we do not comment on the constitutionality of any removal restriction that applies to their officers.


So it is going to have to take another Supreme Court decision to make this firing stick.


See: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-saul-joe-bide-fire-social-security_n_60d382dfe4b0da66c2db294b

In a concurring opinion on Wednesday, Justice Elena Kagan wrote of Social Security that “a betting person might wager that the agency’s removal provision is next on the chopping block.”



SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
4. Well, he can attempt to log on Monday morning
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jul 2021

but I'm betting that his access has already been deactivated, so....

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
11. Once upon a long time ago I was the guy who deleted guys like him
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:28 PM
Jul 2021

at the company I worked at. One of the perks of my job I always thought. Usually tried to have them gone before they were out the door physically.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
18. All thee agencies...
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 07:36 PM
Jul 2021

Where I worked had your acct disabled at 8am the day of discharge. You had to have all your docs in a row the day before. I expect he'll not have access next time he tries to log in.

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
6. Good luck with that. Been fired once, left a few positions. Each time they disabled
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jul 2021

access to computer systems. badges, etc. So good luck dumbass.
I doubt he will be able to log into anything.


















MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
7. He is going to be surprised when his username and password don't work on Monday
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

At least they wouldn't be if I was in charge.

Xavier Breath

(3,595 posts)
12. Then he'll get to spend the morning on hold
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jul 2021

waiting to speak with his IT group ("There are now seventeen callers ahead of you" ) until some kid comes on the line and reminds him that he's in fact unemployed

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
8. It'll be hilarious when he shows up and his card key doesn't work
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

Hope there are news cameras for that bit of trumpist hilarity. What jokers.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
13. The plan was always to hollow the bureaucracy out. Saul wants to stay and finish the job.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:40 PM
Jul 2021

Claim that Gubmint can't do anything right, then sabotage it to prove the point.

"18 months of Chaos", said the GQP Congressman.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. He is only interested in 2 things:
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jul 2021

1. Collecting his government check.

2. Continuing to create a toxic environment to prove that government doesn't work.

PortTack

(32,709 posts)
17. From the sounds of it he had every reason to expect to be fired...mismanagement of funds
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:52 PM
Jul 2021

Just to please the then idiot king

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