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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTucker Carlson & Guest tell viewers the vaccine could actually make the COVID pandemic worse
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spanone
(135,824 posts)if so....
Grokenstein
(5,722 posts)spanone
(135,824 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)Who really pays you, Tucker? What's your real price for selling out?
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Because we think you have, and you are cruelly urging your viewers not to protect themselves the way you have, TUCKER.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)When your lies on your own health record are killing your listeners. He should be forced to broadcast "I have received the vaccination" every 10 minutes during his "opinions"" on his BS about Covid and the Vaccine.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)One of the first. (He's like 90, so he wasn't really jumping the line much.)
Rupert ought to smack him down, but then RM cares about nothing but money and power.
What power there is in encouraging your loyal viewers to risk their lives, I don't know.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Yesterday, the Batshit-Crazy Michelle Bachmann was on saying pretty much the same anti-covid vaccine thing.
dweller
(23,628 posts)are a public health menace
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OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)If Covid-19, Round 1, did not convince you, watch how they figure out why only anti-vaxers are dying from Delta.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Covid mutates, and the more people get infected, the more it mutates. The "fittests" variants surive.
They are trying to blame it on the vaccine, which is bizarre, since vaccine prevents a large number of infections, therefore preventing virus of mutating in vaccinated people.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)And the guest is basically treating the vaccines like antibiotics, which are obviously very different!
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/why-resistance-common-antibiotics-rare-vaccines
If you have a widespread microbial infection already, and antibiotics don't help eliminate all of it, then the stronger variants in the mix can still replicate and make it even harder to eliminate.
Vaccines help to prevent and reduce infections in the first place! If someone still has a widespread infection thereafter, the vaccine plays no further role in the matter!
His thinking would apply more to some kind of drug treatment after the fact!
Disaffected
(4,554 posts)the same would apply to many vaccines (since a few or none offer 100% protection) and therapeutic drugs. So, does that equate to most of these treatments being net harmful? Obviously not and the same would equally apply to covid vaccines.
Someone should also tell him that the major source of covid variants is the unvaccinated.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)He is blaming vaccines for the variants, but it's unvaccinated that are causing variants because they are getting infected in large numbers.
Furthermore, how would vaccine be more responsible for creating the variants than natural immunity?
Variants that evade natural immunity would survive and spread.
Disaffected
(4,554 posts)He has a point, albeit it spurious, in that vaccinated folks who get the virus may tend to select for a strain that is more resistant to their immunity and thus be more likely to spread that variant than the original.
"He is blaming vaccines for the variants, but it's unvaccinated that are causing variants because they are getting infected in large numbers."
Isn't that what I said before?
"Furthermore, how would vaccine be more responsible for creating the variants than natural immunity?"
I don't think anyone is claiming that.
"Variants that evade natural immunity would survive and spread."
Sure, just like the ones that survive vaccination immunity.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)This dude is claiming vaccines somehow reset the "herd immunity" by selecting for variants which escape the immune system.
Why would vaccines do that but not natural immunity? It's absurd.
caraher
(6,278 posts)(snip)
His (Weinstein's) job is gussy up white nationalism and other alt-right talking points to make them palatable for the mainstream. You can see that in his thoughts on #BlackLivesMatter or the use of non-gendered pronouns. Weinstein has long since stopped being a scientist and instead become another funnel for far-right culture nonsense toward people who think hes still an academic. If you're a bigot and a conspiracy theorist who wants to sound refined, then Weinstein is the perfect dealer.
Weinstein is also a fervent believer in ivermectin (that horse dewormer I mentioned above) as a cure for COVID, which is one of the reason he keeps having social media posts taken down for spreading misinformation. While its hard to find specific instances of him being overtly anti-vaccination, his latest output is implicitly such. In addition to insinuating there is a wide conspiracy to suppress ivermectin, he has had Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche on as a guest. This is where the big Wakefield energy comes in.
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Weinstein has embraced Vanden Bossche as part of his growing media presence that seeks to profit off misinformation and misery. By escalating the fear of vaccination, the crisis is prolonged, and the fear is maintained. That makes for ripe marks willing to hearken to their brand of conservatism. Its an incredibly dangerous game where human lives are being wagered for financial gain. The effects of Wakefields scam are still being felt today, and a resurgence during COVID could be catastrophic.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The guy is a total crackpot. Even YouTube has demonitized his channels because of his ridiculous claims about Ivermectin. He is known as a spreader of disinformation and pseudoscience.
Tucker needs to be pulled off the air for his irresponsible campiagn of spreading disinformation about Covid-19, preventing it's spread and the vaccines developed to mitigate harm.
Article about Ivermectin, fyi...
https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/false-claims-about-ivermectin-as-a-proven-covid-19-treatment/
Disaffected
(4,554 posts)he sounds like someone alright who would appear on Foks News and spew right wing/quack nonsense.
Lovie777
(12,236 posts)Hassler
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Jim__
(14,075 posts)So he's, at the least, misrepresenting the risks about the COVID-19 vaccine having break-through cases.
From the CDC:
Large-scale clinical studies found that COVID-19 vaccination prevented most people from getting COVID-19. Research also provides growing evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna) offer similar protection in real-world conditions. While these vaccines are effective, no vaccine prevents illness 100% of the time. For any vaccine, there are breakthrough cases.
Tribetime
(4,685 posts)Roof safer.....can't he be arrested for something.
caraher
(6,278 posts)Apparently it's the 2021 version of hydroxychloroquine for the conspiracy-minded
In early June, Weinstein began to claim that ivermectina genuinely remarkable antiparasitic drug used to treat tropical diseases such as river blindnesscould be applied to eradicate COVID-19. He invited physicians from a group called the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) to join him in what he called an emergency podcast to save the world. He began by explaining gravely that something very serious is afoot, and the public is largely unaware that they have been placed into a kind of danger. He and his guests offered the claim that ivermectin is 99 percent effective in treating COVID-19; that it could be used as a prophylaxis against infection; and that were it widely used, the pandemic would end in a month. These truths, they suggested, had been suppressed by a conspiracy. They did not specify the mechanism by which the supposed conspiracy works, but they were clear about its object: selling COVID-19 vaccines.
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Had Weinstein stopped there, it would have been nutty, destructive, and misleading, but otherwise inoffensive. Ivermectin is generally a safe drug. Its unlikely his listeners will kill themselves with it. Its the next step he took thats so deadly: On the same podcast, he and his guests argued that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines authorized for use in the United States, as well as the AstraZeneca adenovirus-vector vaccine, are so unsafe that the vaccinated are secretly dropping like flies from their effects. He also has avowed, on both the podcast and his Twitter feed, his trust in a UK physician named Tess Lawrie who has published a phenomenally insane paper that calls COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for human use. The paper advises that Preparation should now be made to scale up humanitarian efforts to assist those harmed by the COVID-19 vaccines.
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We dont know if Weinstein endorses a claim offered by one of his guests, Dr. Steve Kirsch, that COVID-19 vaccines have caused more deaths than have all other vaccines combined over the last 30 years. But he certainly didnt dispute it. It apparently does not trouble him that the original source of the claim is a notorious conspiracy-theory site called Infowars, which is owned by Alex Jones; nor that it is demonstrably false; nor that the claim relies on a misunderstanding of the way data is collected by the US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System; nor that vaccine skeptics make this claim about every vaccine.