If McCarthy doesn't appoint 5 people to the House Select Investigative Committee...

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for Jan. 6, what about the Speaker appointing republicans like Bill Kristol, former Senators Flake and Corker and maybe two other current office holders who voted for the Jan. 6 Commission? That way the committee can't legitimately portrayed as a partisan, Democratic-only charade.

[pnwmom]

1. I've wondered that about Gov. Kasich and John Boehner. n/t

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4. Good ones, both with credibility and actual Republican bona fides.

[NoRethugFriends]

36. did you really say

That both of them have credibility?? 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

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37. Don't get it twisted. Credibiliity for the Speaker's purposes. not Dem credibility/

The select committee will be bipartisan so appointing republicans who are non-trunpers and maybe won't just spew trumper talking points when they have the floor makes sense.

Since it's going to be bipartisan, who do you suggest, Jim Jordan or the Q-anon Greene woman?

[SoCalDavidS]

23. You Do Realize That Boehner Voted For Drumpf Last Year

He said as much in an interview.

[pnwmom]

24. Most R's would have done that. But he's been one of the few speaking out against Jan. 6

and the Big Lie.

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38. We can count on the fingers of one hand republicans who didn't/

The point is to fill the necessary bipartisan requirement with repugs who maybe won't just spew talking points.

If it were up to me, Liz Cheney would be it as far as republicans.

See post number 5. He may have moved off his desire to see trump back in the WH.

[JackintheGreen]

2. There is nothing we can do to prevent it being so characterized

Pelosi was smart to set it up this way. McCarthy has his chance; Pelosi has her quorum.

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8. McCarthy, McTurtle and the rest of course will try, but as evidence is uncovered...

of trump and his sycophants activities and correspondence after Nov. 3 leading up to Jan. 6, it'll become more and more obvious to the public that the currently constituted republican party has much culpability in the insurrection—which is why they're so desperate that they voted down the proposed Jan. 6 Commission and are just as against the House Select Committee on Jan. 6.

We know how they think and the Speaker does too. She's always two steps ahead of them and knows that weeks of televised questioning of witnesses and victimized Capitol and DC police, and probing documents and viewing violent videos will turn some voters heads. And then with a report issued strategically before the mid-terms, it can work for us.

Instead of Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, it can be is Dems characterizing the republicans as the Insurrection, Insurrection, Insurrection party 24/7 in ads and social media until the election.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Sincerely hope you are right!!!! Hard to see it...same ole strategy ideas...but hell, it could work

Promise me one thing...if this turns out to be a bust...using the same old - HONEST and FORTHRIGHT
strategy circa 1980 ...PLEASE rethink????

[johnnyplankton]

3. Boehner Strikes Me as a bit of a drunk...

In every interview he did to promote his book he had a giant glass of wine in his hand...

[pnwmom]

5. I think he could do a good job.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. +1. Very very savvy

[tblue37]

15. A bit? I suspect at least part of why he dissolves in tears so easily is because of

his drinking.

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16. See the video above of him discussing Jan. 6. He enjoys a drink but is no fool.

He's no trump fan.

[Skittles]

25. he very much was part of the culture that enabled Donald Fucking Trump to be prez

Boner is still a republican piece of shit.

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26. You're missing the point. Boenher quit because of the teaparty.

If there have to be republicans on the committee the ones who aren't trumpers will be the least disruptive.

What other republicans should the Speaker appoint? Who are your suggestions?

[Skittles]

27. not sure

it's like picking the better Menendez brother

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39. Yeah, they're just there to fill the bipartisan requirement.

We can't expect much from any of them but maybe Liz Cheney. The Democrats on the committee will do all the digging.

[Skittles]

40. I really honestly do not trust ANY republican

I am really hoping Dems come through on this; yes indeed.

[MurrayDelph]

22. And it would give him a few more chances

to laugh at his own cleverness for calling Ted Cruz "Lucifer in the flesh."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. Yikes... Is it even possible to think beyond the wine? Pros and Cons of WHAT he is saying?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Hmmmmm. Saw some debate today. It doesn't matter one iota

what we do. In fact, this could hurt us more than help us in my mind. But carry on for any new truth!!!

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9. So what are you saying, that there should be no investigation of republican culpability...

of the Jan. 6 attempted coup on our government? Please tell us that in not what you mean.

IMO if we just let this go, the Democratic Party will lose tons of votes and the fascist republicans will take over the House and Senate in '22, the White House in '24 and we will never see a glimmer of power again, nor of democracy.

Exposing republican culpability is that critical.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Totally mixed. Yes! Of course, fight for truth BUT

worried it may be WAY too late. Why is it so late? Hope it's more than impeachment II redux

And the repuke arguments are teed up to maximum effectiveness.

Hope for everyone's sake they only concentrate on what we don't know already. Like who put the bomb at party buildings? Did trump tell law to slow down ( help to Cap police) and who gave the Capitol tour. Which congressmen abetted.

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12. See post 8. We have smart people on our side and we are not without power.

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No way we should resign ourselves to thinking there's nothing we can do. We wouldn't have won the 2 Georgia run-offs if we just gave up.

[NJCher]

11. Investigating is critical

Not only for the record, but to determine the facts. I cannot even fathom a reason for NOT doing so.

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13. Exactly. If we don't, democracy is gone for sure.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Brush, not trying to sound like I'm against seeking out the truth

Maybe I just don't know enough about exactly what we don't know. And more importantly, how do we get that information?

Do we know the scope of what the FBI is investigating? Seems they have a very good handle on looking at video of the actual insurrectionist people for potential crimes. Is that their sole focus? How does FBI fit in with other actions we have no answers to?

What about..

1. Info passed to insurrectionists from govt officials.. Congress, Senate, WH. Before and during event. Have cell phone records been subpoenaed? I know this was what they were worried about.

What about information provided by insurrectionists about any communication between their groups and a government official before event? How would you introduce that information?

2. What about failed bombing attempts the night before? Surely this is an FBI task. And they must not know who did it?

3. Did Congress people really give tours the day before? And how would this play out? Would someone have a picture of someone doing a tour? Is that illegal? Then trot the person up there?

4. Did we get to the bottom of the murky chain of how Capitol police weren't given support? I know that last hearing delved into this... And the answer is probably something we may never get to. Obvious that Trump orchestrated the slowdown of response assistance. But will you ever get anyone to admit this? You know the FG wouldn't have left himself open to be recorded doing this.

Like it or not, FG was found not guilty in his impeachment for inciting the event. Hope we don't get into this one again. Imagine they are primed to defend that again.

Sorry, just rambling.

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31. All of that is the reason for the select committee, as it was for the voted down commission .

If we as seen as the party that just let Jan. 6 slide without trying to get to the bottom of who is culpable, we will lose the '22 and '24 elections soundly. And we will deserve to loose them for kowtowing to the fascists who are trying to have the nation forget all about the attempted coup.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Yes... Guess my mind immediately goes to the WHAT

If we go on and on about what has already been shown and is on public record we will be shown as spiking the football. Right or wrong it will be an automatic open for the right to say we are just going over the same things again and again. We may like to see it repeatedly but imagine the general public won't. Show it once at the beginning and move on to what we don't know.

I sincerely hope that any commission stipulates that which is already been shown and what the FBI is working on already. And drills down to what we don't know outside this scope. Just my opinion

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Well... There was Impeachment, Honore committee, FBI ongoing,

congressional hearings. All that's left are very specific things. Which given it's been so much time and the tight lipped crowd of "trump till they die" folks... could hurt us more than help us. Jeez if I feel this way, and I am 1000000% Dem...

But all that said, would absolutely love to be wrong. Maybe something will be uncovered!!! Hope so

..

[SeattleVet]

14. It's already bipartisan...

Liz Cheney was appointed by Speaker Pelosi.

Smart move.

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17. True, but she's been painted as a turncoat by McCarthy. The Speaker could trump them...

(pun intended) by appointing more actual Republicans from before the trump traitors took over the party. Another poster suggested Boenher and Kasich.

[Volaris]

19. I'd prefer Charlie Crist (sp?) over Kasich, but that's just me.

Boehner wouldnt bother me, he owes the proto-trumpist tea partiers in the house caucus a decent bit of knife twisting imho, and it's not like hes a newbie to how a House Committee is supposed to he run; might make a nice sort of swan song to his career...

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20. I like that. Boenher quit because of the teaparty/proto-trumpists (nice turn of phrase btw).

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I don't know much about Krist. What do you think about Kristol or Flake and Corker?

Wait, I take that back about Flake and Corker. They both knew they were quitting and still wouldn't stand up to trump and his sycophants.

[Volaris]

28. Charlie was gov of florida, and I'm pretty sure he worked for the Obama State Dept,

As far as Kristol, if its going to be somebody who's never BEEN elected, Nancy may as well REALLY turn the screws and put Steve Schmidt on the panel lol.

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32. Schmidt would be great. Republican heads would explode.

[Rhiannon12866]

21. Adam Kinzinger.

[Deminpenn]

29. McCarthy is between a rock and hard place

figuring out who to "recommend" for the select committee. He doesn't have a free hand to appoint Rs like Jordan who will turn the committee into a circus because Pelosi can veto them. I think Pelosi would allow Stefanik, but otherwise McCarthy will have to find reps like Brian Fitzpatrick (PA-1) from swingy districts to appoint.

I think if McCarthy keeps dragging his feet, the committee will just move ahead without any Rs other than Cheney.

[onenote]

41. Members of the Select Committee have to be Members of Congress.

Select Committees are Congressional Committees. The authorizing resolution describes the composition of the Select Committee as being made up of 13 "Members" (with "Members" capitalized, it is a reference to members of Congress).

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42. Very good. How do you happen to know this?

[onenote]

43. I read the resolution authorizing the Select Committee's formation.