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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn a national emergency that may leave us with over million dead, they refused to help the rest
of us fight it and save lives. But that's just some of TFG followers. The rest sabotaged the effort with their leader. This would should never forget. Eventually we'll pick a day to commemorate this tragedy and that should be what we remember, along with all those that died unnecessarily.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)And I'm not just referring to the pandemic that killed so many Americans - but to the administration that lied and ignored it.
MiHale
(9,722 posts)rather like Zinns history of the United States.
The school book version, whitewashed and sanitized as not to upset the public, or the unvarnished version aka the truth.
Problem will be which dominates the narrative.
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)I just finished reading Isabel Wilkersons book, Caste, and she used that phrase in talking about the post-truth world we now live in and the need to remind people of the truth even when they dont want to hear it. Her book is excellent.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Our history/social studies teacher let us know that we wouldn't be using the texbook all that much.
He referred to "Our American Neighbors" as 'Let's fly over the mountains with Mr. Martinez. Look at the clouds!"
I had a pretty good JHS history teacher.
Elessar Zappa
(13,979 posts)have gotten much better at telling the truth these past couple of decades. So, hopefully the improvement will continue and the truth about Trump and his failures will be known far and wide by students across the country.
Dan
(3,554 posts)I believe that as we remember Abraham Lincoln, the Gettysburg Address and the saving of the Union, combined with thinking of Lincoln as our greatest President - then we will remember Trump.
Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States having won after losing the popular vote by 3 million in his first term, and failing in his try for a second term having loss the popular vote by 7 plus million. His notable achievements include but are not limited to:
1. Choosing our foreign adversaries over our own military and foreign policy experts.
2. Casting aside our allies in the war against terror most noticeable the Kurds.
3. Signing for one of the greatest transfers of wealth to the wealthy.
4. Promoting national divisions (race, class, urban vs rural, etc.) versus national unity.
5. Putting into place the most incompetent and self serving administrators to run the nation.
6. The most corrupt administration in the history of the nation.
7. Indifferent to a world wide pandemic that killed over 600,000 people by the end of his
Term in his quest to achieve a second term.
8. An administration where Lying became a noun as a trademark of official communications.
9. Throwing aside the soft power of the U.S. in exchange for questionable relations with
Our greatest foreign adversary.
10. And tarnishing the reputation of the nation on the world wide stage.
Just some of the greatest hits of the Trump era. Im sure that most of you can add more or improve on the list.
Being impeached. Twice!
unblock
(52,208 posts)Or, "the times make the man".
For instance, Reagan is viewed by many (not me) as a successful presidency, but so much of his "success" is due to the carter administration resolving the hostage crisis (despite the incoming Reagan administration'a efforts to delay and sabotage it), the ending of stagflation (volcker was a carter appointee), the easing of the oil crisis, and the birth of the microcomputer tech revolution.
Meanwhile carter is viewers by many as an unsuccessful presidency, but he clearly was a victim of the hostage situation and the stagflation that was a direct result of Nixon/Ford policies.
Dumb luck of timing.
Donnie will largely been remembered as the singularly worst human possible to be in the Oval Office during a pandemic. Frankly, merely inept politicians cynically dream of natural disaster and emergency situations, because they make it so easy for a politician to look like a leader. People want to rally around someone during a major crisis, as America did for shrub after 9/11.
All any political has to do is making unifying speeches and tell us we'll get through this together, then get out of the way of the experts who know how to handle such things. Any mayor in America could have done this.
Donnie was uniquely incapable of doing the obvious and had to interfere, try to grift them situation, and even, I mean w.t. ever-loving f., managed to come out as pro-covid ("anti-mask" is far too biased a term).
paleotn
(17,912 posts)and when it finally came, the stupidity and selfishness of many of us got in the way, causing us to fail miserably. Our only saving grace being other nations were just as stupid and selfish as we were.
Then again, 200 years from now there might still be white washers who attempt to include the early 21st century as just another chapter of our heroic, national mythology. Wonder how they'll spin Donnie Covid?
lark
(23,099 posts)I didn't get hyperbolic on her, her brother is our good friend. Her point was it wasn't approved in regular order so isn't to be trusted, and why would the government approve it? I said the reason is half a million dead by January and the numbers were growing. Just think if those had kept on the same path, the extra hundreds of thousands of people who would have died. Not getting it now, still puts you at the same or even greater risk now with the Delta variant so strong in this area. She did stop at that and thought about it and agreed it really had helped. She said she'd get it when she goes on a cruise at the end of the year. I encouraged her to get it done sooner and she said she would think about it. I was happy with myself for having a calm talk and not getting over the top and still got my point across.
area51
(11,908 posts)we still can't get a right to healthcare in the US.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..hubby is scared of needles (he really is). My hubby is a pharmacist and jabbed lots of folks and had two men faint dead away on him. But they still came in.. good for them. Thats was a very long (emotional) journey they made to the Pharmacy to do the right thing.
sop
(10,170 posts)It seems they're trying to score political points by hindering the current administration's efforts to control the pandemic.