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Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom
Cancel culture is real, at least the version in which which panicky right-wingers fire high school teachers for assigning an article from The Atlantic and a poem.
Don Moynihan
@donmoyn
This really seems extreme and a harbinger of what is to come: veteran (and tenured) high school teacher and baseball coach dismissed from school after he assigned a Ta-Nehisi Coates essay and poem about white privilege. https://wjhl.com/news/local/sullivan-county-teacher-facing-termination-at-school-board-meeting-tuesday-supporters-to-gather/
peppertree
(21,624 posts)All the Best to him.
madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)There is something very wrong with these people.
erronis
(15,241 posts)I won't say it's southern inbreeding because I'll get a lot of rightful flak.
But there is a certain mentality that can harbor concepts such as slavery and misogyny and hatred of others and vilification of learning/knowledge and glorification of stupidity. Not sure if it's in the the water, the air, the bourbon, whatever.
New COVID variants may take care of a bunch of them, to the detriment of the healthcare system and the benefit to the mortuaries.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Harker
(14,012 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)And much of those cultures do what they can to suffocate any sparks.
QED
(2,747 posts)So I don't know if that's a factor here. One thing the union does is provide due process and an attorney for the proceedings. It's a big unknown in this case.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)The union needs to get involved STAT.
QED
(2,747 posts)They may do something at the state level. Who knows?
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Diamond_Dog
(31,977 posts)We were assigned to read Black Like Me and nobodys parents made a stink about it. This was in the early 70s. I wonder how that would go over in this school...
FakeNoose
(32,630 posts)I'm going to hazard a guess that Ronald Reagan brought in a whole new regime in the early 80's.
I was already long out of high school by then, but I do know that teachers were being fired or penalized for teaching anything to their students that smacked of liberal values. Parents were doing this by complaining to the school principals, and in some cases, school boards whenever enough parents teamed up at their open board hearings.
Long story short, it has now been 2 generations of kids who haven't been taught properly in our public schools. Today's teachers grew up during the time that the liberal stifling had already begun. Pretty soon there won't be anyone left who ever heard a liberal opinion spoken in school.
Wuddles440
(1,121 posts)is pervasive in the US and gaining tremendous momentum, but it's actually being promoted by the reich wingers (aka the American Tailban) and not the "marxist libs". The GOPpers are masters of projection and messaging.
Whenever one complains about cancel culture I ask if they think the Dixie Chicks were mistreated. It's either crickets or some convoluted explanation of how that was different.
erronis
(15,241 posts)and you properly framed it in quotes. It's just how easy it is for their spin-meisters to inject phrases into our culture that have hijacked meanings.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)It's part of the authoritarian takeover of learning institutions.
Soon teachers will be too afraid to teach, which is what *they* want.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Out of this state (TN) forever. I'm surrounded by crazy people for whom delusion is the drink du jour, always.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Thats new to me.
tblue37
(65,319 posts)BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)Teachers in K-12 are tenured (in CA at least) after two years of teaching. In those first two years, new teachers are developing curriculum, fine tuning their classroom control styles and working every after school game, dance and spelling bee that gets scheduled.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)I sub in several districts and I know tenured teachers G6-12, in multiple schools.
I don't know for sure about K thru 5, but I doubt they're not treated the same.
I'm not a real teacher, so I don't know what the requirements are.
My wife wasn't considered tenured, I know that.
But, that may be due to her actual job title being social worker. She was a SW & coteacher for special ed.
She retired 15 years ago, so the rules might be different now.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)After meeting certain qualifications and getting a certain amount of experience. The whole concept of tenure is to protect teachers from just what is happening here. Tenure is all about making sure teachers at all levels have academic freedom.
I suspect that there is no teachers' union in this location because a union would be able to demand due process, especially for a tenured teacher.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)I wish all states and all public schools had tenure, for teachers and librarians.
catrose
(5,065 posts)We were always reading from literary and current events magazines.
Ill never forget reading Deliverance as s 16 yr old.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)One student who graduated in 2018 and attended Hawns contemporary issues class for two years, said that he felt Hawn was a fair and balanced teacher.
We talked about a lot of hot button issues in our class, we talked about white privilege, and he was very open and fair and balanced on both sides of the argument, and presented a like I said an open discussion we never saw any, anything that I believe would warrant a dismissal, Kyle Simcox said.
wnylib
(21,430 posts)AnrothElf
(563 posts)Back in 1990-91 when I learned about Nikki Giovanni and "The Great Pax Whitie"...
Here spoken with the Staple Singers providing musical accompaniment: https://m.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48221/the-great-pax-whitie
The Great Pax Whitie
By Nikki Giovanni
In the beginning was the word
And the word was
Death
And the word was nigger
And the word was death to all niggers
And the word was death to all life
And the word was death to all
peace be still
The genesis was life
The genesis was death
In the genesis of death
Was the genesis of war
be still peace be still
In the name of peace
They waged the wars
aint they got no shame
In the name of peace
Lots wife is now a product of the Morton company
nah, they aint got no shame
Noah packing his wife and kiddies up for a holiday
row row row your boat
But whyd you leave the unicorns, noah
Huh? whyd you leave them
While our Black Madonna stood there
Eighteen feet high holding Him in her arms
Listening to the rumblings of peace
be still be still
CAN I GET A WITNESS? WITNESS? WITNESS?
He wanted to know
And peter only asked who is that dude?
Who is that Black dude?
Looks like a troublemaker to me
And the foundations of the mighty mighty
Ro Man Cat holic church were laid
hallelujah Jesus
nah, they aint got no shame
Cause they killed the Carthaginians
in the great appian way
And they killed the Moors
to civilize a nation
And they just killed the earth
And blew out the sun
In the name of a god
Whose genesis was white
And war wooed god
And america was born
Where war became peace
And genocide patriotism
And honor is a happy slave
cause all gods chillun need rhythm
And glory hallelujah why cant peace
be still
The great emancipator was a bigot
aint they got no shame
And making the world safe for democracy
Were twenty millon slaves
nah, they aint got no shame
And they barbecued six million
To raise the price of beef
And crossed the 38th parallel
To control the price of rice
aint we never gonna see the light
And champagne was shipped out of the East
While kosher pork was introduced
To Africa
Only the torch can show the way
In the beginning was the deed
And the deed was death
And the honkies are getting confused
peace be still
So the great white prince
Was shot like a nigger in texas
And our Black shining prince was murdered
like that thug in his cathedral
While our nigger in memphis
was shot like their prince in dallas
And my lord
aint we never gonna see the light
The rumblings of this peace must be stilled
be stilled be still
ahh Black people
aint we got no pride?
Nikki Giovanni, The Great Pax Whitie from Black Feeling, Black Talk, Black Judgment. Copyright © 1968, 1970 by Nikki Giovanni. Used with the permission of HarperCollins Publishers.
Source: The Collected Poetry of Nikki Giovanni (2003)
Edit: I'm crying right now. I cry every time.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)something similar)...most existing class plans were established in years past, so the topics being covered have been covered in years past, w/ the appropriate updates as needed, like any class subject, accounting (new accounting standards), etc.
So how can a teacher be fired for simply following long established class curriculum? It can't be that simple to pick an arbitrary 'gotcha' topic and fire a teacher who's simply following his/her established course curriculum? Or, at least, it shouldn't be that simple.
treestar
(82,383 posts)lawsuit.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,129 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)I expect this will rapidly accelerate and will become a massive, countrywide, phenomenon after the next R "president" gets installed.
People should not get complacent about this sort of action, or make the mistake of thinking that these are isolated incidents.