Did not know how to handle ths situation...

[634-5789]

Went to give blood, and the person recording my rapid pass and asking questions was wearing a mask. I asked her if she had been vaxxed and she said not only was she not vaxxed, she was NOT going to be. I asked" Can I ask why?"

And she told me flat out, it was "none of your business".

Whaddya think? There were other people in the crew, she and another person were masked.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

1. These fuckers are stone cold nuts!

[blueinredohio]

2. My hair dresser said she wasn't going to get the vaccine.

I found a new hair dresser

[634-5789]

4. It's concerning, and IMHO damned stupidity and selfish

[Treefrog]

8. I haven't asked mine. Why would I?

I’m vaxxed and according to the CDC I should be just fine.

[Arazi]

10. I personally don't think we know enough about Covid yet, especially this new variant

Or other potential variants.

By "we" I include the CDC.

I'm not risking it. We certainly don't know enough about long haul Covid. I know people suffering from that and I'm willing to be very proactive to prevent infection

[pandr32]

14. I'm for erring on the side of caution

It can't hurt, but making a mistake could.

[DURHAM D]

9. Same here. nt

[Atticus]

3. I would have left. There is just no real excuse for medical personnel in contact with patients

or the public to not be vaccinated. It is the definition of "unprofessional".

[catrose]

12. Yes

[pandr32]

15. Absolutely

It is the business of anyone to know whether someone dealing with them is vaccinated or not.

[LakeArenal]

24. Yes!

[keithbvadu2]

27. BIGLY!

[Treefrog]

5. To be fair, it is none of your business.

She might have health issues she didn’t want to share with you, nor should she.

I gave blood the other day too. I didn’t quiz the staff on their vax status. I’m vaxxed, and I wore a mask.

[Haggard Celine]

18. I agree.

I wish everybody 12 and up would get vaccinated, but I'm not going to argue with anyone I don't know about whether they should get the shot or not. The vaccine has become thoroughly politicized, thanks to Fox, Trump, and others. All we can do at this point is take responsibility for ourselves.

[Elessar Zappa]

46. Sorry,

I won’t go to any doctors or dentists unless all the staff working with me are vaxxed. I have cystic fibrosis and if I ask their vax status and they tell me it’s none of my business then I’m outta there.

[treestar]

55. It is a communicable diesase

so it still is.

And she's the one that needs others to be vaccinated and masked if that were so, so she could be thankful to the OP and not a jerk.

[snowybirdie]

6. How about

Getting up and saying you don't get medical care from non vaccinated people. Tell the director why too. Give blood elsewhere. How can they provide adequate medical procedures if they are anti science? PS. Good for you for giving blood.

[zuul]

20. Great response!

[Sherman A1]

25. Precisely

That is exactly what to have done.

[moonscape]

34. Someone in a cancer forum

I participate in gets treatment at the Cleveland Clinic. She said only 40% of employees are vaxxed. She wrote the CEO but got no response, so sent an editorial to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. We have cancer of the plasma cells, responsible for making anti-bodies. She should not have to navigate unvaxxed health workers with such a vulnerability.

After her editorial was published, she got a phone threat from a stranger saying he was coming after her.

[Metatron]

37. My best wishes for your treatment.

How frightening to receive a threat like that.

[Arazi]

7. I would have asked for a different intake person. She may be an asymptomatic spreader

I don't want to get too close to anyone I KNOW their status if I have a choice.

Then you have to mean it and walk away if they don't have someone else help you.

[CurtEastPoint]

11. Was this at a Red Cross donation center?

[634-5789]

13. No, at an outpost.

[NQAS]

16. When I gave blood last month ...

The woman taking my blood told me she was not vaccinated, and my impression was that it was her plan not to be.

I was shocked, and that ended any casual blood donating chit chat.

I think that’s wrong but decided not to make a fuss.

I’ll just wear my mask and only speak when spoken to. No chit chat, no talk about vaccines. Or anything else. I’m a relatively new donor - just over a year - and it seems churlish not to donate when the blood is needed just because someone is an asshole.

Not all the unvaccinated will die off but maybe enough will to make people change their minds.

BTW, I’m not in the south. In northern new England.

[TigressDem]

17. But if an anti-vaxxer handles blood and contaminates it, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

I mean pilots have to be sober while flying.

Doctors have to scrub and put on sterile gloves for surgery.

Kennels make sure your animal has all it's shots before it can stay with other animals.

So many parts of our society function within the idea that safer is better.


AGAIN blows my mind that this is even an issue.


IF it was only the anti-vaxxer's life on the line, then OK it's their choice like smoking, but even with smoking, you can't do it TO other people, so many areas are smoke free.

[KentuckyWoman]

45. That's actually quite difficult to do.

Nurses, doctors, phlebotomists, all come to work sick on occasion. Sometimes they know it and feel obligated to cover the shift, and sometimes they don't know. If they follow protocols the likelihood of spreading disease is fairly small.

The protocols for handling blood products is designed to compensate for this sort of thing. Specifically with covid, if everyone is masked, those donating and the blood itself, is perfectly safe.

[TigressDem]

60. Well, that is comforting.

It's really freaked me out when someone in health care has done stuff like leave Covid vaccinations out on purpose so they spoiled because they didn't agree with them in the beginning of all this.

I think of health professionals as just that, professionals who have standards that rise above politics.

But guess we are all humans. So some things happen that push people over the line and they choose stupid.

[left-of-center2012]

19. The young man who delivers my prescriptions has not been vaccinated

He wears a mask.
I asked him why he has not been vaccinated and he said he's not sure about this whole thing.

Works for a pharmacy, delivers prescriptions, but he has doubts about how real this covid thing really is and what they're really putting in those shots they're giving people.

Said he would just wait it out and see what happens.

[Stuart G]

21. Times have really changed:..in 1955 someone at summer day camp got polio..

They told us..to get vaccinated. Within a day or two ...I.was vaccinated..& I assume everyone else was too................................

This kills and causes horrific pain.....???? I don't understand..Do YOU?......

[Marrah_Goodman]

22. I would have left

[DFW]

23. For what it is worth

I have heard that some people with certain medical conditions have been advised not to get vaccinated, as it risked wreaking some serious harm to them. I don't recall what those conditions were, but if the person involved had one of those conditions, and was reluctant to discuss it with a stranger, I could understand. There is no way to know, unfortunately, if she didn't want to discuss it, whether her refusal to get vaxxed was for medical reasons, or because she was a Foxaholic.

[unblock]

26. Allergies and some compromised immune systems issues.

I know several people in each category who would love to take the vaccine but can't.

It is, as others have noted, nobody else's business *why* someone is not vaccinated.

That said, as again others have noted, people are free to request that they only deal with vaccinated people.

[treestar]

59. Most people IMO would say so

"I can't be vaccinated for medical reasons." That is not oversharing or embarrassing or a great reason to be hostile and say they aren't and have no intention to and it's "none of your business." Their saying that IMO makes it much more likely they are a right wing anti vaxxer with political reasons rather than any medical reasons.

[JuJuChen]

28. "Enjoy Delta, have a good day"

[alphafemale]

29. It is none of your business. Ever heard of HIPAA?

It is flat out none of your business.

We may want people to be vaccinated.

But medical/ethical reasons are private and should be.

[LisaL]

30. HIPAA doesn't mean you personally can't ask someone

if they have been vaccinated.

[alphafemale]

31. But none of your EFFING business beyond that.

You have a right to walk away.

You don't have a right to interrogate somebody.

[Blue_Adept]

39. Casual conversation is not interrogating someone

[alphafemale]

40. So someone can ask you what color underwear you are wearing?

Just casual conversation.

[Blue_Adept]

42. Yes, and it's not illegal to do so.

Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

[treestar]

57. not equivalent

this is a communicable disease. You can catch it from a person who is near you.

[smirkymonkey]

32. HIPAA regulates hospitals and insurance companies, not individuals.

People have a right to ask, and people have a right to decline answering. Also, if the people being asked don't answer or answer "no" then the person dealing with them has a right to no longer deal with them or provide them with services.

[alphafemale]

33. That's exactly what I said. It is none of your business.

You can ask if they are vaccinated. They are not compelled to respond.

And individuals are subject to HIPAA rules.

It is just rarely enforced because people are such assholes about gossiping about things that are none of their damn business. Even in the most egregious of cases of celebrity's medical privacy being made public.

[smirkymonkey]

36. Why are you so hostile?

And no, it is not exactly what you said. Go back over your posts.

And also, No, HIPAA does not regulate individuals. It regulates institutions and their patients/covered entities.

You are correct that individuals are not compelled to respond, but that is a privacy matter and not because of HIPAA.

[alphafemale]

41. Where do you see hostility because I disagree?

Seriously?

[smirkymonkey]

43. "But none of your EFFING business beyond that."

I don't know, I guess telling people that things are "none of their business" on a board like this comes across as a little aggressive. There are nicer ways to get your point across. Of course that line was directed toward Lisa L., but still, a bit hostile.

[Blue_Adept]

44. You're not the only one that's getting the aggressive/hostile vibe from them.

[Elessar Zappa]

47. No, individuals are not subject to HIPPA laws/

[alphafemale]

50. I took the required HIPAA training two days ago

You think individuals are not not subject to HIPAA laws? Really?

You think a pharmacy worker could not be prosecuted if she/he called a tabloid and said that a celebrity is picking up an anti-anxiety medication?

Really?

I took the education two days ago.

It is just not often enforced.

[Elessar Zappa]

51. What I meant is

there’s no law preventing someone from asking another person if they’re vaccinated.

[alphafemale]

53. They do not have to reply.

You can ask someone if they have ever had sex with a farm animal.

[Elessar Zappa]

48. Regardless,

If they won’t answer me, I’ll walk out in a second. I have a serious lung disease and I’m not dealing with anti-vaxxers in any way, shape, or form.

[alphafemale]

52. And that is perfectly fine.

Don't go to any Amish communities if you are immune compromised.

[treestar]

58. It is a communicable diesase

that you are most likely to get from people near you.

And you have a right not to be near people who don't care if they spread it to you.

[treestar]

56. Then why not say that

instead of saying she was not vaccinated and was not going to be? Much more likely she is another anti-vaxxer.

And this is a communicable disease. You can get it from other people. Therefore it is everyone's business.

[UTUSN]

35. Well yeah, I want to ask and don't like not asking. Service pros SHOULD vax & say so.

[leftyladyfrommo]

38. I don't ask. I figure they have been warned over and over

and over. If they choose to put themselves and their families at risk then there isn't anything anyone can do.

I am in Missouri so I am wearing my mask again when I go into stores.

[KentuckyWoman]

49. With respect - you handled it fine.

That sort of chit chat is usual. "None of your business" feels rude when you are sitting there just thinking it's a nice conversation. "I'd rather change the subject." "I'd rather not say" ... some such come out nicer but the end result is the same. Unfortunately, when it comes to Covid, there doesn't seem to be much nice anywhere. It seems like everything to do with this ends up being mortal combat.

In the future don't ask. It's a hot button topic. Come up with different chit chat and spare yourself the chance of getting a rude answer.

[treestar]

54. It is a communicable disease

so it is everyone's business.