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ripcord

(5,346 posts)
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 08:04 PM Jul 2021

I'm not a good person

A friend sent me a link to a video of some sovereign citizen being stupid and telling cops he isn't driving as he pilots his car down the highway he is traveling since he isn't acting in a commercial capacity. He didn't have a driver's license and the car had a homemade license plate, they finally got tired of his refusal to identify himself so they could ticket him so they busted out his window and arrested him. I then followed the YouTube links and watched 12 more sovereign citizens get their windows busted out for stupidity, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

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I'm not a good person (Original Post) ripcord Jul 2021 OP
Link? Nictuku Jul 2021 #1
This one is good ripcord Jul 2021 #4
Gold Star Idiot! leftieNanner Jul 2021 #5
"I've never agreed to your rules". SergeStorms Jul 2021 #17
So what protects your "private property", dumbass?! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #23
Link? Treefrog Jul 2021 #2
Sovereign citizen videos are generally pretty hilarious, and I don't feel bad about saying that. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #3
So after watching this it seems to me these people are anarchists right? Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #6
Oh, the sovereign citizen thing is a trip. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #9
Not really. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #11
Depends on the anarchist AnrothElf Jul 2021 #16
It's great when they start citing the UCC. rsdsharp Jul 2021 #7
I've gone down that rabbit hole too. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #8
They have refined stoopid to weapons-grade. lastlib Jul 2021 #20
Zero tolerance for these convoluted head cases. NBachers Jul 2021 #10
Sovereign citizens and libertarians bring to mind toddlers... 3catwoman3 Jul 2021 #12
Libertarians.... albacore Jul 2021 #15
I've always wondered, why the fake license plate? paleotn Jul 2021 #13
Ain't no goobermint gon tell me what to do. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #14
Good people appreciate bad people GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #18
Van Balion and Schrodinger's Cat have excellent anti-SC videos up jmowreader Jul 2021 #19
Those morons all speak the same language RainCaster Jul 2021 #21
I can only imagine onethatcares Jul 2021 #22
Look how patient the cops are with this nonsense. Solomon Jul 2021 #24

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
5. Gold Star Idiot!
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 08:34 PM
Jul 2021

The commentary was pretty funny too.

Can't lie. I skipped to the end where they busted his window. A person with a brain can only listen to that crap for so long.

Thanks for sharing.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
17. "I've never agreed to your rules".
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:43 PM
Jul 2021

As soon as your "private vessel" hits the Florida highway you agree to follow their rules. What a dumbass.

And he's going to take him to "common law" court.

And his children had to witness their father demonstrating what a total jackass he is.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
23. So what protects your "private property", dumbass?!
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:32 AM
Jul 2021

You don't acknowledge government, so I guess that means someone else could just break your jaw and take whatever they want! Don't expect a government agency to protect you or to seek justice, because you don't accept such things! Right?!

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
3. Sovereign citizen videos are generally pretty hilarious, and I don't feel bad about saying that.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 08:12 PM
Jul 2021

I laugh my ass off watching those idiots get harassed by those dastardly road pirates. It really never gets old. If you really want a laugh, search for "Sovereign Citizen Bingo" on Youtube, then go right down that rabbit hole. Enjoy!

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
6. So after watching this it seems to me these people are anarchists right?
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jul 2021

I've never even heard of this sovereign citizen thing before. But how can you be so stupid to think that just by saying these things that you won't get arrested?

I wish in the video that they had showed what happened after they broke the guy's window.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
9. Oh, the sovereign citizen thing is a trip.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jul 2021

They have a whole "body of law" that they cite, thinking it exempts them from having to obey the law like normal people do. Their basic gig is, "I have all the privileges, rights, and freedoms, but none of the corresponding responsibilities." They use specific terminology, too. For instance, they don't drive, they "travel." It's some weird, weird shit.

I don't think I'd call them anarchists, since they're not in favor of having no overarching form of government. They just think government has no power over them.

Believe me, cops absolutely hate having to deal with sovereign citizens. That said, they also love arresting and charging them with anything and everything they can think of.

Ms. Toad

(34,065 posts)
11. Not really.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jul 2021

They are citing actual law. It just doesn't apply to the situations they are trying to apply it to. So anarchists would simply reject the law. They are playing within the system as they believe the system works.

I've actually had to draft serious judicial opinions in response to appeals from these guys. It is way harder (and more time consuming) because you can't just say, "you have not cited any law to support your position." Since they are citing actual law, we have to meticulously explain why the law they are citing has nothing to do with what they are citing it for.

AnrothElf

(567 posts)
16. Depends on the anarchist
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jul 2021

Arguably Hobbes was a philosophical anarchist, in that he acknowledged that our natural state is anarchy.

He just thought that was bad, and The Leviathan preferable, even when it grows tyrannical.

The Kropotkin-loving crowd? More communist than anarchist.

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
7. It's great when they start citing the UCC.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jul 2021

What the Uniform Commercial Code has to do with a speeding violation is beyond me.

My favorite is the woman who kept citing Article IV of the Articles of Confederation as authority that she was not bound by any laws. It was lost on her that the Article in question didn’t say that, and was superseded by the Constitution in any event.

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
20. They have refined stoopid to weapons-grade.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jul 2021

Now they're inventing the means to inflict it on the rest of us.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
12. Sovereign citizens and libertarians bring to mind toddlers...
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jul 2021

…and preschoolers who holler, “You’re not the boss of me!” About the same level of psychological development.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
15. Libertarians....
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:11 PM
Jul 2021

want all the benefits of civilization and none of the costs and responsibilities.
Like conservatives, they are saying "I've got mine, and fuck you."
Somebody compared them to a barn-full of feral cats.

The sovereign citizens are all that... but with fewer teeth and much lower IQ.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
13. I've always wondered, why the fake license plate?
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:42 PM
Jul 2021

Why not no license plate? God, these people are idiots.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
14. Ain't no goobermint gon tell me what to do.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jul 2021

If you don't want to get a tag and a driver license, then just stay off the public roads. easy peasy.

Dumbshits.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. Good people appreciate bad people
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

Getting their come-Uppance. I’m hoping all the assholes that invaded the Capitol on January 6 go bankrupt. That actually puts a mark on the good side of my ledger of life.

You are good in my book.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
19. Van Balion and Schrodinger's Cat have excellent anti-SC videos up
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jul 2021

Schrodinger's Cat is turning more to First Amendment Auditor videos because the SC community seems to have transitioned from getting arrested for driving illegally to getting arrested for harassing people with video cameras.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
22. I can only imagine
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:26 AM
Jul 2021

the kids take on gramps,

Mom: How was your day?

Kids: It was really neat. Like watching one of those teevee picture things about the bad guys.

Mom: Oh, you saw the police arrest a bad guy?

Kids: No, we watched Grandpa get his window broke and his ass beat by the sheriff.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
24. Look how patient the cops are with this nonsense.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

Wonder what else would be broke if he was a black guy?

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