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Trump wasn't just an abnormal figure- Psychiatrists say his rhetoric (Original Post) Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 OP
A daily stressor... No wonder so many are trying to tune out on politics (to our own detriment, hlthe2b Jul 2021 #1
All the broken friendships and family relationships he caused. Makes me really sad Walleye Jul 2021 #2
I lost a 35 year friendship over Jan. 6th Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #3
Best part: patricia92243 Jul 2021 #4
I really felt it yesterday. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #5
For me, it's watching those videos of Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #7
We are on day two of cutting the cable. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #9
That is smart- Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #11
Kept the internet and still multigraincracker Jul 2021 #14
Try this it's free nwliberalkiwi Jul 2021 #17
I have that on my phone. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #21
On your Internet. kentuck Jul 2021 #26
All the inputs on my old tuner are RCA jacks. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #27
Your computer has an audio out or headphone out. Elwood P Dowd Jul 2021 #37
Google "usb to rca" ret5hd Jul 2021 #38
That might work. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #42
My tablet has a headphone out mini jack. I've used it many times hooked up to the back of a receiver Elwood P Dowd Jul 2021 #43
Sounds like just the ticket. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #44
Radio Garden is GREAT babydollhead Jul 2021 #49
I agree. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #25
i feel like im standing on the edge of a cliff every single day...our lead is so thin samnsara Jul 2021 #6
Oh no, I didn't know that about Hirono PatSeg Jul 2021 #30
The understanding that I am not alone is a small comfort. n/t ariadne0614 Jul 2021 #8
Same Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #10
The first time I ever saw his face on TV for 30 seconds, Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #13
I heard 5 minutes of Sean Hannity on Fox recently. yardwork Jul 2021 #15
I thought once he was gone we'd be ok New Breed Leader Jul 2021 #16
That's how I am starting to feel Thtwudbeme Jul 2021 #19
Do you really believe that? He'll look good when he's indicted around October. marble falls Jul 2021 #20
that's about the only thing that will stop him New Breed Leader Jul 2021 #35
Thank you all for your honesty... slightlv Jul 2021 #18
You hit a cord with me. Scottie Mom Jul 2021 #39
They have tagged him. kentuck Jul 2021 #22
The Whack-A-Mole Party will not die easily or ever. rickford66 Jul 2021 #23
Great perspective. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #24
Sleep deprivation from waking up giggling at his nonsense. czarjak Jul 2021 #28
Trump is the Anti-Christ, IMO Bo Zarts Jul 2021 #29
Amen, Brother Rat unweird Jul 2021 #33
Amen! mnhtnbb Jul 2021 #34
I know it's hard but Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #31
HE is not the problem. Merely a symptom. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #32
Putin would say... Yavin4 Jul 2021 #36
I cut the cable about a decade ago, but I streamed MSNBC on Sling until a couple of months ago msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #40
This is probably going to draw a lot of flame, but oh well... Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #41
Fascism causes HUGE trauma. roamer65 Jul 2021 #45
I use CBD pills Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #46
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #47
4 years worth of Trauma. sarcasmo Jul 2021 #48
Those of us who had ever been in a partnership with a pathological narcissist... Grasswire2 Jul 2021 #50
I felt like he was the bully of us all Tree Lady Jul 2021 #51

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
1. A daily stressor... No wonder so many are trying to tune out on politics (to our own detriment,
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:24 AM
Jul 2021

unfortunately)...

Remaining vigilant means remaining highly stressed for most.

Walleye

(30,996 posts)
2. All the broken friendships and family relationships he caused. Makes me really sad
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:25 AM
Jul 2021

Life is too short for this kind of shit

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
3. I lost a 35 year friendship over Jan. 6th
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:31 AM
Jul 2021

My friend got lost in "Q" theories- and would send me all this horrible stuff and weird youtube videos. He's agoraphobic so I know he wasn't at the Capital that day. It was terrifying and heartbreaking to watch him go down that rabbit hole- and there was no talking to him or helping him.

I am sure he thinks Trump is coming back somehow in August.

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
4. Best part:
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:57 AM
Jul 2021

"If you feel traumatized by Trump, this means your empathy and moral compass are still functioning," James said.

multigraincracker

(32,656 posts)
5. I really felt it yesterday.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jul 2021

I'm ok most of the time but yesterday a pickup passed me with a big sign on the back that said "F*** Biden", not the moral majority.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
7. For me, it's watching those videos of
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:27 AM
Jul 2021

people at CPAC. I know, I need to stop watching them. Extremely upsetting- the video and running commentary on Caitlyn Jenner was so upsetting in several different ways.

multigraincracker

(32,656 posts)
9. We are on day two of cutting the cable.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jul 2021

A lot less of political drama and more listing to my 50 year old stereo to classic rock. We just break out dancing every once in a while.

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
17. Try this it's free
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jul 2021

In a search type: Radio Garden
Thousands of radio stations all over the world, and its free!!!

multigraincracker

(32,656 posts)
21. I have that on my phone.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jul 2021

Now, how do I play it on my analog, old time, tuner?
For now I listen to a college classic rock radio station.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
37. Your computer has an audio out or headphone out.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

Go on Amazon and find you a cheap audio cable with a single stereo mini plug on one end and two male RCA jacks on the other. Plug in the mini jack to the computer and the RCA jacks to an unused audio input on the back of your old stereo receiver (or integrated amp if you have separates). It could be an unused tape input or unused Aux input, just don't use the phono input because it's RIAA EQ will mess up a line level signal.

multigraincracker

(32,656 posts)
42. That might work.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jul 2021

Do they make a firewire out put into RCA?. I could use my phone. My computer is pretty far away. I do have an android tablet, have to see what kind of in/out connector it has.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
43. My tablet has a headphone out mini jack. I've used it many times hooked up to the back of a receiver
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jul 2021

with the unused Aux In to play internet radio stations through the stereo. You could also buy a bluetooth adaptor for your old receiver and send music to it that way from the computer or tablet.

babydollhead

(2,231 posts)
49. Radio Garden is GREAT
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 12:01 AM
Jul 2021

just click on any green dot on planet earth, and you can listen to music in South America, all over Africa, zip up to Finland and out on the tiny islands. Such a great experience

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
6. i feel like im standing on the edge of a cliff every single day...our lead is so thin
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:22 AM
Jul 2021

...and Mazie K. Hirono has stage 3 or 4 kidney cancer Lets hope the other manchin and kirsten get their shit together very soon.

ariadne0614

(1,708 posts)
8. The understanding that I am not alone is a small comfort. n/t
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:29 AM
Jul 2021

Still, I'm glad to see the details in black & white. Bookmarked for future reference.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
10. Same
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:36 AM
Jul 2021

It's horrible. I don't want to live around these people. I had someone on my neighborhood FB page try to mansplain that he flies the Confederate flag because "they" fought for the true intentions of the founding fathers.

I am 7th generation North Carolinian. I know damn good and well what "they" were fighting for. My stories of that war are second hand from my grandfather (long gone) who knew some of the veteran's in my family.

I blocked that clown immediately.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
12. The first time I ever saw his face on TV for 30 seconds,
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:38 AM
Jul 2021

just in passing, I was traumatized.

He emanates profound, pure evil. Completely devoid of love, kindness, and compassion. He should be locked up in a maximum security asylum for criminal psychopaths, because he is a threat to not just every human, but all life on our planet as well.

Every day that he roams free, more damage to the world is done.

yardwork

(61,587 posts)
15. I heard 5 minutes of Sean Hannity on Fox recently.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

His words were disturbing. I can't imagine listening to Fox all day. It is literal propaganda designed to frighten and anger listeners.

New Breed Leader

(622 posts)
16. I thought once he was gone we'd be ok
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

but trumpism is alive and well with him gone and it's coming to destroy democracy and I'm scared to death.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
19. That's how I am starting to feel
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jul 2021

I am getting pretty angry that I have to worry about those jackwits both in terms of what they will do to people they don't like (non-caucasions, non-heteros, non-christians), how they will affect our public education institutions, and healthcare.

So yes- I am scared.

New Breed Leader

(622 posts)
35. that's about the only thing that will stop him
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jul 2021

being indicted.

but it still won't stop all that trumpists in red states . voter suppression is OFF the charts

slightlv

(2,783 posts)
18. Thank you all for your honesty...
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:23 AM
Jul 2021

I am SOOOO glad I'm not alone in feeling this way! I'm 65 and I've never been so scared in my life. I've got a Trumper across the alley who desperately needs anger management classes. Problem is, I probably need them, too. I can fly off the handle at the least little thing, and anything is just "one thing to many" for my mind to deal with. I've not been like this before. For Pete's Sake, the first doc's appt after *rump took office, the doc put me on blood pressure medicine! Never needed that before, either.

I think we're all suffering PTSD. I'm not Christian, and I honestly have never wanted to see God strike someone dead like I do this evilness. Almost makes me believe in Revelation as a now-time prophecy, with *rump as the anti-Christ. He and his followers are sure fulfilling the prophecies! Maybe that's why so many good people are dying; they're being "raptured." Wouldn't THAT explode some of his cultists' heads!

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
39. You hit a cord with me.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jul 2021

I am a long time opponent of the death penalty. I’m in my 70s. And I admitted to myself that if Trump was sentenced to death for his crimes against our nation, not only would I not oppose the sentence, I would have no problem pulling the switch.

I am horrified feeling this way, but I fully admit that I do.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
22. They have tagged him.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jul 2021

(snip)
James elaborated on how Trump is so effective at hurting people.

"Trump is widely regarded as a malignant narcissist; twisting the truth, gaslighting and bullying," James explained. "Trump uses DARVO - a blame-shifting strategy used by abusers including narcissists: 1. Deny 2. Attack 3. Reverse Victim & Offender. He used it against 20 women who accused him of sexual assault. He's also used it to claim the Democrats were trying to steal the election he won by a landslide."

rickford66

(5,522 posts)
23. The Whack-A-Mole Party will not die easily or ever.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jul 2021

WTF is a conservative Democrat ? Gimmie a break. WTF is a middle-of-the-road Democrat ? Who are these Democrats anyway ? Paid-for roadblocks to keep the wealthy and powerful, wealthy and powerful. The average American must be convinced to vote in their own interests. I remain in the endless struggle.

Bo Zarts

(25,392 posts)
29. Trump is the Anti-Christ, IMO
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:42 AM
Jul 2021

I am an agnostic bordering on atheist (very fuzzy line there). I don't believe in Biblical prophecies. However, I think the men and women who wrote the Bible were aware, as we all are, that from time over the ages - and now - truly evil people were born, and ascended to power on the earth. Let's say Jim Jones on a very small scale, Donald Trump on a large scale, and Adolf Hitler on a grand scale. However, that is open-ended. Trump might end up worse than Hitler before this fucking nightmare is over.

I can't watch TV news anymore, because of the coverage of Trump, his family, and his crazy cultists. I can't even watch my old MSNBC regulars.

I harbor a resentment and hate that is unhealty. I have thoughts and wishes against all of them that I dare not speak: Trump, his evil spawn, his sychophantic desciples, and his crazy mob. I am sick. I am recovering from a very bad surgery, and I have serious pain issues. If Trump were to die today (of natural causes, preferably), I would heal quicker. Let it be, dear Lord, let it be.

Do I hear an Amen?

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
34. Amen!
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jul 2021

I'm right there with you imagining what justice would entail for Trump, his family, and the cowardly Republican sycophants who have enabled him.

Elessar Zappa

(13,941 posts)
31. I know it's hard but
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:48 AM
Jul 2021

try and tune him out. You can follow the news without exposing yourself to his hateful rallies and rhetoric. Also, turn to nature to balance out the evil in the world. Go on regular hikes or start gardening, anything to get you to focus on the beauty of life.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
32. HE is not the problem. Merely a symptom.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:03 AM
Jul 2021

The problem is a much deeper issue in American society that has to be resolved. It is the same trouble other countries have when a small group wants to force their way on everyone else.

The wealthiest have used every trick to keep workers fighting each other.... and here we are.

The idiots that follow him are only partially the problem. They are victims to a degree. Brainwashed by the wealthy who run the information outlets. Until we we deal with that ... the trouble will simply keep getting worse. The next voice to rise to the top will make Trump look sane.... if we don't deal with it.

Yavin4

(35,427 posts)
36. Putin would say...
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:28 AM
Jul 2021

Trump was an overwhelming success.

Putin's goal is to sow distrust and anxiety into the American people.

msfiddlestix

(7,272 posts)
40. I cut the cable about a decade ago, but I streamed MSNBC on Sling until a couple of months ago
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:20 PM
Jul 2021

I recall how one night I first started tuning out Rachael, who I watched just about every evening for the entire duration of the psychotic occupying the white house. My routine was, I would watch Joy Reid, skip Chris Hayes and tune into Rachael.

I tended to put up with the constant repetition/looping of statements she made at the opening segment over and over and over again until she'd finally get to the damn point. But sometime around all of the outrageous audits in AZ and the shenanigans in Georgia, whih was already overwhelming and granted, worthy of reporting new developments, but not starting from the beginning each and every night.

What I think I couldn't take anymore, were the news regarding NY Prosecutors potential indictments looming large with 'gonna happen any day now' reports, which finally I just couldn't take anymore. I started tuning her out, and then decided I couldn't watch or listen to any of the other shows altogether. Although, I have to say I do miss L.O. and B.W and Joy. However I canceled Sling and no longer have access to live MSNBC broadcasting. It's just not worth the cost financially or mentally.

I come to DU and skim the headlines, skim General OP's and that's how I gauge what's important to consume. Otherwise, I've been making up for a lot of lost time and energy directing my focus strictly to wood-shedding. and practicing my music. And of course engage in other domestic and social stuff with neighbors friends and family.

Tuning it all out as far as broadcast media goes. It's really done wonders for my mental health. plus I'm exercising more.




Jedi Guy

(3,184 posts)
41. This is probably going to draw a lot of flame, but oh well...
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:48 PM
Jul 2021

Seems like a lot of folks let Trump live in their heads rent-free. If you feel "traumatized" when you see Trump, a Trump flag/sign, or a "Fuck Biden" flag/sign... well, I don't really know what to tell you. Feeling pissed off is one thing, feeling "traumatized" is another; it's letting him get under your skin, which is exactly what he wants. He craves that reaction. So don't give it to him. He's a parasite who thrives on your attention, and your attention is yours to give or withhold as you see fit.

Like it or not, this is our society now, and Trump supporters are part of it. Just like their idiotic idol, giving them the reaction is giving them exactly what they want. Why do you think they giggle and crow about "triggering" people and "owning the libs"? Tell them to fuck off, then just ignore them. Or better yet, just ignore them from the start. It's a game where the only winning move is not to play, so don't engage with their horseshit. It's reactions like these that gave rise to the "triggered liberal snowflake" bullshit they like to fling at people.

Unless you completely withdraw to an echo chamber composed of only those who agree with you, you're going to have to acknowledge and deal with people who disagree with your views, and in some cases theirs will be diametrically opposed to your own. That's how it goes living in a free society. Withdrawing into echo chambers is part of what got us into this mess, and it seems like that's kind of what these psychiatrists are advocating with the advice to "find your tribe." That's a bit concerning to me, but that's another topic altogether.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
50. Those of us who had ever been in a partnership with a pathological narcissist...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 12:29 AM
Jul 2021

...were triggered daily by Trump. Still are. We know what comes after the red face and the rage. We feel it when Trump talks; it seeps into our everyday life.

Personally, it affected my blood pressure to a degree that I was sent to the ER more than a few times and fought the repressed trauma daily.

Only recently has it improved -- I started taking ashwagandha -- a supplement 3,000 years old that helps a person adapt to stress. I am now OFF my main blood pressure med, only taking a diuretic and a mild beta blocker.

Tree Lady

(11,443 posts)
51. I felt like he was the bully of us all
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jul 2021

And his followers were like the bullies friends those were like him and same way or those afraid of him and going along.

The rest of us traumatized daily, fearful, angry, feeling a lack of control.

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