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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:52 AM Jul 2021

I was on an elementary school playground at recess when the news spread that

Marine Alan Shepherd had actually flown out into "space" and returned alive. We did not yet really understand what that meant, but we were thrilled to hear that our country had visited a new frontier.

Today's Virgin Galactic flight was even more breathtaking.

Now if we can just save this planet before we have to flee it or perish.

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I was on an elementary school playground at recess when the news spread that (Original Post) Atticus Jul 2021 OP
I recall a similar memory. Blue Dawn Jul 2021 #1
So far, it's only billionaires who are succeeding in escaping the planet EYESORE 9001 Jul 2021 #2
The movie 2012 comes to mind... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2021 #5
Humanity would be getting off easy if we could claim that the end of the world wasn't our fault. Towlie Jul 2021 #11
When I think of what motivates billionaires, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2021 #16
And in 1500 it was only billionaires sir pball Jul 2021 #8
Actually it was ordinary sailors who did the exploring thucythucy Jul 2021 #24
But they had to come back Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #9
Our elementary school class was marched into the gym Zorro Jul 2021 #3
Admiral Shepard was not a Marine. He was a Navy aviator.. Jack from Charlotte Jul 2021 #6
My bad. I blame a classmate who bragged about it being a Marine "of course" who made the Atticus Jul 2021 #10
It really was! obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #4
I was born in 1954 and I remember being confused about rocket launches as a child hauckeye Jul 2021 #7
My elementary science teacher said that below escape velocity a rocket would hit an invisible wall. Towlie Jul 2021 #13
When you think about it...66 years between Kitty Hawk and the moon walk. Laffy Kat Jul 2021 #12
The depressing thing is FoxNewsSucks Jul 2021 #17
This planet will be fine until the Sun will grow into a Red Giant... Justice matters. Jul 2021 #14
I remember getting up in the dark in Colorado to watch lift-offs Florida. rickyhall Jul 2021 #15
I assure you that if it becomes necessary to "flee" Dan Jul 2021 #18
Oh, Atticus, we will perish here. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #19
The price tag is a lot lower than Space X Warpy Jul 2021 #20
Sorry gilligan Jul 2021 #21
A great moment indeed... WarGamer Jul 2021 #22
His spaceship looked like Buck Rogers' kentuck Jul 2021 #23

Blue Dawn

(892 posts)
1. I recall a similar memory.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

I watched every bit of the flight today and found it thrilling!

I was mesmerized. What Branson has accomplished is impressive. It was a joy to watch today.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
11. Humanity would be getting off easy if we could claim that the end of the world wasn't our fault.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jul 2021

 
?

That way, it could be argued that there was no real need to worry about climate change or preserving natural resources.

No, if the world is going to end one way or another, it would be more satisfying to see us get what T. S. Eliot predicted:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
16. When I think of what motivates billionaires,
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jul 2021

I think more about this movie





A nice pristine environment for them, a polluted world for the rest of us.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
8. And in 1500 it was only billionaires
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jul 2021

Exploring the New World. In 1700, it was billionaires opening the Americas - Pennsylvania was a proprietary colony!

Is it optimal, no, but the ultrawealthy have always been at the front of new frontiers.

thucythucy

(8,048 posts)
24. Actually it was ordinary sailors who did the exploring
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jul 2021

and poorer people, indentured servants, and religious refugees who "opened" the Americas. The conquistadors were soldiers of fortune. The Pilgrims sold their homes and belongings to finance the trip, and when that didn't provide enough funding they went into debt.

The billionaires of the time--royalty such as Ferdinand and Isabella, King James, the various French Louis, didn't lift a finger except to sign various documents allowing for land they didn't own to be claimed in their name.

So I take issue with the notion that the "ultra wealthy have always been at the front of new frontiers."

Generally, they've been last in line in taking risks (other than financial) and creating genuine innovations, but first in line when it comes to exploiting the poor schmucks who do.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
3. Our elementary school class was marched into the gym
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jul 2021

and watched the launch on a black and white tv.

We've come a long way in the past 60 years.

Jack from Charlotte

(2,367 posts)
6. Admiral Shepard was not a Marine. He was a Navy aviator..
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:23 PM
Jul 2021

Naval Academy grad and US Navy. John Glenn was a Marine.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
10. My bad. I blame a classmate who bragged about it being a Marine "of course" who made the
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jul 2021

flight. He revered the Corps even in grade school and went on to win a Silver Star as a jarhead in Viet Nam.

But, you are correct. Shephard was Navy.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
4. It really was!
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:21 PM
Jul 2021

It's all very exciting. I'm able to sometimes just see the Florida launches, so as much as I dislike Musk, it's cool. The Virgin ship is also really cool.

hauckeye

(634 posts)
7. I was born in 1954 and I remember being confused about rocket launches as a child
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:25 PM
Jul 2021

I thought the rockets were making holes in the sky. I wondered if the next rocket would go through the same hole or make a new one 😂😂. I did smarten up later though 🤪

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
13. My elementary science teacher said that below escape velocity a rocket would hit an invisible wall.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jul 2021

 
?

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
12. When you think about it...66 years between Kitty Hawk and the moon walk.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:32 PM
Jul 2021

Humans are capable of amazing feats. We are also even more capable of really f*cking things up.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
17. The depressing thing is
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jul 2021

what we've done in the 52 years since.

Not nearly the level of advancement as that 66 years, and not just in the field of flight.

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
14. This planet will be fine until the Sun will grow into a Red Giant...
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021
Life as we know it, though, including our species... is on a bad path.

Crypto currencies are adding to the Climate Change problems...

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
15. I remember getting up in the dark in Colorado to watch lift-offs Florida.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jul 2021

Then after 1969 the press was no longer interested, it seemed.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
20. The price tag is a lot lower than Space X
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 02:38 PM
Jul 2021

so likely a lot of fat cats will be taking the carnival ride of a lifetime. It's lowe enough that people with incurable cancer and a bucket list can sell that paid for house and afford a trip.

The one I always wanted to try was the U-2 plane. Those flights were long, high, and spectacular.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
22. A great moment indeed...
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jul 2021

And I'm thrilled.

But btw... the planet is already fucked. It's too late. The best we can do is prepare for and mitigate what's to come.

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