Going too far with the statue removals?

[Goodheart]

Charlottesville abruptly removes monument to Lewis and Clark (whereupon Sacajawea is also depicted, crouching behind them as a tracker).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/charlottesville-abruptly-removes-statue-of-lewis-clark-and-sacagawea/ar-AAM1FoB?ocid=uxbndlbing

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. How is it going "too far"?

The depiction was seen as subservient.

[Goodheart]

2. I recognize that point, but it also means that she was important to their success.

I see talent and dignity there, too.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. Yeah you're right the sculptor couldn't possibly have shown her leading or teaching Lewis and Clark;

the only option was having her crouch down, eyes downcast, as a tertiary figure, as befitting Natives and women involved in the important business of white men on military intelligence operations.

[Goodheart]

6. Nice try putting words into my mouth

Of course the sculptor and the city could have made a monument to Sacajawea as teacher, instead of to Lewis and Clark as expeditioners.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. But they didn't, and some people said they didn't like what *was* there, and the city agreed.

[pandr32]

8. I agree

The fact that she was important enough to be included in the artist's depiction speaks volumes. Her work as a tracker was important to the success of the expedition.

[grantcart]

15. She was examining the ground for tracks

[Yonnie3]

3. Abrubtly? They voted to remove that statue in 2019.

City council voted to remove that statue in 2019.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/charlottesville-votes-to-remove-another-statue-and-more-controversy-follows/2019/11/29/fe6a53fe-0fda-11ea-bf62-eadd5d11f559_story.html

Charlottesville votes to remove another statue, and more controversy follows
By
Joe Heim
November 29, 2019

CHARLOTTESVILLE — When the Charlottesville City Council voted this month to remove a prominent statue depicting Meriwether Lewis, William Clark and Sacagawea from the city’s downtown core, it marked the third time in three years the city acted to banish a long-standing statue it determined to be divisive, a vestige of racism or culturally insensitive.

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[Voltaire2]

5. Not according to her surviving relatives

and the local Native Americans.

The Charlottesville City Council voted in November 2019 to remove the statue from its location, a decision "cheered by the local Native American tribe, the Monacan Indian Nation, and descendants of Sacagawea’s family in Idaho. They said the statue presented a weak and servile image of Sacagawea, who was rather an essential guide and interpreter for Lewis and Clark.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea

[Goodheart]

7. I would have voted according to their wishes.

[questionseverything]

10. In a hundred years she will be lost to history

A sentence or two in a three inch book

Remembered by the ap class geeks

[Yonnie3]

14. The "abruptly" made vote was to use excess funds

The crew and equipment that removed the Lee and Jackson statues finished early and it was a money saving idea to do it while they were here.

Rose Ann Abrahamson a descendant of Sacagawea spoke briefly to the council yesterday before the vote. She still feels that the statue should be destroyed and is not sure that it can be re-contextualized to be acceptable to her.

[BannonsLiver]

9. Pretty sure all statues are eventually coming down

Traitors like Lee should have never been immortalized that way. But MLK, Roosevelt (both), Lincoln all had their flaws. Eventually it will be decided that no one man or woman deserves to be glorified that way.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Bring the day.

[Croney]

11. I think all statues are creepy anyway.

I wouldn't get rid of any antiquities, but I'd curb all future erections. Of statues.

[Klaralven]

16. It's one thing that Islam has right. No statues or paintings of people.

[Effete Snob]

17. Turtle Boy in Worcester, Mass. though...

All towns should have a Turtle Boy.