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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe question keeping Trump-loving men up at night: Why won't women date us?
Now the incels add political "discrimination" to their list of grievances. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
Its true: A growing number of Americans are increasingly intolerant of racial, gender, and sexual intolerance. Bigotry just isnt sexy, and few people seek partners who dont acknowledge their full humanity. But for Kaufmann, the fault lies not with the people who hold noxious views, but with those who have the temerity to not want to get naked with them. His solution? If you cant date, legislate. After identifying right-wing conservatives as a small and declining political minority in elite institutions, he calls for institutional remedies to prioritize this minority, writing, Those on the right, along with freedom-minded allies on the left, will have to use government and the law to limit institutional autonomy just enough to protect individual freedoms.
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Of course, conservatives have repeatedly shown a willingness to dispense with their core principles when market forces turn against them. And Ross Douthat and Robin Hanson prove that when access to sex is at stake, conservatives get downright socialist real fast. What enrages these men isnt the lack of opportunities for romantic discussions of marginal tax rates and defunding Medicare; its that women can choose what they do with their bodies, and with whom they do it. Progressive authoritarianism is simply a new name for the same kinds of fearmongering rhetoric that already drives conservative positions on abortion access, birth control, childcare, gender identity, and more, and no amount of academic jargon and economic bloviating can conceal it.
Most of us learn early in life that you cant bully someone into liking you, that not all desire is reciprocal, and that we can all learn from self-examination. Those who apparently havent should keep this important dating tip in mind: When a critical mass of people find your values regressive, your political beliefs inhumane, and your political hero repellent, its not them. Its you.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/question-keeping-trump-loving-men-night-why-won-t-women-ncna1273594
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What a joke! There is literally no such thing. It only exists in their tiny little pea brains.
Sorry guys, but if women find you repugnant, that's on you. We aren't DOING anything to you, other than reacting to your repulsive viewpoints and behaviors. Go find an incel chat room to whine in.
LuckyLib
(6,814 posts)to figure out if a guy has one. Thinking women will look elsewhere.
AZ8theist
(5,339 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,171 posts)For instance, the desire of some on the left to criminalize so-called "hate speech" is one example. To one degree or another, some of the ideas proposed for wealth redistribution could be called authoritarian. The idea of "safe spaces" is authoritarian on its face, as well. Some of the more extreme gun control proposals could be called authoritarian, depending on where one falls in that particular debate. Then there are the trivial things, like mandating that stores can't sell soda cups larger than 32 ounces (or whatever it was), examples of the so-called "nanny state."
The difference is that those views are generally held by some subset of progressives rather than being a major part of a platform. To some extent any government is authoritarian in that they tell citizens "you can do X, you can't do Y." Conservative governments tend to be much more restrictive, and therefore more authoritarian, than progressive governments, though.
PortTack
(32,606 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)By and large, they're assholes.
Why would a respectable woman/girl date them?
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)...not very bright.
bahboo
(16,234 posts)this is just pathetic. It's because you're assholes. Women generally don't like assholes, so try not being one....
kimbutgar
(20,882 posts)When she met him at the restaurant they talked politics and she found out he was a raging right winger. She got up from the table and left before they ordered. He kept texting her to try to meet up again and she blocked him. She said she wanted a boyfriend but not that bad!
iemanja
(53,003 posts)just crosses the line. You know the person lacks basic decency if he voted for Trump.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)women are too smart to touch it
peacefreak2.0
(1,023 posts)Yeah. Not so much. 😡
vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)Poor little boys. Good thing I'm gonna be a full blown lesbian transwoman
iemanja
(53,003 posts)an enjoyable read.
machoneman
(3,952 posts)...as the mere mention of Democrats, Chicago's mayor, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Hunter, Hillary et al....send him into a towering rage (not loud but lengthy) against all that don't genuflect to Trumpy. I really don't think he gets why the women he tries to date, after a 1st meet-up, drop him like a stone. Oddly enough, even some right leaning women we all know have mentioned to him that unless he's being really clear up front he's a Trump sycophant (he won't) he'll continue to have massive turn downs.
Clueless, indeed, when you think all the world adores Trumpy but hate all Democrats.
Btw, I do know on Match.com and other major dating sites many women, and for some time now, clearly state they will not even respond to Trumpers! Too icky for sure.......bwahahahah!
gay texan
(2,405 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,044 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)
Seriously, 65% of college educated women are Democratic or lean Democratic vs. college educated men at 48%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/18/men-and-women-in-the-u-s-continue-to-differ-in-voter-turnout-rate-party-identification/
Maybe they could meet a nice girl at church!
iemanja
(53,003 posts)but most women overall.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,044 posts)Among the college educated, 65% of women favor Democrats vs. 48% of men. In those with less than a college education, 51% of women identify as Democrats vs only 40% of men. Republicans have made the biggest gains in the last 10 years among white men without a college education.
One more thing we have going for us is that across the board, in all races and all levels of educational attainment, women actually show up to the polls more often than men by about 3 to 4%. 40 years ago they were dead even.
COL Mustard
(5,783 posts)Perfect place to find a handmaiden!
machoneman
(3,952 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,425 posts)Hey, Kaufman; the train left the station, has jumped the tracks, while on a mountainside.
This ridiculous rhetoric of yours is going to change nothing.
Idiotic loser!
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)meadowlander
(4,358 posts)Nothing gets the ladies going like a man who makes all of his problems about her instead.
getagrip_already
(14,250 posts)Why would a prospective partner care if you tell them they are just dumb cows, that their opinions are stupid and need to reflect yours, and they shouldn't be in the workforce? Why would anyone care if you belittle, discriminate against, or get violent with people based on their skin color or heritage? Why would anyone care that you spew lies and hatred? Why?
I don't get it either. It must be those damn dems. They got you. They own you.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I'm thoroughly shocked. Wait. Nope, "shocked" isn't the word I was looking for.
keithbvadu2
(36,369 posts)Ask MT Greene. She has been known to be flexible on those marriage vows.
gay texan
(2,405 posts)They honestly wonder why women wont date them.......
Evolve Dammit
(16,632 posts)berniesandersmittens
(11,323 posts)I find absolutely nothing attractive about a trump supporter or evangelical "christians"
NBachers
(17,007 posts)3825-87867
(827 posts)try dating their other hand. Variety IS the spice of life!
keithbvadu2
(36,369 posts)conservative women attractive? -
liberal women ugly?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Marcuse
(7,399 posts)InCels feel quite entitled to sex. Pathetic, you are entitled to breathe, eat, have a place to sleep maybe. You are entitled to take your carcass out the front door and make the most of it, regardless of how low your SMV, if you did that, and were an authentic representation of yourself, your condition would ultimately get cured.
Which brings me to a critical point. I do not support or condone the professional sex worker but InCels as in Involuntarily Celibate, never mention hiring a professional sex worker. If you need your sex for free, may I give you a reality check. Sex is never free. Free Love does not exist. Or if it does, it is so effin rare as to be a unicorn. In which case InCels need to clue up and get real. Nobody is entitled to a unicorn.
[link:https://medium.com/@largerthanyourhead/incels-only-exist-in-jail-or-the-morgue-a240b6785160|
bucolic_frolic
(42,676 posts)Unbelievable. You just can't make this stuff up.
MenloParque
(505 posts)I know lots of female brainwashed sheep. One thing they have in common is they believe in some fairy tale of a white hippy in a robe. It would be nice if some of these female sheep throw them a mercy fuck so they be less likely to storm the capitol and plot a coup. I know we cant force anyone to fuck these losers so yeah.
treestar
(82,383 posts)According to the underlying article, the writer wants political conservatives to be recognized as a minority that should get civil rights protections!
Can anything be done about the political intolerance and discrimination that is bleeding from campus into knowledge work more broadly? Yes, but only with a crusade for political civil rights based on three core policies.
First, free-speech rights need to be protected to the fullest extent of the law. Employers should not be permitted to fire employees for legally protected speech unless the firing is justified by the core aims of the organization and authorized in an employees contract. Clearly, speech restrictions are justifiable for CIA agents or the civil service, but not for Twitter employees. As per European law, and as adjudicated in the Redfearn v. U.K. (2012) case, lawmakers should take care to draft this legislation so, before employees can be dismissed, the employer must prove that their beliefs significantly compromise their ability to perform their jobs.
Second, employees should be given the same level of protection against political discrimination as they have against other forms of discrimination. Bias should be justifiable only for explicitly political organizations. Legislators and courts would need to define terms tightly, with enough leeway for the Democratic Party to discriminate against Republicans in hiring, but not enough to let elite institutions discriminate against those critical of affirmative action or diversity by requiring political loyalty tests such as diversity statements.
I thought that the conservative solution would be to make their own google, facebook - the capitalist way. Now they want to redefine them as common carriers.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/07/12/political-discrimination-as-civil-rights-struggle/
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bringthePaine
(1,726 posts)Aussie105
(5,214 posts)"Most of us learn early in life that you cant bully someone into liking you, that not all desire is reciprocal, and that we can all learn from self-examination."
ZonkerHarris
(24,156 posts)ZonkerHarris
(24,156 posts)cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)into little more than property as well.
iemanja
(53,003 posts)and ending reproductive rights is a key step.
nycbos
(6,033 posts)... I was saw a dating profile that said "I love Jesus and Donald Trump" goes without saying I swiped left. My biggest conflicts come if she is on one hand cute and a Democrat but on the other hand wearing a Patriots jersey.
WVreaper
(618 posts)they don't want to date narcissistic assholes.
iemanja
(53,003 posts)over their shared victimization complex?
Demobrat
(8,917 posts)Maybe you would like to explain why they wont date you either?
Marcus Pullarius
(32 posts)Hell, even a Tasmanian Devil can get laid. Incels are simply unf*ckable. Natural selection is shouting at them and they won't listen. - just a thought-
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,452 posts)Rather die than date a conservative incel.
Because I will not tolerate being abused.
Been there done that.
Got several psych diagnosis to prove it.
If I somehow dated a conservative incel I would be dead or he would be.
I don't date anymore.
Sick of bad people.
Don't want to deal with bad people can't stand them.I have a sense that goes off when I meet people,like an asshole detector. When it goes off I leave the situation I trust my intuition above all regarding bad people.
So I find peace in avoiding certain people,and in dating nobody.
On a side note..
Too many people have either fetishes ,a fascination or hatred of transpeople.
It grosses me out and pisses me off when people ask me repeatedly anything about my previous gender. Or don't want to use my pronouns/ identity as a trans feline.
A mistake is one thing,do it again after I tell you,that's assholery.
I totally am not ok with that.