I imagine most of the anti-vaxxers are pro-Trump and anti-abortion. Has it occurred to any of them

[LaMouffette]

that if they don't get vaccinated and then get Covid and transmit it to a pregnant woman who dies or miscarries, that they themselves have performed an abortion?

It's pretty well documented that these people care not one whit about the lives of adults and children who have already been born, but I wonder if this would give any of them pause.

It just kills me, their hypocrisy. They are fighting like mad to overturn Roe v. Wade and deny women the right to decide what they do with their bodies, while at the same time they are claiming that the government has no right to interfere with what they themselves decide to do with their bodies (e.g., not to get vaxxed and not to wear a mask).

[SoCalDavidS]

1. I Had An Answer To Your Query Before Opening The Thread

NO!!!!!!

They are FAR TOO STUPID for something logical to occur to them.

They're Morons!

[dewsgirl]

4. And they only believe what fits the narrative they want

to believe.

[Yavin4]

7. And then only seek out those information sources that confirms their narrative.

while dismissing any information that contradicts their narrative.

[dewsgirl]

11. 1000 percent this.

[not fooled]

15. It's god's will

that's prolly what they would say, to evade responsibility.

[hlthe2b]

2. Anti-Abortion is more about controlling WOMEN than it is about ensuring live births.

If that were not the case we'd see one hell of a lot more concern for children post-birth instead of the willingness to turn a blind eye to abuse and childhood poverty.

So, I don't think they give a damn beyond their ridiculous false theory that vaccines cause sterility. Now that they will care about--at least among white Republicans.

[LiberalLoner]

5. Exactly. They don't actually care about the unborn, they just care about punishing and controlling

Women.

[ShazzieB]

20. Exactly.

It's about controlling and punishing all those brazen huskies who have the unmitigated gall to have sex for any reason other than procreation.

I've heard anti-choicers say abortion is a way to avoid taking responsibility for one's actions. I always thought terminating an unwanted pregnancy rather than bringing a child one is unable to provide for into the world was a responsible choice. But in their minds, having sex outside of marriage, or any time that one is not ready, willing, and able to raise a child, is an irresponsible act, the "consequences" of which are having a baby, and how dare those sluts not accept that?

[Yavin4]

9. It's really about making sure that White women reproduce with White men.

They really don't care about abortions for other races. They would be fine with a bill that denies White women the right to have an abortion, but gives that right to all other races of women.

[hlthe2b]

10. I made that point in my post as well, but the two are not mutually exclusive.

[Escurumbele]

13. There is more and the book Freakonomics by Steven Levitt, Stephen J. Dubner explains it very well

The thing is that most of the people who go into the military come from low economic areas, and that is also where most of the abortions occur, of course we don't know about the abortions that occur from the families of the 1% because they keep those hidden, but in general that s where they come from.

So this anti-abortion thing has to do more with making sure the military will have people signing to "fight for their country" than anything else.

I bet that if an investigation were done about republican politicians, that a great percent of them have been involved in at least one abortion at some point in time. Imagine how many abortions trump the buffoon may have been involved in.

[Moostache]

16. Agreed - 100%

There is no such thing as "pro-life". Anyone who EVER says that is lying. They might be "pro-birth-as-punitive-treatment-for-sluts-who-have-sex", but they are absolutely not "pro-life" in ANY way.

The anti-abortion Kabuki theater of the absurd is all about controlling women and propping up the patriarchy of the past as some kind of twisted ideal. They care about babies as much as I care about Tsetse flies...

[demigoddess]

3. that would require a working brain!

[d_r]

6. Back when they

Were complaining about "obamacare" I asked one how they could be against access to medical care when we know for a fact that pre natal care was linked to lower miscarriage rates. Their response was that it wasn't their responsibility.

Authoritarian followers have such compartmentalized thinking they can't even grasp their hypocrisy.

[GoodRaisin]

8. Yep, they've been convinced to think backwards.

Pretty amazing.

[multigraincracker]

12. If they worship TFG, then I wonder if it ever occurred to them

they might infect their wife and their girlfriend?

[IronLionZion]

14. They're too busy spreading lies about the vaccines

using stem cells from aborted fetuses and all sorts of dangerous things happening to pregnant women who take the vaccine other than passing antibodies on to their babies.

[Sherman A1]

17. Don't look for the logic

you will just hurt your head.

[ailsagirl]

19. They don't know the meaning of the word 🥴

[Sherman A1]

24. They have an alternate logic

that goes along with the post-factual world in which they live.

[ailsagirl]

26. It's true -- I don't know how else to explain it 🤪

[LaMouffette]

18. Thanks to everyone who responded to my post! Just thought of something ELSE that chaps my hide:

The few conservatives I used to socialize with (pre-Covid) strongly believe in individual responsibility. So of course they demonize anyone on welfare or anyone getting any kind of social assistance.

Apparently that value, along with caring for the unborn (if that's what anti-abortion is really about, as some posters pointed out), has also been cast aside by anti-vaxxers, who are not doing the responsible thing and doing everything they can to avoid getting Covid. They are the real burden on society, and an actual menace to society in this time of Covid.

Okay, gotta go decompress!

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Yes that must be part of their mental trickery, do one thing then push opposite on others

especially the libs!!

[Mr. Evil]

22. The term 'Christian'

implies 'Christ-like.' Simply meaning to live according to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Of course, with these christians of today (pretty much like yesteryear, too) they have co-opted that religious identifier out of social expediency. They think it means that they are better than you, me or everyone else that doesn't identify as 'christian' (also, especially if you're non-white). Their sole objective is to destroy any and all things considered secular and/or non-christian.

We all know abortion is not about life in any sense. Their objection to abortion (to be honest, they don't really object to abortion - a lot of them probably have had one or more abortions) is simply an opportunity to destroy. Human right, personal autonomy, call it what you like but, the issue is a hot button and they've gladly attached themselves to it. And, once again, we all know it's about control. Christians want control. Not just of women but, everything in this country. They want to destroy it under the guise of freedom because they hate actual freedom. Their example of freedom is that they get whatever they want and everyone else gets to be told what to think, what to wear, what to eat, where to go, when to go, who to marry (of course there's no more LGBTQ considerations - they'll be subjected to conversion therapy and if it's unsuccessful they'll be killed outright), what job you're allowed to have and where you have it and on and on...

I could go on and make this into a book but, I like to keep things simple. Religion, especially the christian variety, is as useless as Super Bowl tickets the day after. If you feel the need for some spirituality, find a method of relating to that that suits you, personally. No need to join a club (cult) and it's free. Any guidance you need is in the golden rule. It's that simple and easily put into practice from the moment you implement it. You don't have to sacrifice your personal identity, your personal traits, your personal neurology and you don't have to perform regular rituals and ceremonies for appearances. Oh, and if you do feel the need to pray you can still do it. In private just like the bible says.

In short (I know, I know) christians want to bring back the crusades (and the brutality), v. 2.0 and must be stopped.

[LaMouffette]

25. I'm with you, Mr. Evil. i'm okay with any religion that truly promotes love and tolerance.

The rest of them, in my opinion, are solely about power and control.

[tanyev]

23. Their only interest in unborn babies they are not personally connected to

is as a political cudgel, so, no. This would give very few of them pause.