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jalan48

(13,859 posts)
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 04:47 PM Jul 2021

Billionaire Tax Cheat Travels to Space for a Few Minutes

It isn’t often that we see a New York Times paragraph so freighted with syrup and honeyed goo, but there it was on Sunday afternoon, like something you’d order at IHOP to beat back a hangover: “Soaring more than 50 miles into the hot, glaringly bright skies above New Mexico, Richard Branson at last fulfilled a dream that took decades to realize: He can now call himself an astronaut.”

Better lede: “Fulfilling his desire to beat a fellow billionaire into the lowest verge of space, notorious tax cheat Richard Branson burned some of the money he owes his home country in order to fling himself past the troposphere so he could experience weightlessness for as much time as it takes to make a decent bowel movement. An achievement that will go down in corporate history, Branson now holds bragging rights over the guy whose monopolies are eating the economy alive.”

Space travel used to be about “us,” a collective effort by the country to reach beyond previously unreachable limits. That was the Cold War propaganda, anyway, and it had an unavoidable allure. Now, it’s about “them,” the 0.1 percent who hide their fortunes and use those revenues to give their egos a televised tongue-bath in zero-g, followed by a gala event suffused with celebrities. Space exploration is now a plaything for those who already exist in an alien atmosphere. I’m pretty sure Chuck Yeager would not be impressed.

William Rivers Pitt

https://truthout.org/articles/billionaire-tax-cheat-travels-to-space-for-a-few-minutes

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Billionaire Tax Cheat Travels to Space for a Few Minutes (Original Post) jalan48 Jul 2021 OP
+++++++ PortTack Jul 2021 #1
Makes you wonder why any businessman invested in building commercial aircraft... brooklynite Jul 2021 #2
When you fly in an airplane you have a destination, panader0 Jul 2021 #28
Sure would be silly if people got on a cruise ship and sailed around in a circle. brooklynite Jul 2021 #46
Seems like you're missing the point. panader0 Jul 2021 #47
Depends on the cruise... brooklynite Jul 2021 #48
Here's a link to some cruises to Nowhere Captain Stern Jul 2021 #64
I sure wish this was NASA and not a guy so rich he could just about solve world hunger instead. tecelote Jul 2021 #39
Well.... SergeStorms Jul 2021 #42
What trail blazing technology did he use? brooklynite Jul 2021 #45
Looks like you are. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #53
Heroic? No. Innovative? Yes. brooklynite Jul 2021 #56
Please. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #58
How exactly would the $5.7 billion he is worth "solve world hunger"? EX500rider Jul 2021 #51
That's some good writing! Sogo Jul 2021 #3
Yes, made me laugh out loud. jalan48 Jul 2021 #5
Excellent writing, as always. Owl Jul 2021 #44
William Rivers Pitt? Hoyt Jul 2021 #4
I'm still not clear on why he was run out of town. yonder Jul 2021 #16
Telling us how he preferred Jill Stein to Hilliary Clinton? NNadir Jul 2021 #26
That should do it alright. yonder Jul 2021 #32
Three words, "Used car salesman." joshcryer Jul 2021 #41
Three more words; SergeStorms Jul 2021 #43
Kickin' for Truth Faux pas Jul 2021 #6
Branson is sort of a latter-day Howard Hughes, although more rational Klaralven Jul 2021 #7
Time will tell us whether Branson is an astro-naut or an astro-nut. abqtommy Jul 2021 #8
Listen to the Cheatles tirebiter Jul 2021 #9
Cheatles??? What is that about? Escurumbele Jul 2021 #13
The Beatles protesting paying taxes under both Labor and Conservative governments tirebiter Jul 2021 #49
Isn't rivers supposed to be banned from this site? brush Jul 2021 #10
I didn't know he was on this site. This is something he wrote for an online news outlet. jalan48 Jul 2021 #11
His work is banned. No work-arounds. brush Jul 2021 #12
His work? Sounds pretty serious. When was he banned? jalan48 Jul 2021 #14
Attacking Obama and calling him a POS because he blamed him because his mate got sick... brush Jul 2021 #18
Sounds like a long time ago. I don't remember him and I've been since 2011. I think this piece jalan48 Jul 2021 #23
You're saying you're going against a ruling made on this site by admin? brush Jul 2021 #27
I haven't followed every ruling by admin. Sorry. jalan48 Jul 2021 #29
Then alert the mods rpannier Jul 2021 #40
Tuesday, August 9, 2016. George II Jul 2021 #21
He WAS on this site. He wrote this for an online "news" outlet, too: George II Jul 2021 #30
If I can forgive Democratic Governor Ralph Northam for voting for Bush and Cheney twice I guess jalan48 Jul 2021 #35
It wasn't just that statement, there were many. His most "famous", or infamous, was calling.... George II Jul 2021 #38
He also threatened to beat up a homeless DUer, for which he was banned. NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #55
He also threatened Texasgal Jul 2021 #59
OFerKrissakes . . . . please delete that pitstain's crap Stinky The Clown Jul 2021 #15
But it's a great commentary piece. TheRickles Jul 2021 #19
Doesn't mean he's wrong on this. paleotn Jul 2021 #25
+1000 Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #17
From "I Wanna Be A Boss" by Stan Ridgeway 1990 Dirty Socialist Jul 2021 #20
Mesosphere Aviation Pro Jul 2021 #22
Will sure hasn't lost his touch. trof Jul 2021 #24
Wait what. Vacations in space? The Jungle 1 Jul 2021 #31
He is not a US citizen, is a resident of the British Virgin Islands and a UK citizen.. EX500rider Jul 2021 #52
He does more as a percentage of income and wealth? The Jungle 1 Jul 2021 #60
0.1%. Hardly 0.1% would be WONDERFUL fescuerescue Jul 2021 #33
That's one small leap for a billionaire... LudwigPastorius Jul 2021 #34
unlimited money does not mean you you can do whatever you want RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #36
Richard Branson has no formal education... HipChick Jul 2021 #37
People are going to really freak out when billionaires start building their own space stations. ripcord Jul 2021 #50
Nah..... SergeStorms Jul 2021 #54
Richard Branson defies death! VGNonly Jul 2021 #57
LOL Bad writing. betsuni Jul 2021 #61
Megamansions and gigantic yachts used to be signs of status among the superwealthy. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2021 #62
All the millions and maybe millions he spent on that flight fescuerescue Jul 2021 #63

panader0

(25,816 posts)
28. When you fly in an airplane you have a destination,
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:55 PM
Jul 2021

either business or personal, but you don't return to the same place you took off from.
Back when rich businessmen invested in commercial airplanes, they paid much higher
taxes than they do today. I believe Bezos, perhaps the richest of all, paid no taxes, not
even as much as a waitress.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
46. Sure would be silly if people got on a cruise ship and sailed around in a circle.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jul 2021

Imagine traveling to a National Park and then coming home?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
47. Seems like you're missing the point.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jul 2021

Doesn't the cruise ship stop at various ports? Or does it just sail out a few miles, turn circles and then
come home? Driving, cruising or flying, you have a destination. Heck, your trip might even take a week
or two. Quite a bit different from a short flight to the sky and returning back to the same place.
To me anyway.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
64. Here's a link to some cruises to Nowhere
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.cruisecheap.com/cruises/cruise-to-nowhere-cruises.html

On a discount Cruise to Nowhere, the ship is the destination. You won't visit any ports, but rather have two to three days to relax, unplug, and explore all the bells and whistles the ship has to offer.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
39. I sure wish this was NASA and not a guy so rich he could just about solve world hunger instead.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jul 2021

His wealth is obscene when children go hungry in America.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
42. Well....
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:37 PM
Jul 2021

he did use all of NASA'S trail blazing technology. So I guess when you duplicate something NASA did 60 years ago...... everyone is supposed to treat you like some kind of hero, and make a big fuss over it?

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
45. What trail blazing technology did he use?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jul 2021

And who is treating him like a hero? He's developing a new business and proving that it's successful.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
53. Looks like you are.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jul 2021

Defending his wonderful "business", that only other wealthy people will be able to afford. Oh, that's right......he did say they were going to donate two tickets so some lucky individuals could be "astronauts", just like him. Two people out of the 7.9 billion currently inhabiting our planet. What a mensch.

And if you don't recognize that NASA did all the original calculations and materials certification for every aspect of space travel, well......... I don't have anything else to say. Branson's 50.2 mile "exploration of space" is like having a layover at LAX and saying you've been to Los Angeles.

But you keep defending "astronaut" Richard Branson, the amazing businessman. I imagine you have your ticket already booked, right? What's $250,000 for a chance to see the curvature of the earth?

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
56. Heroic? No. Innovative? Yes.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 12:03 AM
Jul 2021

Do I defend Branson? Yes, based on what he's accomplished with his other businesses (Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Rail, Virgin Blue, Virgin Records), and what he's been able to do in the FIRST launch for Virgin Galactic. It suggests a more promising future than using a computer or mobile phone (created by Billionaires, and initially used by wealthy people who could afford them) to post knee-jerk rants about income envy.

EX500rider

(10,839 posts)
51. How exactly would the $5.7 billion he is worth "solve world hunger"?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:18 PM
Jul 2021

The World Food Programme which is just one such NGO has a yearly budget of $8 billion and has not solved it.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
26. Telling us how he preferred Jill Stein to Hilliary Clinton?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

Our country was damaged, perhaps irreversibly because little weak brained holier than thou types, like Stein were OK with a flaming racist as long as the former Secretary of State wasn't seated in the office the majority of Americans voted for her to occupy.

Pitt's an ass who pretends to give a shit, but is too stupid to recognize that his smug poorly written whines are neither wit nor wisdom.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
32. That should do it alright.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jul 2021

If I remember, that was six or seven years ago - one day here, the next....not.

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
49. The Beatles protesting paying taxes under both Labor and Conservative governments
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:49 PM
Jul 2021

That was why they moved to the US. Same as the Rolling Stones.

brush

(53,767 posts)
18. Attacking Obama and calling him a POS because he blamed him because his mate got sick...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jul 2021

and didn't have healthcare, or some such foolishness that O had nothing to do with. It was big stink and he got banned.

You should delete ths.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
23. Sounds like a long time ago. I don't remember him and I've been since 2011. I think this piece
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jul 2021

is hilarious and worth sharing.

brush

(53,767 posts)
27. You're saying you're going against a ruling made on this site by admin?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jul 2021

I don't see how you missed it if you were here since 2011.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
35. If I can forgive Democratic Governor Ralph Northam for voting for Bush and Cheney twice I guess
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jul 2021

I can forgive Pitt for making that statement. But then, I'm a liberal.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. It wasn't just that statement, there were many. His most "famous", or infamous, was calling....
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:23 PM
Jul 2021

President Barack Obama a "piece of shit used car salesman".

You can forgive him for that, too, but not many here would. And we're all liberals.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
55. He also threatened to beat up a homeless DUer, for which he was banned.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:59 PM
Jul 2021

Then he was allowed to return after an 'apology'

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
20. From "I Wanna Be A Boss" by Stan Ridgeway 1990
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:44 PM
Jul 2021

“And grow long nails like Fu Manchu
Keep a long row of specimen jars
Get other people to work for me
And maybe I’ll buy the planet Mars
And Build an amusement park up there
Better than ol’ Walt’s place
You’ll have to be a billionaire to go
We’ll smoke cigars and lounge in lace
Talk the talk of businessmen and bosses that we are
So here’s to me
The drinks are free
‘Cuz I just bought this bar”

trof

(54,256 posts)
24. Will sure hasn't lost his touch.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:47 PM
Jul 2021

Good to see his writing again.
I guess he went head-to-head with an admin or something.
He's very passionate about his work.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
31. Wait what. Vacations in space?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jul 2021

Children in America are hungry. These tax cheats fly to space for what reason? What is the scientific goal? How will it help America?
Children in America are hungry.

EX500rider

(10,839 posts)
52. He is not a US citizen, is a resident of the British Virgin Islands and a UK citizen..
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:22 PM
Jul 2021

Why would he be feeding kids in the US?
Plus he does more then the rest of us here put together:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Branson#Humanitarian_initiatives

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
60. He does more as a percentage of income and wealth?
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:05 AM
Jul 2021

Children are hungry all over the world.

As I bet you are aware Branson pledged 3 billion for climate change and has not come up with the money. His airline has increased it's emissions.

He is using US infrastructure and pays no taxes. He avoids taxes here and in the UK by living on an island.

I cannot really judge Branson without more research which I don't feel like doing. However climate change is the biggest problem facing the world. Don't tease us.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
33. 0.1%. Hardly 0.1% would be WONDERFUL
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

0.1% would be 350,000 astronauts. We would be on the verge of it becoming accessible for everyone. Most of us would know at least 1 astronaut or at least be an acquaintance

If we had 0.1% going into space, we would have a space launch about every 24 business hours.


LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
34. That's one small leap for a billionaire...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jul 2021

one…giant leap for the 0.1 percent in their dick measuring contests.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
36. unlimited money does not mean you you can do whatever you want
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jul 2021

But in this age it does... Damn we are screwed living as we are living

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
37. Richard Branson has no formal education...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 07:14 PM
Jul 2021

Good for him...

The entity at fault is the UK gov..they allow the loopholes

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
62. Megamansions and gigantic yachts used to be signs of status among the superwealthy.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

Now, you have to have your own space program.

The Right Stuff was a nostalgic look back at people that seemed like giants. Now, that movie would named simply Stuff.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
63. All the millions and maybe millions he spent on that flight
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jul 2021

All flows to middle class engineers and scientist.

We should encourage Branson to keep doing these until he's broke!

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