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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Texas Democrats Didn't FLEE! They are protesting.
All over the news media are statements like the "Democrats are fleeing Texas".
THEY ARE NOT FLEEING ANYTHING...they are PROTESTING.
Please don't let this pejorative become the fake/Orwellian reality.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Would you prefer avoiding arrest?
They werent safe where they were so they rushed to somewhere thats safe for them
thats the dictionary definition of flee.
It doesnt have to imply cowardice if theyre doing it intentionally and by design.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)And almost all the headlines in Google news this morning are using "flee" or "fled". And Abbott is mentioning they fled in private jets.
Another poster mentioned the Oregon legislature and Idaho. When I google for news articles on that, some news articles use "flee", but other major ones are using "protest" or "walkout" or "disappear." By contrast, most of the major news sources I saw on Google news except CNN were using "flee".
Feel to respond if you want, but what I am referring to is a subtlety/nuance of language. I doubt we'll change each other's minds on semantics, but that's fine as you're not wrong to someone who understands what all this is about. I am more concerned about those who don't or, at most, read the headlines without understanding the reality of voter suppression.
I can already see how the Republicans will spin this: a bunch of liberals running away from their jobs on private planes. And using words like "flee" add to that spin that somehow it is the Dems that are doing something wrong.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Almost all of the Oregon articles that came up for me had Flee/Fled in the headline.
without understanding the reality of voter suppression.
They are indeed fighting for something noble... but at the same time making other Democrats look like hypocrites. If it isn't a battle that they can win (and it sure looks like it isn't), then they're harming the party's image without offsetting benefit.
The complaints are that the US Senate's filibuster allows for 40% (+1) of Senators to block legislation supported by the majority and that's "undemocratic"... yet in Texas we're celebrating an even smaller 33% (+1) in either the state House or Senate blocking legislation by the clear majority?
"Rules for me and not for thee" rarely sells well. The wording of some article title is tiny in comparison.
quakerboy
(13,918 posts)to prevent quorum and block all sorts of legislation in the past few years.. Were they also protesting?
forthemiddle
(1,378 posts)For what its worth, I have been in favor of keeping the filibuster in the Senate, and Im in favor of this move.
I realize they are two different rules (or maneuver in this case), so Im not playing whataboutism, Im just pointing out that rules set up to protect the minority are usually a good thing, even if it hurts us at times.
I just like to remind others that without the filibuster in the Senate we would have The Born Alive Bill, we would have a border wall, and going way back, we would have have private accounts for Social Security!
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Which adds extra irony since theyre reportedly trying to convince other Dems to kill a different form of filibuster - and one that is more legitimate and more democratic than they one theyre using.