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honeylady

(157 posts)
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:09 PM Jul 2021

True story about ramifications of being a right wing idiot

i live in San Diego. My roommate is a health worker at Kaiser. She has a colleague whose in-laws are right wingers who live in San Diego County. They are both anti-vaccers. They both got covid. The FIL has it bad and the MIL is still asymptomatic but has severe asthma so I guess its just a matter of time for her. The co-worker is pregnant and has a one year old son. Her husband has been vaccinated, but she and her son could not. The son now has covid after visiting his grandparents. So far she is okay. But imagine being pregnant and having to take care of a covid infected infant. The baby then infected her father who has been vaccinated but still got Covid, though thankfully a mild case. Her mother shows no symptoms. The in laws own a restaurant in San Diego. Who knows how many workers and customers they have infected.

Now another story about the crazy right wingers. My cousin is a Trump supporter, climate change denier, covid denier, anti-vaccer. She keeps sending me, and I'm sure everyone in her family, propaganda about how dangerous the covid vaccines are. She called yesterday to let me know that both her granddaughter and her boyfriend have covid, as well as his entire family. No one in her family is vaccinated. Her husband and ex-husband both have health problems. She doesn't believe in the Delta Variant, or in vaccines, or the death numbers because of course they have all been faked, or in the dangers of Covid. Very stupid woman. She told me that thousands and thousands of people have died from getting the vaccine. She told me that it would come out shortly how right she is and how wrong me and everyone who thinks like me are. God she's Effing stupid.

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True story about ramifications of being a right wing idiot (Original Post) honeylady Jul 2021 OP
Gene pool trying to self correct. vanlassie Jul 2021 #1
This scenario is probably a lot more common than we hear about PortTack Jul 2021 #2
I'm in San Diego as well.... sdfernando Jul 2021 #3
sdfernando.... Upthevibe Jul 2021 #48
I don't know the name of the restaurant. I'll see if I can find out n/t honeylady Jul 2021 #57
Idiots SCantiGOP Jul 2021 #4
If the Libs say yes,... You must say no,... And vice versa. magicarpet Jul 2021 #5
According to all RWNJs, everything is "about to come out" Freddie Jul 2021 #6
Don't forget the Durham Report and the Horowitz Handout. mwb970 Jul 2021 #9
And the Bowling Green report... lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #10
this is no laughing matter .. SarcasticSatyr Jul 2021 #45
"Ornament Hill" lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #46
So true. Ligyron Jul 2021 #12
They never figure out NJCher Jul 2021 #42
My mom was terrified of the New Black Panthers... then Death Panels... then Ebola... deurbano Jul 2021 #53
Police cars and sirens speeding to arrest Obama and Hillary! NBachers Jul 2021 #23
NBachers..... Upthevibe Jul 2021 #49
That is exactly what my r/w cousin told me. "You'll see soon that I'm right and you're wrong" honeylady Jul 2021 #58
They've been saying that for years now Freddie Jul 2021 #59
I hope the one year old gets better soon IronLionZion Jul 2021 #7
I'm planning a trip to San Diego in November dflprincess Jul 2021 #8
Seems to me it'd be useful info to have. calimary Jul 2021 #11
I'd be wary of any restaurant where wnylib Jul 2021 #17
It's not bad in San Diego - yet. haele Jul 2021 #20
The 7 day average in Chula Vista ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #33
Yes, just saw where it's going up in East County from last week. haele Jul 2021 #37
San Diego County went from ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #60
I live in San Diego too. This doesn't surprise me at all, I have friends and family who still don't chia Jul 2021 #13
As Darrell Issa said, "we're getting there"... czarjak Jul 2021 #14
Omg MLAA Jul 2021 #15
And that's the thing about those Fauz Noize idiots geardaddy Jul 2021 #18
... Fauz Noize Covidiots ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #35
Thanks! geardaddy Jul 2021 #52
Vaccination for pregnant woman people Jul 2021 #16
THIS! Steven Maurer Jul 2021 #27
I throwing a yellow flag from making too much sense ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #36
There's stupid, deadly stupid and then there's dead stupidly. Keep yourselves safe! marble falls Jul 2021 #19
The pregnant woman absolutely can be vaccinated. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #21
It's not entirely her fault. We're all dumber than we would normally be ffr Jul 2021 #22
Makes me think about that line "suck on this (bullet)", stupid" erronis Jul 2021 #25
Your post is so interesting to me NJCher Jul 2021 #43
Offer the D products to them, like D-Lead soaps and wipes. ffr Jul 2021 #51
Leaded AVGAS Is Finally Being Phased Out GB_RN Jul 2021 #56
This woman finally got it ...covid is real YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #24
The tragic thing is . . . Richard D Jul 2021 #34
Wow Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #26
Neither of my next door neighbors are vaxed traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #28
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #29
The whole "personal choice" defense is dumb. It's not like skydiving or shooting heroine. n/t Beartracks Jul 2021 #30
Ask her if the proof you are wrong KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #31
I'm in San Diego as well ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #32
Man I do know parts of San Diego County are red. Susan Calvin Jul 2021 #39
Here's what I really hate about stories like this. Susan Calvin Jul 2021 #38
I don't wish your cousin any harm, but taking the risks she is & having her entire family doing the napi21 Jul 2021 #40
Good Grief! I certainly hope that they shut down that business! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #41
#COVIDIOTS alterfurz Jul 2021 #44
There is no way I would have allowed my small child visit non vaccinated relatives alphafemale Jul 2021 #47
alphafemale... Upthevibe Jul 2021 #50
Republicans are stupid UCmeNdc Jul 2021 #54
There is also the people sending videos about a medicine for people who got the vaccine to take out Escurumbele Jul 2021 #55

PortTack

(32,606 posts)
2. This scenario is probably a lot more common than we hear about
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jul 2021

Damned anti vaxxers infecting innocent ppl

sdfernando

(4,896 posts)
3. I'm in San Diego as well....
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jul 2021

thankfully NOT in a RED area like Lakeside or Santee!

Anyway, what restaurant are you referring to so I can be sure NOT to go there. If you're not comfortable naming it here can you DM me?

Upthevibe

(7,879 posts)
48. sdfernando....
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021
I'm going to piggy back on your thread about the name of the restaurant as I'm in L.A. and go down to San Diego often.

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
4. Idiots
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:32 PM
Jul 2021

A hospital doctor told me about one woman who ended up signing a Do Not Resuscitate order because they wouldn't promise not to use the shock paddles on her in case her heart went into fibrillation during surgery.
She was convinced that the shock paddles were a ploy to kill sick people so Obamacare would not have to pay for sick patients.


So, yes, you can die of stupidity.

Freddie

(9,231 posts)
6. According to all RWNJs, everything is "about to come out"
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021

Just wait and see!
The stolen election!
Hunter Biden’s crimes!
Thousands dying from the vaccine!
Etc., etc.
I’m breathless with anticipation for the “truth” to come out!

SarcasticSatyr

(1,177 posts)
45. this is no laughing matter ..
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 09:19 AM
Jul 2021

I lost a cousin at the Bowling Green massacre, and one of my uncles died at the battle of Ornament hill during the war on Christmas. (sarcasm alert)

Ligyron

(7,592 posts)
12. So true.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jul 2021

Hannity and Tucker gin up another “scandal “ every couple weeks that always turns out to be a nothing burger.

You’d think they would have noticed this by now

deurbano

(2,891 posts)
53. My mom was terrified of the New Black Panthers... then Death Panels... then Ebola...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jul 2021

and of course, the Caravans! Doesn't seem to matter that the predicted Doomsday never arrives since they all have the attention spans of gnats. It's just on to the next one...

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
8. I'm planning a trip to San Diego in November
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jul 2021

Just, how bad is it there and what is the name of the restaurant?

calimary

(80,693 posts)
11. Seems to me it'd be useful info to have.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jul 2021

If I were planning a trip down there I sure would want to know!

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
17. I'd be wary of any restaurant where
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:06 PM
Jul 2021

I did not know the policies of the management and staff well. I am sure that the restaurant in the OP is not the only one where this kind of thing happens. All it takes is one employee.

haele

(12,581 posts)
20. It's not bad in San Diego - yet.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jul 2021

We'll know in a week, to see what the 4th of July tourists have done.

Haele

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
33. The 7 day average in Chula Vista ...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:38 PM
Jul 2021

almost quadrupled from 6/21 to 7/6

On 6/21 CV was averaging 4.43 infections per day over the previous 7 days.
On 7/6 CV is averaging 16.86 infections per day over the previous 7 days.

haele

(12,581 posts)
37. Yes, just saw where it's going up in East County from last week.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:53 PM
Jul 2021

At the command meeting today, they're talking about going back into lockdown with few exceptions. They were going to start alternating on-site teams in August.
Too many crowds and tourists.
Wasn't too bad before July 4th weekend; the county was pretty stable. I spoke a bit too late.

Haele

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
60. San Diego County went from ...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:32 AM
Jul 2021

7 day average of 108/day on 7/6/2021
to
7 day average of 257/day on 7/13/2021

That's 138% increase.

If you want statistics on your City in San Diego county, let me know.

chia

(2,235 posts)
13. I live in San Diego too. This doesn't surprise me at all, I have friends and family who still don't
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jul 2021

have the vaccine and have no plans to get it. Quite a few have gotten Covid because they continued to expose themselves at church, funerals, etc., and two who are younger still have lingering issues with their sense of taste, even over a year after. It makes me wonder if there are other long term effects to worry about with them, like did it affect their heart or pulmonary systems in a way that's lurking beneath the surface. One relative who thinks exactly like your cousin and has several mitigating health factors got it and didn't even go to the hospital and now she's more sure than ever...

I have existential despair.

czarjak

(11,191 posts)
14. As Darrell Issa said, "we're getting there"...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jul 2021

Gonna show me how right you are? That’ll be the day.

MLAA

(17,163 posts)
15. Omg
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

All I could think of in the first story is that the colleague allowed her child to spend time with non vaccinated grandparents while she was pregnant. Unless she literally had no choice because they were her child’s day care and she could not afford an alternative.

I do, unfortunately, understand what it’s like to have trumpidiot relatives. My dad and his wife are in assisted living in Florida. Both are vaccinated. He is an evangelical whose hero is Reagan, though I’m sure he voted slightly reluctantly though none the less for TFG. My brother is a college educated hypocritical evangelical idiot. My dad mentioned last night that my brother still has not been vaccinated and he couldn’t understand why not. I told him it’s because faux news fucker tucker told him it’s a hoax and vaccines are bad. I then suggested he tell my brother he could t visit them until he was fully vaccinated (though he rarely makes the 4 hour drive to visit). I was pleasantly surprised when my dad said he already told him he couldn’t come inside u til he was vaccinated. Then he told me my brother’s daughter recently recovered from covid.

geardaddy

(24,924 posts)
18. And that's the thing about those Fauz Noize idiots
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jul 2021

They're telling everyone to NOT get vaccinated, but you know they have gotten vaccinated themselves.

people

(612 posts)
16. Vaccination for pregnant woman
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

I believe vaccinations are recommended for pregnant woman. Her co-worker should check with her M.D. but I have heard on the news several times that the covid vaccine is safe and recommended for pregnant women.

Steven Maurer

(455 posts)
27. THIS!
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jul 2021

mRNA vaccines don't have any live virus in them at all. They work by tricking cells into producing spike proteins which are then expressed on the surface of the cells. Our body's immune system detects this, and starts producing antibodies for the spike proteins.

However the cells themselves get rid of the mRNA and return to being completely healthy. It's just that our body's immune system is primed to kill anything bearing a spike protein on it.

In other words, the vaccines are completely harmless.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,746 posts)
21. The pregnant woman absolutely can be vaccinated.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jul 2021

She should go ahead and do it.

As for your cousin, ask her to prove that "thousands and thousands of people have died from getting the vaccine." She can't, of course. But do encourage her not to seek medical help while she is sick. Maybe you can get her to make a will and have you as her sole heir.

ffr

(22,644 posts)
22. It's not entirely her fault. We're all dumber than we would normally be
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jul 2021

Depending on past and present exposure to lead, it's a fact that her brain just won't work normally.

Due to human exposure to airborne tetraethyl-lead, from leaded gasoline that is also in our food supply, our bodies will substitute lead when our diets are deficient in calcium and other minerals. The result is that our IQs are about 14 points lower than they would be otherwise. And a dumber human doesn't always make the right choices.

People that are around firearms or gun ranges are considered at higher risk too due to the lead aerosols emitted during firearm discharge. Civil aviation private pilots and their passengers are too, since AVGAS contains high levels of tetraethyl-lead and is still used today. Elevated blood lead concentrations take a detrimental toll on our internal organs, but also can change otherwise normal human behavior into that of someone who is aggressive and violent.

erronis

(14,942 posts)
25. Makes me think about that line "suck on this (bullet)", stupid"
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jul 2021

Why are all those people giving the sign for "fuck me"?

NJCher

(35,423 posts)
43. Your post is so interesting to me
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 03:13 AM
Jul 2021

I can recall a moment decades ago when all of a sudden I seemed to be encountering stupidity everywhere I looked. One could ask a question of a stranger (such as about directions) and nobody knew anything.

I said to myself that surely this is a fluke.

But no, it wasn’t. I continued with my observations. I would ask questions of clerks in stores. Nobody knew nuttin’. I gradually got used to it and devised other means for answering questions.

It occurred to me a long time ago that this might be an explanation. I hadn’t thought about this in years.

I remember back then that at a certain point this stupidity and ineptitude would affect our leadership. And sure enough—tonight it is being revealed that neither trump OR pence knew the difference between the National Guard and the Army. Think of the disaster that would have been (June 6).

ffr

(22,644 posts)
51. Offer the D products to them, like D-Lead soaps and wipes.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jul 2021

D-Lead Hand Soap quickly and efficiently removes heavy metal dusts, lead and contaminants from the skin and hands.


Unfortunately, while this product can cleans away lead on your skin, your clothes and your lungs and the resulting increase in blood lead levels won't be so easy.

GB_RN

(2,267 posts)
56. Leaded AVGAS Is Finally Being Phased Out
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

According the this article, it was supposed to have been phased out by 2018 (article dates from 2013).

Note for those who aren't familiar with the term: AVGAS is not the same as what's used in commercial airplanes. AVGAS is only used in small, piston engine aircraft. Commercial aircraft use jet fuel.

According to Wikipedia, AVGAS is the most common piston engine fuel for small aircraft in Europe also, but because it's insanely expensive, efforts are underway to convert to diesel, which is cheaper, more readily available and allegedly has advantages for aviation use.

Richard D

(8,692 posts)
34. The tragic thing is . . .
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:43 PM
Jul 2021

. . . an anti-vaxxer, if they see this video, will just say "crisis actor".

traitorsgalore

(1,390 posts)
28. Neither of my next door neighbors are vaxed
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jul 2021

One's pregnant. One neighbor's a total RW nutjob/traitor, the pregnant one is a "I'm not into politics" idiot. They're both ticking time bombs regardless of their excuses or brainwashing or flat out stupidity. I've tried talking to both but gave up long ago and stay far, far away from them physically.

In my opinion they're traitors to all of humanity by allowing a deadly virus to not only spread but likely mutate and become stronger as well.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
32. I'm in San Diego as well ...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:22 PM
Jul 2021

thankfully NOT in a RED area like Lakeside or Santee (Chula Vista actually, bad Covid numbers in this area)!

Anyway, what restaurant are you referring to, so I can be sure NOT to go there.
If you're not comfortable naming it here can you DM me?

Susan Calvin

(1,644 posts)
39. Man I do know parts of San Diego County are red.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 12:04 AM
Jul 2021

I still want to go back, except that I can't afford it and it's getting worse, and except that it's burning up and it's getting worse.

Susan Calvin

(1,644 posts)
38. Here's what I really hate about stories like this.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 12:03 AM
Jul 2021

Unvaccinated people are breeding variants for the rest of us.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
40. I don't wish your cousin any harm, but taking the risks she is & having her entire family doing the
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 12:25 AM
Jul 2021

same, the odds are against them. Perhaps when one or some of them get the virus, and God forbid, end up in the ICU on a vent. she'll realize just who was wrong.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
41. Good Grief! I certainly hope that they shut down that business!
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 01:53 AM
Jul 2021

Here in New York, everything was closed down last summer - except for drive-thrus and take out. There is one extremely popular seasonal ice cream place that tried opening - no inside eating, just standing outside and going up to windows - but they had a Covid case there and so they shut down and didn't open again for the rest of the season.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
47. There is no way I would have allowed my small child visit non vaccinated relatives
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 09:32 AM
Jul 2021

They would have been told to choose between their insane beliefs or seeing their grandchild.

And if their judgement is that bad about vaccines, it is probably lacking in other common sense things.

Escurumbele

(3,340 posts)
55. There is also the people sending videos about a medicine for people who got the vaccine to take out
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 12:33 PM
Jul 2021

the metals that were introduced to us when we got the vaccine.

I told the friend who sent it to me, "are you kidding? Why would I want to do that? Now, when I want to take a nap but I don't want to get in bed all I do is rest on the refrigerator, the magnets keep me in place, why would I want to give that benefit up?", then I took a picture of myself sleeping while resting on the refrigerator...she has good humor, so she laughed.

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