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[Note: Here are 4 of the vilest and most odious of the 9:]The three newly released books reveal new details about the 2020 election and Jan. 6 riot.
WRITTEN BY DAMARE BAKER | PUBLISHED ON JULY 13, 2021
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Trump suggested using the pandemic as an excuse for indefinitely postponing the 2020 election. Its no secret that Trump wanted to delay the election due to his concerns over mail-in voting fraud. However, once that idea didnt work, he brought up delaying the election because there was too much virus and people cant get to the polls, according to Wolff. Fortunately, his then-chief of staff Mark Meadows stepped in to inform him that postponing the election wasnt a constitutional possibility.
Trump said that he wanted the military to beat the fuck out of protesters for racial justice and to crack their skulls, Wolff reports. Unlike the rioters at the Capitol, Trump allegedly wanted a violent military response to Black Lives Matter demonstrators following the murder of George Floyd last year. Bender reports that aides pushed back on the order, so Trump softened his stance and request that soldiers shoot them in the leg or maybe the foot but be hard on them.
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Trump allegedly told one of his many White House chief of staffs John Kelly that Adolf Hitler did a lot of good things. Bender recounts Kellys failed attempts to discourage Trump from praising Hitler, regardless of what economic success Germany may have had under the dictators rule. Kelly and Trump deny this anecdote, but its not the first time Trumps alleged interest in the Nazi leader has come up. Over thirty years ago, Trumps first wife, Ivana, alleged that he kept a copy of Hitlers speeches by his bed.
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Trumps notorious remarks before supporters stormed the Capitol were not in the speech that his staff had prepared. In his speech to the mob on January 6, Trump urged his supporters to march to the Capitol three different times, saying were going to walk down to the Capitol. However, Wolff revealed that the lines were ad-libbed by the former president.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/07/13/nine-juicy-details-to-come-out-of-the-barrage-of-new-trump-books/
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)All these juicy revelations neither surprise me or encourage me.
People at the time should have had a spine and told him to shut the fuck up. I guess Gen. Milley did.
But not enough people have a spine.
Thats very depressing.
live love laugh
(13,104 posts)Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)Rest in piss, Slobfather...
Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)I will laugh and party hard that day. As long as the motherfucker is buried in Florida. Keep him the hell out of federal sites where we bury people.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Same here. And the sooner, the better.
Bristlecone
(10,127 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)oh bull fucking SHIT, he was afraid of them making it easier for BROWN PEOPLE to vote during the pandemic
FUCKING COWARD
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)to lose that he was concerned with. That's why he started last August saying that the election was going to be fraudulent. He knew he was going to lose so he was setting up the Big Lie from way back then.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I came to say this. What hogwash it is to frame it this way.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)unconscionable
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)that he is not sure if tRump is crazy and delusional, believing all the BS coming out of his mouth or well aware of what he says and does and what the reactions to him will be.
I have been asking this for 5 years...Does he really believe the ridiculous nonsense he spews or is he conning us like a carnival barker?
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Incapable of conceiving of losing.
His mind just makes up whatever reality it has to to protect him ego from failure.
So yeah he believes it and is truly delusional.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)But like any sociopath, he is able to read emotional cues and respond accordingly. Many con men are not necessarily intelligent in an academic sense but because they rely on reading people, and they have no qualms about using unethical and illegal means for getting what they want, they can be quite effective at luring people in (even smart ones) and taking from them.
Trump is not crazy. Delusional means that you believe things that are not true despite evidence to the contrary. Being delusional is a problem but it doesn't mean that you are "crazy" as in, not in control of your mental faculties. Trump may simply give in to his delusional process as a way of comforting himself. Trump is typically running away from failure, not running toward success. He is self aggrandizing, but what he likely does not believe is all the bullshit about him being the "smartest: and "best" and all the other crap he says to pump himself up. He has an endless void that he cannot fill up. His parents likely made him feel worthless and this (what we see him doing) are his defense mechanisms against that worthless feeling.
He is only conning his blind followers. The rest of us see through his bullshit. The problem is we have very limited power to do anything about it.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Not crazy but delusional. It is VERY frustrating not being able to stop him from spreading his BS as well as not able to get through to the blind GQP sheep.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)This strikes at the whole notion of Truth and fact. It strikes at the First Amendment and the reporting of news.
Right wingers have done a major number on the media in their bid to hold on to power with their decreasing numbers.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Especially the distinction between delusional and crazy.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)what he's saying is true and he's just saying it because he knows that's how he can win somebody over. Not sure what you call this charlatan? I think you saw this more earlier and gradually the delusion took over. Perhaps it was so many years of misrepresenting the truth that eventually paid the toll on him?.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)Sociopaths can sometimes blur the distinction between truth and lie, and will use both to gain an advantage over their victim. I do think that there is a part of Trump that is so fragile that he cannot bear to accept any truth about his many failures. He may have incorporated his own lies about his superiority into his belief system and maybe now, cannot distinguish that reality on an intellectual level, though he likely still feels it emotionally.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)his life as a businessman and his life as president. Great documentary on Netflix about his business years. He was described as the best self promoter they had ever seen. He lived in a surreal world. Many many years of winning even when he'd bankrupt. A gold laden penthouse where he only had to take an elevator down to his office for decades. Never really experiencing real life. " How perfect I must be! Look at what I have and I really haven't really tried. Sure, I can do president. " See that as delusional right there.
underpants
(182,788 posts)From Chris Cilliza no less
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016296924
This is, in sum, a man deeply unfit for the presidency. (That is not a partisan statement. It is a statement of fact based on the clear portrait we have of how Trump behaved while in the most powerful office in the country.) A man who, by his inability to understand the sanctity of the office he held, threatened to destroy that sanctity for those who would follow him into the White House. And a man who was, without any question, an active danger for every single American -- whether they supported or opposed him.
THAT needs to be the takeaway from these books. THAT is the forest through the trees. And THAT is the truth that voters needs to hear if and when Trump tries to reclaim the presidency in 2024.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Ive heard this even back as far as Omarosa.
Whatever happened to her?
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)She wasn't around when much of this happened, like when Trump was accessory to murder on Jan. 6. So I don't understand you post. What exactly are you saying?
joetheman
(1,450 posts)We are witnessing the revival of the circle of evil. You can almost match Trump's circle with every one of them.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)One doesn't "cause a riff" between others.
A "riff" is a musical phrase.
One causes a "rift" between others.
Yes, I'm a pedant.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Stuff like poor proofreading bugs me too.
I dont mind message board and Twitter errors but stuff that people are paid to write should be better.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)oasis
(49,381 posts)Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)"Concerns" implies an honest assessment that the system was prone to widespread fraud.
No.
What TFG had were baseless lies in an effort to sow doubt about the legitimacy of the election so he could claim it was "rigged" if it didn't go his way.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)Trump actually believed that if he went on the attack against Biden and weakened him,Dems wouldve replaced him with Cuomo and that Cuomo wouldve had Michelle Obama as his running mate.