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cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:19 PM Jul 2021

Really appreciate what I'm hearing from Black

speakers on TV - Mondaire Jones and Joy Reid (on her show and Chris Hayes)v that Senatorial Dems are taking POC for granted in not pushing harder on voting rights and taking down the filibuster.

We need action NOW!

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Really appreciate what I'm hearing from Black (Original Post) cilla4progress Jul 2021 OP
Hmmm, Joy Reid and Chris Hayes....criticizing Democrats. George II Jul 2021 #1
They never fail to meet the predictable expectations of 'reporting' Budi Jul 2021 #5
What a surprise! mcar Jul 2021 #7
I have no doubt it is appreciated. BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #2
Well, I'm not watching it but, no offense, that doesn't sound like an angle I'd have great deal of Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #3
"Senatorial Dems are taking POC for granted..." Budi Jul 2021 #4
I wonder if Chris Hayes' brother, Luke, is behind this? George II Jul 2021 #14
Well, that's a fair question George ll. Budi Jul 2021 #19
One of the reasons I've NEVER watched Chris Hayes' show. He was obnoxious as a frequent guest.... George II Jul 2021 #25
I think it's a courageous stand cilla4progress Jul 2021 #6
Sure, I just saw the same 'meme' on the red rose twitter postings. Budi Jul 2021 #9
If that's the case, then why is it estimated that 90% of the Black voters voted for Biden? George II Jul 2021 #17
Exactly. There was no doubt in 2016 & in a serious way in 2020... Budi Jul 2021 #21
I just heard the opposite from the head of NAACP on PBS NewsHour frazzled Jul 2021 #8
.."the opposite from the head of NAACP " Budi Jul 2021 #10
Luke perhaps? George II Jul 2021 #15
Crap. cilla4progress Jul 2021 #11
That's the big question frazzled Jul 2021 #12
Big, cilla4progress Jul 2021 #13
I'd put money on it that many in this country think its a black people problem and that's why ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #16
Shhh....I think we're supposed to say that all is well Bettie Jul 2021 #20
+1, especially the GQP going after mail in voting ... that's a republican thing uponit7771 Jul 2021 #23
Republicans trapped Democrats into framing the voting bill as Baked Potato Jul 2021 #18
+1, if dems had branded the problem that of rural white America HR1 would be passed by now ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #22
Sure. Just don't make it about Black voters. Budi Jul 2021 #24
True that's but we can say it affects rural America (it does) and they're coming for your ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #26
Yes, that's how it's done! Baked Potato Jul 2021 #29
I don't speak for anyone but myself, but ecstatic Jul 2021 #27
Like this! cilla4progress Jul 2021 #28
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. They never fail to meet the predictable expectations of 'reporting'
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:53 PM
Jul 2021

cough.. cough..

Remember whe Hayes ran the sensational Tara Reade story front & center every night for...well until she was proven to be lying.

Or Hunter Biden!! That one too...well until it was proven to be political hype as well.


Sure Chris Hayes... now it the messaging that the Senate DEMOCRATS have failed the Black people!! Take them for granted even!!

Give it up. That base is loyal to Joe Biden's Democrats.. (you seriously don't believe they're that gullible.)

Is it Hate on Rep Clyburn day yet?

Something.. something about being"stupid", ....

GTFOUTTA Here with that bs.








 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Well, I'm not watching it but, no offense, that doesn't sound like an angle I'd have great deal of
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jul 2021

appreciation for.

Excepting the case wherein those 'Senatorial Dems' are named Manchin and Sinema.

And honestly IMHO, these RePuQ voting suppression bills are aimed at the entire Democratic constituency, not just POC.

I appreciate the metaphorical kick in the ass, don't get me wrong, but these GQP assholes are thinking bigger, and are out to disenfranchise more than just minorities.

Which is to say I'd receive such messages best if they were addressing the continuum of voters being victimized here. It's about suppressing the vote of POC's, and women, and young people, and elderly folks esp. those who are disabled.

We're all in this together

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. "Senatorial Dems are taking POC for granted..."
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jul 2021

That is a Lie.

Why ever would a progressive be making a broadbrushed comment like this?

Which Senatorial Democrats are they accusing?
All?
Some?
A couple?

I believe a strong majority of Senate Democrats are well aware of their strength of Black voters & stand by the loyalty towards them.

The election was clear where Black Voters cast their loyalty.
They aren't a fickle base, easily swayed by populist promises.

The Black base would disagree with the casting of 'Senate Democrats' as taking them for granted.

Which Senate Democrats, specifically?
Because you & I both know the intent of such a broadbrushed statement.



 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
19. Well, that's a fair question George ll.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jul 2021

I'm surprised MSNBC allows such a brother to brother influence in it's political narrative.
What's the word for that again?
Nepotism? Something of that nature.

Oh well, "Money & Media" baby !!$$$
Chumpa dumpa Ching $$





George II

(67,782 posts)
25. One of the reasons I've NEVER watched Chris Hayes' show. He was obnoxious as a frequent guest....
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jul 2021

...on Maddow's show. Once Olbermann got canned and he took over that prime slot I went away from MSNBC for a long time.

I can't believe he STILL has that time slot after almost 10 years. Is he the best they can come up with?

And then the revelation that he has a major conflict of interest with his brother and he doing political commentary with an obvious bias toward Luke's political, um, let's call it "connections".

No thanks.



cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
6. I think it's a courageous stand
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jul 2021

and I appreciate it.

I also think there may be many in the Black community who feel likewise - taken for granted by the Dem party. Not the first time I've heard it!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. Exactly. There was no doubt in 2016 & in a serious way in 2020...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jul 2021

...who our Black Southern Voters base chose.
Solid & loyal as always throughout history.

I guess they've now become a lucrative target.

"Senatorial Dems are taking POC for granted..." Gee, wonder who tf dragged up that meme.. 🙄. We sure do know why!

Maybe Nina will select a Southern State for her next primary target.





frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. I just heard the opposite from the head of NAACP on PBS NewsHour
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jul 2021

Passionate about voting rights, democracy, and the threat these face from state Republican legislatures, but realistic about—or should I say, primarily disinterested in—the hurdles facing Washington Democrats in a 50-50 senate.

Then, Dick Durbin, in a long interview on a local public affairs television show, said, when asked about repeal of filibuster, that Manchin and Sinema were not the only Democratic senators opposed to going nuclear on the filibuster ... they are just the only ones who have made their positions public. There are significant others who have substantial reservations. He gives it little chance of happening. And he should know.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. .."the opposite from the head of NAACP "
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:07 PM
Jul 2021

Can't imagine why Hayes would be pushing such a skewed meme.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. That's the big question
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jul 2021

The Supreme Court is not looking favorable at this point, given their recent majority position on states’ ability to run elections ... though they could have gone further. Frankly, Democrats are not really fighting voter ID at this point.

I think the next step is massive outreach to voters, state by state, to educate them and tell them what they need to do to get their votes counted.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
16. I'd put money on it that many in this country think its a black people problem and that's why ...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:40 PM
Jul 2021

... there's no one marching in the streets right now against the GQP.

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
20. Shhh....I think we're supposed to say that all is well
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jul 2021

this is all just fine!

So states suppress the vote and change the election results to whatever they want them to be...why would anyone be worried about that.

(Sarcasm, obviously...Jeez, you'd think that they would, oh, I don't know, care?)

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
18. Republicans trapped Democrats into framing the voting bill as
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jul 2021

helping predominantly Black voters in response to their targeted bills. Republicans are dividing and conquering on a bill that should have been pushed as a bill for ALL voters. All voters have a stake in this country moving forward.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
22. +1, if dems had branded the problem that of rural white America HR1 would be passed by now ...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jul 2021

... because branding a peripheral problem as unfair to them doesn't get humans to react with action.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
24. Sure. Just don't make it about Black voters.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jul 2021

Red States (TX) are specifically targeting the Black voter areas for voting restrictions, not the Rural areas.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
26. True that's but we can say it affects rural America (it does) and they're coming for your ...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:10 PM
Jul 2021

... vote and your guns and bible SUPPORT HR1!!!

ecstatic

(32,703 posts)
27. I don't speak for anyone but myself, but
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jul 2021

honestly, if Democrats don't fix this, I'm done. It's very simple: either you're complicit in the attempt of racist rethugs to "cancel" black voters or you're not. There is no middle ground here. Hiding behind the filibuster won't absolve manchin, sinema, etc from their complicity.

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