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yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:25 PM Jul 2021

Pastor asks Jesus for help after ignoring Covid precautions at church camp.

https://www.rawstory.com/clear-creek-community-church-outbreak/


The pastor of a Texas church publicly prayed for God to end COVID-19 after at least 125 children and adults contracted the virus at a student ministry camp, where masks reportedly were optional and most children were old enough to be vaccinated.

"Lord, we didn't want to be in the news, at least not for this, maybe for serving or some extreme generosity, but not this," Pastor Bruce Wesley of Clear Creek Community Church said in a video posted online. "So we ask for your mercy. We ask for your healing for all of those who became sick with this virus and for their families who've have been caring for them as well. We pray for complete recovery so that people don't have any lingering effects, and we pray that you would put a stop to the spread of this virus."


You pathetic loser, why should Jesus help you when you would not help yourself? And the first thing you are worried about is "being in the news?" Not just a pathetic loser but a dickhead as well.
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Pastor asks Jesus for help after ignoring Covid precautions at church camp. (Original Post) yellowcanine Jul 2021 OP
Jesus' reply: "I sent you several safe and effective vaccines, you fuckbrain! Get with the program!" Aristus Jul 2021 #1
Ah, you beat me to it. nt Ilsa Jul 2021 #11
... lame54 Jul 2021 #24
Just give me a sign... Caliman73 Jul 2021 #41
My favorite line: "Now hop up and down on one foot, juggle these oranges louis-t Jul 2021 #47
+1000 h2ebits Jul 2021 #49
Jesus already loaded up the vaccines and drove out of town, Rev. Dumbfuck hatrack Jul 2021 #2
Pastor: When we die we sit by right side of Jesus! Jesus: Come join me now. Pastor: Whaaaah! 😭 TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #72
generosity? He must be really generous. Where can I give money? underpants Jul 2021 #3
Maybe he should just pray not to be so stupid in future. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #4
He's praying to grift money for more Brooks Brothers shirts. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #73
THIS: elleng Jul 2021 #5
One of the best scenes in television history. Aristus Jul 2021 #12
And one of Karl Malden's last performances KS Toronado Jul 2021 #37
What a wonderful performance it was... Aristus Jul 2021 #38
One of several - from one of, if not THE best show in television history. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #53
I was just thinking of that scene too! Exactly! mrsadm Jul 2021 #52
These people really are temporary311 Jul 2021 #6
If Jesus did come down and knock on doors, they wouldn't answer. Arkansas Granny Jul 2021 #19
The Nazarene... Whatthe_Firetruck Jul 2021 #51
Yep. Arkansas Granny Jul 2021 #59
No vaccine above the door, now a visit from the Covid Angel. n/t MarcA Jul 2021 #28
That's the first thing I thought of, too Klondike Kat Jul 2021 #36
If god is truly omnipotent..... SergeStorms Jul 2021 #58
It was super nice of the sky daddy Ligyron Jul 2021 #69
Quit believing the shit on Facebook and take the damn vaccine! Initech Jul 2021 #7
I think your Jesus has sent you a message, Pastor Asshole. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #8
THIS!! A HERETIC I AM Jul 2021 #9
Do they ever think... Tree-Hugger Jul 2021 #10
THIS Dreampuff Jul 2021 #27
All Pox Both Great and Small Grokenstein Jul 2021 #33
Do they ever think... sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #13
Bingo! Duppers Jul 2021 #31
So here's how this goes down for these dumbfucks... orwell Jul 2021 #14
Let's see what Christ had to say about that ... marble falls Jul 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #65
Hey bubba! marble falls Jul 2021 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #70
Have you heard the modern parable about...a jeep, a boat and helicopter or the one RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2021 #16
Not a believer, but if I was... I would remind the pastor that, in his tradition, Politicub Jul 2021 #17
Same here. Grew up evangelical. Now a freethinker. GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #21
Pastor Bruce, here is a helpful Chinese proverb for you: NCjack Jul 2021 #18
I guess he hasn't figured out- LisaL Jul 2021 #20
Thoughts and prayers. nt. Mariana Jul 2021 #22
Is it only me that sees this as a prayer he's not held personally liable? Hugin Jul 2021 #23
Jesus will not help those who will not help themselves. Bird Lady Jul 2021 #25
SMH GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #26
Is there a lighting rod on multigraincracker Jul 2021 #29
God Helps Those Who Help Themselves, my mother used to tell us. So, pastor, lead your flock... Hekate Jul 2021 #30
Pence try'd that stuff & don't think it worked ! republican population control ! (alleged) monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #32
UGH ShazzieB Jul 2021 #34
There is only one thing this pastor should be praying for: colorado_ufo Jul 2021 #35
and jaysus says "FOAD, sucker" NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #39
Please Jesus, send my help from this flood, I'm stranded on my roof ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #40
He sent the brilliant people who made a vaccine you fucking moron. onecaliberal Jul 2021 #42
It's "His" virus. Why aren't they thankful they got it? Grins Jul 2021 #43
There seems to be a pandemic of Christians who don't know their scripture. mn9driver Jul 2021 #44
Dear Pastor ad121rome Jul 2021 #45
Your ending statement was a perfect assessment BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #46
Sorry- I can't believe in any god who would to this to his own people. lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #48
God already sent help. You and your followers refused it. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #50
Pastor W must not believe in the power of God... keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #55
So said the Texas preacher just before flying way in his private jet to the Bahamas..... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2021 #56
Think about this, pastor NQAS Jul 2021 #57
reminds me of this story or a varation of it whistler162 Jul 2021 #60
There is a balm in Gilead struggle4progress Jul 2021 #61
Jesus H. Crisis Blue Owl Jul 2021 #62
🦠 roamer65 Jul 2021 #63
It's plain to see Retired Engineer Bob Jul 2021 #64
Well, it's a herd Sympthsical Jul 2021 #67
"We pray for your healing, Jesus! Send us a cure, maybe a virus expert of some sort..." Bucky Jul 2021 #68
I wonder how many people this traitor has called a "baby killer"? traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #71
Jesus already helped him but he ignored him. GoCubsGo Jul 2021 #74
Lord, why hast thou forsaken us and... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #75

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
47. My favorite line: "Now hop up and down on one foot, juggle these oranges
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:40 PM
Jul 2021

and sing the Catalena Magdalena Lieptenstein song." "Damn, your drunk tests are hard!"

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
2. Jesus already loaded up the vaccines and drove out of town, Rev. Dumbfuck
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

He'd had enough of Gadarene Heights Baptist and of you and your bullshit.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. Maybe he should just pray not to be so stupid in future.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jul 2021

There is something in the Bible about not testing God. I guess he missed that somehow.

temporary311

(955 posts)
6. These people really are
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jul 2021

living embodiments of the moron from the flood parable. God sent you idiots social distancing, masks, and finally vaccines. Do they expect Jesus to descend bodily from heaven, knock on each one of their doors, and personally tell each one what to do? What happened to not testing the lord thy god?

Arkansas Granny

(31,512 posts)
19. If Jesus did come down and knock on doors, they wouldn't answer.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 03:06 PM
Jul 2021

They'd be afraid he was coming for their guns and bibles.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
58. If god is truly omnipotent.....
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:23 PM
Jul 2021

wasn't it he who created the virus itself? Or can that somehow be blamed on man's original sin?

Doesn't god create both good and bad things in this world?

Asking for a friend.

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
69. It was super nice of the sky daddy
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:40 AM
Jul 2021

To create all those deadly viruses, bacteria
and diseases not to mention the wide range of parasites we get to enjoy.

It’s things like this that started me seriously questioning my involvement with religion. I asked too many disturbing questions, got lame answers like, “Well, god works in mysterious ways my Son”and after a time, found myself shunned for daring to ask such things

Got into good college (go Gators!) and saw firsthand that Science left little for a god to do and no good place for him to hide. Since we haven’t seen hide nor hair of this god, He may as well not even exist at all.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
9. THIS!!
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jul 2021

“Jesus spared my home from the tornado that wiped out my entire neighborhood!”

No dumbass, it looks like god was trying to kill you too and missed.

Same basic idea here.

“We don’t need anyone but god to keep us healthy!”

:::God:::: Smites them all with COVID

God: “What the fuck did I send the vaccines for, dipshit?”

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
10. Do they ever think...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jul 2021

...that God guided the creation of the vaccines? He DID answer, but they didn't listen.

sanatanadharma

(3,693 posts)
13. Do they ever think...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jul 2021

...the corona virus is part of the natural world created by their God of which it is said God never makes mistakes.

Living objectively, reducing subjectivity is honoring the Divine.

orwell

(7,769 posts)
14. So here's how this goes down for these dumbfucks...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jul 2021

...if nobody dies Jebus saved 'em.

...if somebody dies it was "God's Will" which is inscrutable. HE "has a plan", and it cannot be fathomed unless you are "one of the chosen."

...if everyone dies Jebus has "delivered them" in the rapture.

The bottom line... Jebus is always right. Only the pastor has a pipeline to Jebus. Keep the collection plate filled so that the pastor can spread more of "the word."

And if he needs a private jet to do it...well that's just Jebus' prosperity gospel being realized with "the chosen."

Rinse and repeat in the great Church of Dumbfuckistan!

marble falls

(57,055 posts)
15. Let's see what Christ had to say about that ...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jul 2021

9Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. 10For it is written:

‘He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you,’

11and,

‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

12And Jesus answered and said to him, “It has been said, ‘You shall not [g]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”



Pretty clear case of "pride preceding the fall." What makes him think that the miracle he was looking for wasn't PPE and vaccines?

Response to marble falls (Reply #15)

Response to marble falls (Reply #66)

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. Not a believer, but if I was... I would remind the pastor that, in his tradition,
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

God gave him free will. And what this dumbass did, using his free will, was to create an environment where people would catch a disease and die.

Free will is a misunderstood innovation, really: Christians are culpable for their bad decisions. All of the leaders of megachurches in California who sued to cram people in enclosed buildings for services are responsible for creating an environment of sickness and disease. There was nothing divine about it.

Christians who dissuade others from taking the vaccine are leading people down a deadly path. These Christians are filled with wickedness.

I grew up in a fundamentalist household with Church three times a week; I do really well when there's a Bible category on Jeopardy. What I learned quickly after leaving the small town I'm from is that the arrogance of fundamentalists and evangelicals is breathtaking. They believe they are smarter than the unknowable force they claim to worship. At least Catholics believe in the idea of mysteries (though the ritualized, cannibalism alchemy is quite bizarre).

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
30. God Helps Those Who Help Themselves, my mother used to tell us. So, pastor, lead your flock...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jul 2021

… to the vaccine clinic.

ShazzieB

(16,348 posts)
34. UGH
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jul 2021

I really don't understand the mindset that God decides who to help or heal based on how many people pray the loudest or the longest or however it's supposed to work. I just don't get it. Is he supposed to be sitting up there keeping score or something?

I'm not an atheist, but I was always taught that God helps those who help themselves, not those who ignore all the things they could have done to help themselves and expect him to just... fix things FOR them.

aggiesal

(8,908 posts)
40. Please Jesus, send my help from this flood, I'm stranded on my roof ...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:20 PM
Jul 2021

Boat arrives, "Get on so we can save you"
"No thank you, I'm waiting for Jesus to save me"

Canoe arrives, "Get on so we can save you"
"No thank you, I'm waiting for Jesus to save me"

A 2nd boat arrives, "Get on so we can save you"
"No thank you, I'm waiting for Jesus to save me"

Person dies and asks Jesus, "Why didn't you save me?"
Jesus responds "What do you think the 2 boats and the canoe were?"

Grins

(7,203 posts)
43. It's "His" virus. Why aren't they thankful they got it?
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jul 2021

“His” blessing upon them! How ungrateful!!!!

mn9driver

(4,422 posts)
44. There seems to be a pandemic of Christians who don't know their scripture.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jul 2021

“It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” -Jesus

He made it about as clear as can be.

lindysalsagal

(20,638 posts)
48. Sorry- I can't believe in any god who would to this to his own people.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 04:50 PM
Jul 2021

It's all balderdash, and what more evidence do you need than covid???

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
50. God already sent help. You and your followers refused it.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jul 2021

Hope this is a learning experience for the kids.

keithbvadu2

(36,722 posts)
54. Pastor W must not believe in the power of God...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jul 2021

COVID 19 is already destroyed and gone?

That nice man blew it away in April last year with the wind of God.

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland

Feel safer/better now?

Of course he wants us to send him lots of money.

https://i.imgur.com/s7A6VaB.mp4

Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
56. So said the Texas preacher just before flying way in his private jet to the Bahamas.....
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jul 2021

to have an enhanced location from which to pray......


He needs to pray for stopping of the spread of stupid.......

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
57. Think about this, pastor
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jul 2021

We who are not true believes often hear people like you tell us that your god brings, well, pretty much everything, good and bad, and it's up to you to respond appropriately. If he brings good stuff, then you revel in your joy. If he brings bad stuff, then you bear the pain and come through on the other side thanks to your prayers (and, of course, god's weird randomness).

I may be off on some details, but I think that's the gist of it.

So. . . god brings the Covid-19 virus (again, according to your world view). That's one of the bad things, and you bear the pain and pray.

But. . . do you think it's possible, just maybe a little bit possible, that god also brought you the wisdom of the doctors and scientists who told you to get vaccinated and wear a mask? I mean, if you're gonna buy into the god being responsible for stuff, then why this thing and not that? Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, you're a hypocrite who chooses to follow your political leaders on life and death issues that they know nothing about, rather than your god, who delivered wisdom and guidance through real-life smart people who said, hey guys, get vaccinated and wear masks.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
60. reminds me of this story or a varation of it
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 05:39 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.michaelhartzell.com/blog/the-story-about-a-jeep-a-boat-and-a-helicopter

"There once was a man who lived in a two story house. The house was near a river and unfortunately the river began to flood.

As the river rose, warnings were given via radio, TV and shortwave. Large jeeps drove through the area to evacuate people. As a jeep drove by the man's house, he was told:

"You are in danger. Your life is at stake. You must evacuate. Get in the Jeep. Let us help you evacuate."
"No," the man replied from his doorstep. "I have faith. I will be ok. The flood won't get me. God will take care of me.""
64. It's plain to see
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:39 PM
Jul 2021

His only concern is how it impact the collection plate.

"Lord, we didn't want to be in the news, at least not for this, maybe for serving or some extreme generosity, but not this," Pastor Bruce Wesley of Clear Creek Community Church said in a video posted online.

traitorsgalore

(1,395 posts)
71. I wonder how many people this traitor has called a "baby killer"?
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

He's a traitor to humanity, purposely ignoring basic science and spreading deadly disease.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
74. Jesus already helped him but he ignored him.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jul 2021

Now, he and the others get to live with their actions for the rest of their lives. Bed. Made. Lie. I feel bad for the kids, though.

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