Should private and government insurance pay for the unvaccinated who get Covid ?

(1) Does not apply to people who have medically reasons to not vaccinate.

(2) Announce with 3 months notice, that any COVID hospitalization stays will not be obligated to cover these cases via private/public insurance. Put their money where there COVID breeding mouths are.

If someone is able to get vaccinated, refuses to, and gets sick they should pay for their treatment after receiving it.

Health care shouldn't get into such questions.

I understand the frustration with these people, believe me. I just believe health care is a fundamental right and immoral or unethical behavior should have nothing to do with it.

Private insurance, if they have it, they presumably paid for it or earned it through their employer. Public insurance, they paid for through their taxes. But even if it's unpaid, it shouldn't matter. Someone who lives off completely off the grid and never pays even sales tax should still get health care.

Kant said when you weigh the morality of whether or not to do something you should ask yourself how you would feel if that act was made into a universal law. The unmasked and unvaccinated should be asked how they would feel if everybody refused to wear a mask and get vaccinated. As to smokers they are addicted, as to those who attempt suicide or harm themselves they have emotional problems which mitigate their culpability. They are much different from someone who refuses to get vaccinated. In a just world such selfishness would come with consequences.

Not for harming themselves.

As for mental illness, they are in fact caught in a group psychosis....

Plus they are purposely putting their fellow citizens in danger. That's part of the social contract, with freedom comes responsibility.

to the people who are causing the harm, that I can get behind.

NO PLACE provides free healthcare. Someone other than the recipient might be paying for it. It is not free.

Smokers?
People who have risky sex?
People who drink or eat red meat?

Lots of people make sub-optimal decisions about their healthcare. I don't think that's a good reason to bankrupt them when they get sick.

And that only tangentially.

It was wrong then it is wrong now

In the former the unvaccinated are endangering the health of everybody they come in contact with. In the latter sex is helpfully volitional on behalf of the parties involved. I choose whom I have sex with. I can't choose who comes into my space that refuses to get vaccinated

I remember when liberals used to be the compassionate party, this won't help get more people vaccinated it is just revenge.

I have no idea who is and isn't vaccinated.

No point in placing them in endless debt more than they already are.

Waived for vaccinated people with breakthrough infections, or those who legitimately CAN'T get vaccinated.

If you start excluding people for any reason then you can not believe in universal healthcare.

There won’t be any beds to pay for, just like India.

This wave is where we will pass the 1M dead mark.

At least these idiots chose it.

Smokers with lung cancer?

Think about it.

No weaponization.

Even pukes should die being shown dignity. IMO.

All those who have these fever dreams of getting their pound of flesh from beer-bellied Trumpers should also consider that millions of black and brown people would be swept up in your tough love.

If we did, the only people covered would be children.

We are so sorry to hear your child has been hospitalized with the measles.

Unfortunately our review of your family medical records shows your child was six months past due for well child visits and preventative vaccinations.

As you are aware, your policy requires remaining up to date on all available vaccinations. We have taken into consideration your appeal that you could not get time off from work and that a well child visit was scheduled for later this month.

After a thorough review the decision of the committee is to uphold the denial of coverage. It is believed that you had more than adequate time to take your child to the doctor prior to becoming ill.

Your appeal is hereby denied, we will not pay any expenses for the treatment and hospital costs related to the measles.

You are a valuable customer and we look forward to serving you in the future.

Sincerely,

Your Insurance Company

with a VALID excuse are omitted