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Nevilledog

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Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:13 PM Jul 2021

Feb 6 1934/Jan 6 2021: What Do The Two Events Really Have In Common?



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Feb 6 1934/Jan 6 2021
What Do The Two Events Really Have In Common?
johnganz.substack.com
8:08 PM · Jul 15, 2021


https://johnganz.substack.com/p/feb-6-1934jan-6-2021

Shortly after January 6, I exchanged a few emails with Robert Paxton, author of The Anatomy of Fascism, asking him his opinion about what happened. A long time skeptic of the idea that Trump was a fascist phenomenon, the events of January 6 appeared to have changed his mind. In particular, he made the comparison—made by others in subsequent days—between the January 6 riots and the attempt by far-right leagues and military veterans to storm the Chamber of Deputies in Paris on February 6 1934.

This comparison appealed to me immediately, because I’ve thought for a long time the French Third Republic was a more interesting and productive place to look for parallels to the present than the Weimar Republic or post-World War I Italy. First of all, because the history is less well known in the United States, so its details and particularities wouldn’t be quickly subject to caricature. Second, because France had a much longer democratic and republican culture and tradition, which the far-right had to contend with or co-opt. And third, partly because of that tradition, there is a great deal of ambiguity and debate over whether the term “fascist” is even an appropriate name for the French far right, just as there is now in the United States.

A detailed look at the political crises of the Third Republic was one of the reasons I started this blog and to that end I’ve written a series on the Dreyfus Affair as well as the crisis of the 1930s culminating in the Feb 6 1934 riots. I’m considering continuing the series through the Popular Front years and up to Vichy, but I thought it might be worthwhile to pause and make an explicit comparison between the present day and the Third Republic, something I have only implied so far.

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So, just how similar were Feb 6 1934 and Jan 6 2021? Starting somewhat superficially, it has to be admitted that there is an eerie parallelism: both involve a far-right mob with many military veterans attempting to to storm the legislative branch that was in the process of recognizing a new administration.

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Feb 6 1934/Jan 6 2021: What Do The Two Events Really Have In Common? (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
There's a great description of this event in Shirer's "Berlin Diary"... First Speaker Jul 2021 #1
And don't forget Prescott Bush's effort to take over the U.S. government during FDR's admin. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #2
K&R, too many people think post like this are hyperbole uponit7771 Jul 2021 #3

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
1. There's a great description of this event in Shirer's "Berlin Diary"...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jul 2021

...I've been fascinated with it ever since. Shirer was a remarkable man, on the scene of virtually every major event in 30s Europe...

3Hotdogs

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2. And don't forget Prescott Bush's effort to take over the U.S. government during FDR's admin.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:50 PM
Jul 2021

That plot was thwarted by General Smedley Butler. The plot was covered in the New York Times for about 3 days. Then crickets.


Prescott, by the way, was G. W. Bush's grandpappy and GHW's pappy.

Fine lineage.

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