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luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:09 AM Jul 2021

Mark Zuckerberg is representative of all that is wrong in this world

His outright unwillingness to stop mis/disinformation on his platform is directly responsible for people opting to NOT get vaccinated and help their friends, families, coworkers, neighbors and loved ones remain healthy, as well as the reality that the delta variant is fueling a surge in Covid in 80 percent of the US, and still FB allows disinformation to spread in the unspoken name of profit.

The cognitive dissonance that is readily apparent in people's embrace of FB while in the same breath espousing shock at the spread of the virus is mind boggling.

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Mark Zuckerberg is representative of all that is wrong in this world (Original Post) luv2fly Jul 2021 OP
No. Those who patronize Mark Zuckerberg and give him his power. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #1
Exactly! ChrisF1961 Jul 2021 #4
+1000 sinkingfeeling Jul 2021 #11
+1000 nt jrthin Jul 2021 #14
Well, that was kinda my second paragraph luv2fly Jul 2021 #23
Thats exactly right. miyazaki Jul 2021 #26
Contact those 2.85 billion people and tell them to stop Orrex Jul 2021 #28
I was simply making a statement about who is at fault for Zuckerberg's offences. If you see that Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #29
Blah blah blah Orrex Jul 2021 #31
Blah blah blah. And who called for a boycott? I didn't. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #32
Perhaps you're new to DU Orrex Jul 2021 #33
You should take up your problems about calls for boycotts with the people who call for boycotts. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #34
Bless your heart Orrex Jul 2021 #35
He's become an insatiably greedy micro-LSD fueled machine Generic Brad Jul 2021 #2
Zuckerberg knew that Russia and Cambridge Analytica were flooding facebook w/misinformation in 2016 Botany Jul 2021 #3
+100,000,000 SergeStorms Jul 2021 #5
I stopped using it years ago Botany Jul 2021 #7
You're definitely free to boycott it Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #25
Likewise! Orrex Jul 2021 #30
I thought Hillary was in trouble when... Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #8
'Cambridge Analytica planted fake news' Botany Jul 2021 #10
Boy is she delusional. Theresa Hong remember that name. She was Trump's Joseph Goebbels. usaf-vet Jul 2021 #13
Z is the consummate insider for insiders bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #6
Welcome to social media. You will soon be contacted by twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #9
worse than zuckerberg are 87 universities that support 260+ xlimbaugh stations that certainot Jul 2021 #12
Still on FB DownriverDem Jul 2021 #15
You just keep telling yourself that. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #21
ALL that is wrong in the world? Really? Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #16
I said "representative of..." luv2fly Jul 2021 #22
But then you tie him to a narrowly focused area which is hardly representative, where he is hardly Beastly Boy Jul 2021 #24
Argue with yourself please luv2fly Jul 2021 #27
Been a while since we had edhopper Jul 2021 #17
Facebook was used in multiple genocides Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #18
I get that Zuck is a total fuckhead. DURHAM D Jul 2021 #19
This is part... appmanga Jul 2021 #20
Disagree... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #36
This video made me hate him even more Blue Owl Jul 2021 #37

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
28. Contact those 2.85 billion people and tell them to stop
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jul 2021

It’s ridiculous to scold FB users, because you and I and everyone we know, plus everyone that they know, could stop using FB right now, and Zuck wouldn’t even notice a suggestion of a blip on his earning sheet. There is no point in calling for a boycott unless you can get enough people on board to be more than a statistical footnote. Therefore scolding those users is a pointless waste of time.

But if the organization or Fuckerberg himself can be held accountable, then that would be a much more effective and hard-hitting way to effect change. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of finger-wagging.


Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
29. I was simply making a statement about who is at fault for Zuckerberg's offences. If you see that
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

as you being scolded or me "calling for a boycott" that's on you.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
31. Blah blah blah
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jul 2021

The fault is Zuckerberg’s, full stop. None of the 2.85BN users are in any position to change his behavior or rein him in; having no ability to bring change, they also bear no responsibility for it.

And calling for a boycott is most assuredly not “on me.” That silly sentiment can be seen routinely on DU and even in this thread. Ridiculous.

It’s a meaningless look-at-me gesture that has no impact beyond giving one the smug satisfaction of pretending to have had an impact. Like “signing” an online petition that, upon 100,000 signatures, will send a letter(!) to Congress that few will read and none will likely act upon.

Sorry, but I have no interest in ceremonial gestures.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
32. Blah blah blah. And who called for a boycott? I didn't.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jul 2021

Do YOU think there should be a boycott? Because it seems to be on your mind.

Not mine.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
33. Perhaps you're new to DU
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jul 2021

In nearly every discussion about facebook, several high-minded individuals step forth to urge users to abandon that evil platform. That’s a call for a boycott, and that call has been made in this thread. Often, but not always, that exhortation carries no small amount of condescension, as though only someone of low birth would stoop to patronizing such a medium.

You may also be shocked to learn that yours is not the only reply in this discussion, nor are replies to you or me forbidden to address points not explicitly raised in the antecedent post.

I posted a few months back about being tossed in Zuck-jail for hurting the feelings of a fuckheaded Trump cultist, and I was told repeatedly to get rid of FB. And a few months before that, the same. I guess none of those calls for boycott count as calls for boycott, though.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
34. You should take up your problems about calls for boycotts with the people who call for boycotts.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:40 PM
Jul 2021

Have a lovely day.

Botany

(70,498 posts)
3. Zuckerberg knew that Russia and Cambridge Analytica were flooding facebook w/misinformation in 2016
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:02 AM
Jul 2021

“Without Facebook, we wouldn’t have won. I mean Facebook really and truly put us over the edge. Facebook was the medium that proved most successful for this campaign.” -Theresa Hong, Trump Campaign's Digital Director


SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
5. +100,000,000
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:28 AM
Jul 2021

"I like it because I can stay in touch with family and friends".

Write a letter. Send an email. Call them on the telephone. Don't contribute to the death of society by using Zuckerberg's money machine.

50% of all Americans get their news primarily from Facebook. That's far too many people relying on an unregulated platform for their news, both domestic and foreign. You never know who's manufacturing that news, and what their agenda might be.

I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it. FUCK FACEBOOK!

Botany

(70,498 posts)
7. I stopped using it years ago
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021

I asked my then teenage son if I could drop somebody as a friend from my facebook page and he
said sure but then the guy looked @ my facebook page and asked me why I dropped him. BTW the
guy was creepy. After that I stopped using it.

An old friend gotten taken in by the "Hillary and her emails" crap in 2016 and still refuses to believe he
was reading Russian propaganda.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
30. Likewise!
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

“Write a letter.” That’s hilarious. I haven’t written nor had reason to write a personal letter in over 30 years, nor have I received or wanted one.

That silly admonition is like telling someone to ride a mule when they note that traffic on the turnpike is heavy.

Johnny2X2X

(19,049 posts)
8. I thought Hillary was in trouble when...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jul 2021

When I saw that Donald Trump's campaign had something like 350,000 unique ads/stories running on Facebook and Hillary had like a few hundred. That was obvious then that Trump's team had tapped into something totally different than the norm.

I honestly think Trump lucked into this, he lucked into Cambridge Analytica cracking the mind control code using Facebook.

Botany

(70,498 posts)
10. 'Cambridge Analytica planted fake news'
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jul 2021

'Cambridge Analytica planted fake news'


A former employee of London-based political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica has said the company "absolutely" planted fake news.

Christopher Wylie said Cambridge Analytica used the personal data of 50 million Facebook members to influence the US presidential election in 2016.

Facebook said Aleksandr Kogan, who created the personality app from which the data was harvested, has agreed to be audited, but Mr Wylie - who made the claims about the way the data was gathered and used - has declined.

Cambridge Analytica denies any wrongdoing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-43472347

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usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
13. Boy is she delusional. Theresa Hong remember that name. She was Trump's Joseph Goebbels.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jul 2021

Where do these idiots come from?

I hope she is shunned by any respectable PR firm that she might try and get a job with.

bucolic_frolic

(43,136 posts)
6. Z is the consummate insider for insiders
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:32 AM
Jul 2021

Plenty of the world's elite profiting off FB. I don't see how he just decided this was going to be a big business one day. Elites were behind it. Inside and early information to manipulate people is always how big people control society. From the dawn of industrialization - coal, European exploration, slave trade, railroads, oil, armaments.

twodogsbarking

(9,734 posts)
9. Welcome to social media. You will soon be contacted by
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jul 2021

someone who doesn't understand humor. Not mine but I like it.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. worse than zuckerberg are 87 universities that support 260+ xlimbaugh stations that
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jul 2021

called covid a hoax, then politicized masks and vaccines, etc.

like fox, facebook is part of the free speech spectrum - there are alts a click away, and zuck is an asshole.

but in most parts of the us there are no free easy alts for politics on radio - rw radio is a protected monopoly that dominates 95% and reaches 50 mil/week. those universities have no excuse no to start looking for apolitical station alternatives to broadcast their sports.

those 87+ universities (there are many more and many pro teams do the some) also support global warming denial, voter suppression, racism, and trumpism and would be excellent places to protest any of those and all of those issues. and that would scare off advertisers and scare the crap out of republicans - without that radio advantage few current republicans could win reelection.

Beastly Boy

(9,314 posts)
16. ALL that is wrong in the world? Really?
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:26 AM
Jul 2021

If Zuckerberg and Facebook suddenly disappeared, would all the wrongs of the world disappear with him?

I sense a bit of scapegoating here. Call me naive, but I firmly believe that people of free will not getting vaccinated are more directly responsible for their actions than all the misinformation on all media platforms they get exposed to. And that is but a tiny fraction of what is wrong in this world.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
22. I said "representative of..."
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jul 2021

Certainly not the only thing, there are many things that could improve around the world.

Beastly Boy

(9,314 posts)
24. But then you tie him to a narrowly focused area which is hardly representative, where he is hardly
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jul 2021

the iconic villain solely responsible for what went wrong.

There are many scumbags who make things wrong in the world. While Zuckerberg can be considered one of them to some degree, he is one of many, and he is far from being representative, not even to the degree you give him credit for.

Johnny2X2X

(19,049 posts)
18. Facebook was used in multiple genocides
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2020/09/30/will-facebook-sit-on-the-evidence-of-the-genocide-against-the-rohingyas/

And more than one. Know that Facebook execs and Zuckerberg himself knew their platform was being used to exterminate hoards of innocent people, but he did nothing to stop it. Just didn't want to put profits at risk, so he watched while countless families were butchered.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
19. I get that Zuck is a total fuckhead.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jul 2021

The person I don't understand is Sheryl Sandberg. I know she is better than this

I did hear on tv yesterday that their friendship is failing now.

appmanga

(571 posts)
20. This is part...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jul 2021

...of the privilege of having some money and having some power: the smug belief that things are simply going to be alright. We're truly at the most dangerous place our democracy has been since the Civil War. To quote a fairly well known fellow, that's not hyperbole. Facebook and Twitter continue to be irresponsible in their failure to rein in misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, and outright lies.

These private companies routinely throw off users, especially those without huge followings. No one is entitled to be on these sites, and there does happen to be objective truths in the world. Business titans of the past may have been ruthless in their capitalist pursuits, but most of them did care about our country and democracy. This new breed couldn't give a rat's ass.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
36. Disagree...
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jul 2021

... I believe the representative "All That Is Wrong in This World" title winner is Donald Trump.

Blue Owl

(50,351 posts)
37. This video made me hate him even more
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jul 2021

Why couldn’t he have hit an underwater rock and been impaled by that flagpole?


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