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struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 08:57 PM Jul 2021

AZ auditors say they don't have enough information to finish report

JULY 16, 2021 / 1:33 PM / CBS/AP

Contractors hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to oversee a partisan review of the 2020 election said Thursday that they don't have enough information yet to complete their report, and they want legislators to subpoena more records and survey tens of thousands of voters at home ...

Senate Republicans had already planned to canvass homes and ask people about their voting patterns, but in May dropped the idea under pressure from the U.S. Department of Justice, which warned the effort could violate laws against voter intimidation ...

Before Logan was contracted by the Arizona Senate to conduct the audit, he spread conspiracy theories backing former President Trump's false claims of fraud, including one linking Dominion voting machines to the late Venezuelan dictator, Hugo Chavez ...

Jack Sellers, the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, said in a statement that the auditors are "portraying as suspicious what is actually normal and well known to people who work in elections" ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-election-audit-need-information-report-results/

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AZ auditors say they don't have enough information to finish report (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2021 OP
One county Fullduplexxx Jul 2021 #1
What the AZ "audit" is going to do struggle4progress Jul 2021 #2
"might violate federal law"...Does it, or does it not? Why use "might", one would expect these Escurumbele Jul 2021 #20
No clear end in sight struggle4progress Jul 2021 #3
The point of the 'audit' is to never finish the audit struggle4progress Jul 2021 #4
I think you make an excellent point. Blue Dawn Jul 2021 #22
That's Charles Pierce, not me struggle4progress Jul 2021 #23
What a scam. C_U_L8R Jul 2021 #5
No sh*t, sherlock. elleng Jul 2021 #6
They need videotape of every voters birth to confirm. nt chowder66 Jul 2021 #7
"survey tens of thousands of voters at home" Takket Jul 2021 #8
Do they have Castle Doctrine malaise Jul 2021 #9
Will that Traildogbob Jul 2021 #15
Love the Buy Bull malaise Jul 2021 #16
Maricopa County on its twitter feed Tomconroy Jul 2021 #10
Shorter version: "we got nothing" Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #11
This! susanr516 Jul 2021 #18
Gosh, they'll need a lot more money to do all that. tanyev Jul 2021 #12
They want to survey tens of thousands of people in their homes? How is that going to work? Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #13
Two goons show up at your Maricopa Cty residence. Goons: "Did you vote for Trump or Biden?" Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #14
That's what you get when you trust a company called "Cyber Ninjas". Initech Jul 2021 #17
Sorry, I only speak englisc Retrograde Jul 2021 #19
don't have enough information (that they want) keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #21

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
2. What the AZ "audit" is going to do
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jul 2021

BY JEREMY STAHL
JULY 16, 202111:49 AM

On Thursday, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann offered the public its clearest picture yet of the monthslong audit of Maricopa County’s election, holding a hearing with auditor, Cyber Ninjas CEO, and Hugo-Chavez-somehow-corrupted-the-2020-election-despite-being-dead conspiracy theorist Doug Logan.

Logan, whose work pretending to hand-tabulate the ballots and checking for bamboo fibers in ballot paper ended three weeks ago, offered very little about what his “recount” and “forensic analysis” had uncovered. He instead said that he had much work still to do and that he would save his “irrefutable” evidence for his final report. Logan is asking the state Senate to issue further subpoenas to the Republican-dominated Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (who have come to see the audit as a dangerous “circus”) and to let him go ahead with a countywide canvass that the U.S. Department of Justice has warned might violate federal law. Indeed, the only other Republican senator taking part in the hearing, Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen, made a show of repeatedly insisting that unless Logan is given what he wants, the audit will be “incomplete” ...

The breadcrumbs that Logan, Petersen, and Fann laid out in the hearing were enough to preview what is likely in store when Logan releases his report in the weeks ahead.* Without specifically challenging the vote count, Logan spent much of the hearing dropping outrageous-sounding numbers of suspicious vote tallies to insinuate fraud without actually proving anything. This appears to be Logan’s ultimate game plan, straight out of the Kraken playbook: Drop dozens of disproven or easily disprovable charges into a report, claim there is a massive cover-up of election fraud, and wave his hands at the big picture even as his charges are easily shown, one by one, to be lies ...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/trump-declares-victory-arizona-audit-debunked.html

Escurumbele

(3,372 posts)
20. "might violate federal law"...Does it, or does it not? Why use "might", one would expect these
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jul 2021

people to know the law...Please say it, it either does or it does not, this is a "yes" or "no" kind of issue. I really dislike the use of "maybe", "might" and so forth on these kind of issues, the law has to be clear.

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
3. No clear end in sight
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jul 2021

BY TAL AXELROD - 07/16/21 02:07 PM EDT

... Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp shot down a motion from the GOP to dismiss a lawsuit from liberal watchdog group American Oversight seeking documents related to the state Senate’s audit.

Attorneys for the Republicans had argued that the information, which is currently in the possession of the private contracting firm Cyber Ninjas, is not obtainable under public disclosure rules. But Kemp rejected that argument Wednesday.

"Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants' responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turn hires subvendors," the judge wrote ...

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/563416-arizona-audit-muddles-on-with-no-clear-end-in-sight

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
4. The point of the 'audit' is to never finish the audit
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jul 2021

By Charles P. Pierce
Jul 16, 2021

On Thursday afternoon, out in Arizona, there was a hearing in the state senate regarding the extended farce now in its third month out at the fairgrounds. You will be shocked, I’m sure, to know that it’s now feeding back on itself, a Möbius strip for dicks, in such a way that it never may end, which is sort of the point, because the entire exercise is meant to keep uncertainty alive among the rubes about the clear results of the election ...

... This is a political perpetual-motion machine that is designed never to finish its purported “job.” As is the case with all ratfcking, the process itself is the point.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a37048550/arizona-2020-election-audit-continue-forever/

Blue Dawn

(892 posts)
22. I think you make an excellent point.
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 01:45 AM
Jul 2021

If it remains an open " investigation, " then the big lie continues and the Magats can remain convinced that Biden did not win Arizona. They can keep this going until the next election takes place.

It truly is a "Mobius strip for dicks," as you so brilliantly described it.



Takket

(21,524 posts)
8. "survey tens of thousands of voters at home"
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jul 2021

Read that as: bring angry MAGAts into black neighborhoods and try to intimidate the people living there. I hope these communities get together and run these scumbags right out of town if they try this.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
15. Will that
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 11:00 PM
Jul 2021

Allow them to confiscate your Bible and Guns if they go door to door? Excuse me, Bible’s. (BuyBull)

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
10. Maricopa County on its twitter feed
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jul 2021

Offered a point by point refutation of all the Ninja claims in real time.
There never will be a final report. The Ninjas know they will be sued the moment it drops.

Srkdqltr

(6,207 posts)
13. They want to survey tens of thousands of people in their homes? How is that going to work?
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jul 2021

Will give then job security for the foreseeable future.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
14. Two goons show up at your Maricopa Cty residence. Goons: "Did you vote for Trump or Biden?"
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jul 2021

Voter: "Biden"

Goons: "Nice place you have here, be a shame if something happened to it." "Who did you vote for again?"

Retrograde

(10,119 posts)
19. Sorry, I only speak englisc
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jul 2021

and if you are going to use the French/Latin words like "election" and "choice" I can not speak with you.

(yeah, I know Anglo-Saxon was not pronounced the way we speak English now, but still can insist that they only use words that originated in that language. Or Polish, since I can say "Go to hell" in that language.)

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
21. don't have enough information (that they want)
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jul 2021

don't have enough information (that they want)

They do not want the truth.

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