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malaise

(269,212 posts)
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 09:42 AM Jul 2021

Serious question - Are white supremacy groups working for the ReTHUGs

Not one ReTHUG has condemned this,
The leadership of the Democratic Party needs to make more about these links and the environment created by the Slobfather and his lies.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1016844817/2-california-men-have-been-charged-with-plotting-to-bomb-a-democratic-building

Two California men who were angry about former President Donald Trump's 2020 election loss have been indicted on charges they plotted to firebomb the Democratic Party's headquarters in Sacramento.

The defendants, 45-year-old Ian Rogers and 37-year-old Jarrod Copeland, are both facing one count of conspiracy to destroy a building by fire or explosives. Rogers has also been charged with firearms and explosives offenses, while Copeland is facing an additional obstruction of justice charge.

Prosecutors say the two men were upset about the outcome of the 2020 presidential election and wanted to jump-start a "movement" to overthrow the government. They hoped to recruit others to their cause and even reached out to the Proud Boys to try to rally support.

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Serious question - Are white supremacy groups working for the ReTHUGs (Original Post) malaise Jul 2021 OP
Racists and polluters underpants Jul 2021 #1
Democrats should be calling them out malaise Jul 2021 #4
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #2
More 'Working In Tandem With', Ma'am, I Think The Magistrate Jul 2021 #3
Dems must expose these links over and over Sir malaise Jul 2021 #7
I've been sure of it since Charlottesville. 2naSalit Jul 2021 #5
It's the main reason zentrum Jul 2021 #6
But you repeat yourself. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #8
Deliberately malaise Jul 2021 #9
YES pressbox69 Jul 2021 #10
For the rethug party, proud boys, etc multigraincracker Jul 2021 #11
It appears they are criminally like minded. spanone Jul 2021 #12
They are so symbiotic I don't know how you can tell.. ananda Jul 2021 #13
They are the Republicans iemanja Jul 2021 #14
I think they are. I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #15
+1, weren't some rich assholes along with generals plotting to kill FDR long ago? uponit7771 Jul 2021 #18
Rich greedy sociopaths I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #21
Of course they are. plimsoll Jul 2021 #16
WHOA !!! This is some shit here !! We ***KNEW*** They'd escalate and they are !! Anyone telling me.. uponit7771 Jul 2021 #17
Trumpism has taken over the GOP, but as for hate groups in general, you can check with... Hekate Jul 2021 #19
dont forget the russians . these groups have been quietly in the background , popping AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #20
Kick....n/t Upthevibe Jul 2021 #22
White supremacist groups are a means to an end for the GOP, hadEnuf Jul 2021 #23
I hear you but malaise Jul 2021 #24
Absolutely time to call them out. hadEnuf Jul 2021 #28
You're right malaise Jul 2021 #29
white supremacists are the GOP stillcool Jul 2021 #25
They're the GOP base Azathoth Jul 2021 #26
Oh My! malaise Jul 2021 #27

malaise

(269,212 posts)
4. Democrats should be calling them out
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jul 2021

Where do ReTHUGs stand if these allegations are correct?

Dems should demand that ReTHUGs warn these terrorists that they are on their own.

I need some ads from Occupy Democrats and other progressive folks

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
3. More 'Working In Tandem With', Ma'am, I Think
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jul 2021

There is considerable overlap in their goals, if not an identity between them, and so each finds the other a help, and feels the other can be used to good purpose.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
10. YES
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jul 2021

They are. They must be shut down and crushed. Maybe the GOP can join America sometime in the future but right now they are all dangerous traitors.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
21. Rich greedy sociopaths
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jul 2021

Have wanted to kill every good politician that wanted to help the poor and working class have better lives.

FDR was no exception.

plimsoll

(1,671 posts)
16. Of course they are.
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jul 2021

However, they don't order specific actions. They have to maintain plausible deniability. They've bought into their own propaganda for so long that they honestly think that whatever they believe is the "Real America(TM)"

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
17. WHOA !!! This is some shit here !! We ***KNEW*** They'd escalate and they are !! Anyone telling me..
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

... this thing with Putin's Whore isn't going to get worse is discreted long ago but after this what more do we need?

Hekate

(90,858 posts)
19. Trumpism has taken over the GOP, but as for hate groups in general, you can check with...
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jul 2021

…Right Wing Watch and SPLC. “ Trumpism” would be the overarching set of beliefs that unites them as fellow-travellers.

The Magistrate has it correctly: they are useful to each other.

AllaN01Bear

(18,520 posts)
20. dont forget the russians . these groups have been quietly in the background , popping
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jul 2021

their heads off now and then and being the darlings of the news media for a long time . then comes along the oregon wildlife refuge takeover , a dress rehersal, now the idiot in charge of that may be running for gov of idaho. then the attempted murder of gov whitmer, yet another dress rehersal.along comes fayetteville . an then 1/6 . hem

hadEnuf

(2,218 posts)
23. White supremacist groups are a means to an end for the GOP,
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jul 2021

as is practically everything else with them.

As you may recall, a very large portion of the GOP thought that Trump was complete joke in the lead up to 2016. But once he was engineered into the nomination and then the presidency he is now their emperor.

Plainly said, the GOP will get into bed with anybody to further their agenda.

That's why they are always screaming about morals. They actually have none.

malaise

(269,212 posts)
24. I hear you but
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jul 2021

aren't the white supremacists now a significant part of their base?

It's time to call them out

hadEnuf

(2,218 posts)
28. Absolutely time to call them out.
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jul 2021

I think white supremacy is the original base of the modern GOP.

LBJ purged a large portion of the hard-core racist Dems in the 1960's. Where did they go? Where did Reagan start his campaign in 1980? How about Newt Gingrich's strategy?
The list goes on.

What the GOP was once very careful about is now becoming more evident. Their masks are slipping off.

malaise

(269,212 posts)
29. You're right
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jul 2021

They moved over to the ReTHUGs after the Civil Rights Act but at least they used to pretend - now it's open season for the racists.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
26. They're the GOP base
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jul 2021

White identity movements and Christian fundamentalist movements are the backbone of the GOP base.

They don't work for the GOP; the GOP work for them, while attempting to maintain the appearance of keeping them at arms length solely for PR reasons.

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