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kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:37 PM Jul 2021

Would you go on a cruise thats main selling point is to celebrate your FREEDOM

Got a post card for a cruise leaving from Memphis to New Orleans going down the Mississippi River.

This cruise line advertised:

Free from masks
Free from social distancing
Free from pre-cruise testing
Free from quarantining

Aboard our vessels you are FREE to smile, FREE to mingle and socialize, FREE to explore ashore and free to laugh, dance and have fun!

All I have do is book my voyage to take advantage of FREEDOM!!!!!!

When I got this card at first I was amazed how much FREEDOM this cruise could offer me!
Not !!! There is no friggin way I would go on any cruise that advertises so much FREEEEEDDDOOOMMMM! I could just imagine this would attract a lot of white MAGAS and people of color would not be welcome. It would be true torture on that boat.


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Would you go on a cruise thats main selling point is to celebrate your FREEDOM (Original Post) kimbutgar Jul 2021 OP
Cruises were bad enough before COVID-19 arrived EYESORE 9001 Jul 2021 #1
+10 sakabatou Jul 2021 #3
I've been on 20 cruises and haven't experienced a single one of those items. jimfields33 Jul 2021 #14
I stood under a 450ft tower in the middle of a lightning storm and did not get hit. I swam across retread Jul 2021 #19
Yep. Keep experiencing life's adventures jimfields33 Jul 2021 #20
Absolutely FUCKING NOT! sakabatou Jul 2021 #2
Lol. No one equates being confined on a cruise ship with freedom. blm Jul 2021 #4
Here's a borchure "Ship of the Damned" IA8IT Jul 2021 #5
I think this was made into a movie years ago kimbutgar Jul 2021 #7
The Philadelphia Experiment sir pball Jul 2021 #15
And it was all based on a misunderstanding lapfog_1 Jul 2021 #18
Oh, I was fascinated by it in college sir pball Jul 2021 #25
Not sure...all-inclusive cruise drink package? Shermann Jul 2021 #6
Yes the front part of the card says open bars and lounges kimbutgar Jul 2021 #8
One could jump off the back of the ship to be free from involuntary locomotion and buoyancy! nt Shermann Jul 2021 #10
Free from proof you wont' kill other passengers with pathogen Pobeka Jul 2021 #9
"free from pre-cruise testing" would rule it out for me. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #11
Free to die YOUR way. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #12
I would go if KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #13
We can't have that, now can we? jmowreader Jul 2021 #26
Entirely likely. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #28
Being on a ship with hundreds or thousands of complete strangers malaise Jul 2021 #16
I want freedom Turbineguy Jul 2021 #17
Freedom to catch SARS-CoV-2. roamer65 Jul 2021 #21
I woulda never went on one BEFORE covid. Iggo Jul 2021 #22
Being on the introverted side, I find no appeal at all... 3catwoman3 Jul 2021 #23
Freedom to be locked away on a ship? Hell no! LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #24
Unless they have FREE bourbon, I'll exercise my FREEDOM to not go jmowreader Jul 2021 #27
Hell no ! Everything you said luckone Jul 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #30

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
1. Cruises were bad enough before COVID-19 arrived
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:42 PM
Jul 2021

Food poisoning, e. coli, and respiratory viruses thrive in the confining environment of a cruise ship. You couldn’t PAY me to take a cruise.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
14. I've been on 20 cruises and haven't experienced a single one of those items.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:15 PM
Jul 2021

I’m hoping 2022 we will be able to cruise again.

retread

(3,922 posts)
19. I stood under a 450ft tower in the middle of a lightning storm and did not get hit. I swam across
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 05:05 PM
Jul 2021

an alligator infested river and did not get bitten. You see where I'm going here?

IA8IT

(6,424 posts)
5. Here's a borchure "Ship of the Damned"
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.amazon.com/Ship-Damned-James-F-David/dp/0812576462

On October 28, 1943, a U.S. Navy ship was successfully teleported with disastrous effects on its crew. Crewmen died, developed rare or yet unidentified diseases, and most horrifying of all, some became fused to the metal, their arms and legs protruding from the bulkhead.

A team of psychologists has gathered at a small university to study and analyze the same reoccurring dream of seven completely different people. The dream involves a large navy ship in a vast desert with soldiers trapped inside the bulkheads. Slowly, by depriving the dreamers of REM sleep, the dreams are killing the dreamers.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
7. I think this was made into a movie years ago
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jul 2021

The plot line sounds familiar.

But yeah this would be a major ship of the damned!

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
15. The Philadelphia Experiment
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jul 2021

It was a conspiracy theory long before it was a movie. It spawned the Montauk Project conspiracy theory, which is the basis of Stranger Things...like, ST so blatantly copied it that the early title for thr series was "Montauk".

I'm kind of surprised it hasn't gained new traction with the Qooks, it is all about children being kidnapped for nefarious shadow-government purposes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
18. And it was all based on a misunderstanding
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 05:03 PM
Jul 2021

The ship was "degaussed" (wrapped in copper cable to which a charge was applied to remove residual magnetic properties as much as possible so that it could operate in waters where there were magnetic torpedoes). The people doing the "experiment" told the crew that it would make the ship "invisible" to the enemy.

And the crew made up the rest of story by letting their imaginations run wild.

"According to Edward Dudgeon, who served in the U.S. Navy aboard the USS Engstrom, which was dry-docked in the Philadelphia Naval Yard while the Eldridge was, both ships did have classified devices on board. They were neither invisibility cloaks nor teleportation drives designed by aliens, but instead, they scrambled the magnetic signatures of ships using the degaussing technique, which provided protection from magnetic torpedoes aboard U-boats.

How Stuff Works suggested that the "green glow" reported by witnesses that day could be explained by an electric storm or St. Elmo's Fire which, in addition to being an American coming-of-age film starring the Brat Pack, is a weather phenomenon in which plasma is created in a strong electric field, giving off a bright glow, almost like fire.

Finally, inland canals connected Norfolk to Philadelphia, allowing a ship to travel between the two in a few hours." (from military.com)

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
25. Oh, I was fascinated by it in college
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jul 2021

Still am, actually. I was at college in The Hamptons where I first heard about it, I was in the car that Saturday heading out for a looksee. I'll freely admit that I have seen some random/weird stuff out at Montauk (actually, not just me), but the Project is a level of woo that I can't even begin to understand. TWA800, aliens, interdimensional/time travel...it actually makes Q look sane. Of course, I also worked at Brookhaven so maybe that's just what they want me to say

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
6. Not sure...all-inclusive cruise drink package?
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jul 2021

I should be free from those oppressive bar tabs.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
8. Yes the front part of the card says open bars and lounges
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jul 2021

What could go wrong with those type of people who’d go on that cruise ?

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
10. One could jump off the back of the ship to be free from involuntary locomotion and buoyancy! nt
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jul 2021

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
11. "free from pre-cruise testing" would rule it out for me.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:04 PM
Jul 2021

Unless they expressly require verifiably documented vaccination for everyone (and ** pre-cruise testing for children under 11 or anyone claiming an exemption from vaccination for any reason + daily or every other day testing for those same individuals)

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
26. We can't have that, now can we?
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jul 2021

The beleaguered scow would come back into port with you, a couple of enginemen, a deck hand and the third officer the only people you didn’t throw over the side.

malaise

(296,105 posts)
16. Being on a ship with hundreds or thousands of complete strangers
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jul 2021

(with no way to escape at will) is already my definition of the absence of freedom. Upi wi;; never ever see me on a cruise.
That said. to advertise a cruise as if public health priorities are some threat to freedom is offensive on steroids.

Turbineguy

(40,074 posts)
17. I want freedom
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jul 2021

from the laws of physics. I want to walk on water.

Anything else is tyranny (or was that tranny?)

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
21. Freedom to catch SARS-CoV-2.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jul 2021

Freedom to die from it.

Go right ahead, anti-vax morons, please do.

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
23. Being on the introverted side, I find no appeal at all...
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 06:37 PM
Jul 2021

…to the idea of going on a cruise, even if there were no risk of illness.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
27. Unless they have FREE bourbon, I'll exercise my FREEDOM to not go
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 08:13 PM
Jul 2021

I’d rather be locked in a room with Donald Trump than go on a cruise…at the very least I could perform a little wall-to-wall counseling on our esteemed KGB agent of a former president.

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