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Stop calling it a labor shortage. It's a wage shortage. (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Jul 2021 OP
when one has to work 5 jobs in order to rent a cheep 620 square foot apartment , AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #1
True, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #2
Don't get me wrong I support higher wages but I do wonder how many companies cstanleytech Jul 2021 #3
99.9% can afford to pay, it's simple economics KS Toronado Jul 2021 #4
No business which depends for existence... ret5hd Jul 2021 #6
no, it isnt. you cant get a contractor these days at any price. mopinko Jul 2021 #5
It's a final straw lame54 Jul 2021 #7
Yup, this might be the best opportunity in generations to help workers Amishman Jul 2021 #8
It's not even *just* the wages. Think about it... ck4829 Jul 2021 #9

AllaN01Bear

(18,159 posts)
1. when one has to work 5 jobs in order to rent a cheep 620 square foot apartment ,
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jul 2021

you are a poverty enabler not a job creator.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. True, Sir
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:20 PM
Jul 2021

This is straight out of Mr. Adam Smith: there is no shortage of labor, there is a shortage of labor at the price employers wish to pay to obtain it. Just like any other good on the market.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
4. 99.9% can afford to pay, it's simple economics
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:14 AM
Jul 2021

but watch reQublicans scream about the injustice being done to that .1%. And they would have
went out of business anyway relying on a business model of "cheap labor"

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
5. no, it isnt. you cant get a contractor these days at any price.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:46 AM
Jul 2021

i never whine or dicker about what people want to get paid.
i offer $15 for unskilled work, $20 for skilled. plus a tip for most people.
tradespeople name their price, and i pay it, thank you very much.

but i have hella time finding good people.
i'm not the easiest person on the planet to work for, but i'm far from a slave driver.

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
8. Yup, this might be the best opportunity in generations to help workers
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 05:55 AM
Jul 2021

Because change is coming.

Self driving trucking is on the way and is being backed by big players. The company discussed in the second link will be ready for fully autonomous (no driver on board) real world testing later this year.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2021/06/30/amazon-goes-all-in-on-truck-safety-with-autonomous-driving-company-plus/amp/
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/14/world/tusimple-autonomous-truck-spc-intl/index.html

Automation is coming for farm labor too

https://www.techcrunch.com/2021/07/01/after-8-4m-raise-strawberry-picking-robotics-startup-traptic-begins-commercial-deployment/amp/

And we've all seen the push for self order via app or kiosks in fast food.

My job is building banking systems with a focus on automated possessing, which eliminates back office review and processing jobs.

The current swing of power I'm favor of the worker is going to be temporary, automation and robotics will be eliminating jobs by the millions later this decade.

ck4829

(35,045 posts)
9. It's not even *just* the wages. Think about it...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 06:26 AM
Jul 2021

Do you wanna commute out to this place that is outside the range of public transportation, if your town is lucky enough to have it at all, on your dime?

Do you wanna get treated like garbage by Karens and people who take "the customer is always right" cliche to act like entitled royalty at your expense with their psychotic demands and attacks on your tone of speech even?

Do you wanna work hard and watch other people less qualified than you use superficial charm to get promoted while you are going to be stuck in the same position?

Do you wanna work hard and do all the work while managers yuk it up in the office?

And do you wanna do it all for low wages and no benefits?

If you said "yes" to the above, then you are a good fit for "unskilled" labor.

So maybe there's a masochist shortage?

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