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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:05 AM Jul 2021

The Blue Origin flight is a lot shorter than Virgin Galactic

From launch to detachment of the passenger capsule / zero G is only two minutes, followed by 3-4 minutes of suborbit, followed by parachute descent and landing in 11 minutes.

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The Blue Origin flight is a lot shorter than Virgin Galactic (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2021 OP
so cool!!!! samnsara Jul 2021 #1
Oh, come on people! Hugin Jul 2021 #2
Apparently that big phallus can't keep it up. (Bezos can't keep it up!) TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #3
The primary reason is that the New Shepard craft LastDemocratInSC Jul 2021 #4
My recollection was that VG gave you 10-15 minutes in zero-G, as opposed to 3-4 on New Shepard. brooklynite Jul 2021 #5
VG provides more zero G time but I think it's not a lot more. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2021 #6
Reports are it was 5 minutes edhopper Jul 2021 #7
Very similar times of weightlessness. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2021 #8
According To WHITT Jul 2021 #14
When all is said and done... Hugin Jul 2021 #9
What I find truly impressive is SpaceX. As I recall, a Falcon Heavy can put payloads into orbit for Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #10
It's that price/weight ratio which is key to really moving into space. Hugin Jul 2021 #11
So Bezos finishes more quickly? tinrobot Jul 2021 #12
I Think WHITT Jul 2021 #13

Hugin

(33,032 posts)
2. Oh, come on people!
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

It's going to take longer than that to get into the 4.76 mile club.


Uh, or so I've heard.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,645 posts)
4. The primary reason is that the New Shepard craft
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:21 AM
Jul 2021

doesn't need to be carried to 50,000 feet to be launched. It is launched from the ground and gets up to high altitude quickly on its own.

I suspect the time that between the actual launch of each craft, and the time to landing, is similar.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,645 posts)
6. VG provides more zero G time but I think it's not a lot more.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jul 2021

VG flies along a parabolic arc. The VG engine runs for a short period to get up to about Mach 3 and when the engine is turned off zero G begins and continues while the craft is flying the arc. On the down side of the arc zero G ends when the first atmospheric drag occurs.

New Shepard is similar but it flies straight up. Zero G begins when the engine is turned off and the craft is released. The rocket starts its descent but the manned craft continues to the highest altitude when it begins falling pretty much straight down. Zero G ends when the stabilizing parachute is released.

I'm not sure of the timings but VG flies a greater distance in zero G because of the parabolic. That might account for longer weightless time.

edhopper

(33,467 posts)
7. Reports are it was 5 minutes
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jul 2021

Bezos reached 55 miles, while Branson got to 62 miles.

If anyone is measuring dicks.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,645 posts)
8. Very similar times of weightlessness.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:52 AM
Jul 2021

If you throw a baseball straight out (no vertical rise) it will hit the ground at the same time as a baseball that's dropped from the same height. The baseballs will experience zero G (microgravity, really, because of the atmospheric drag) but the "time of flight" will be the same. But the ball that was thrown will travel a greater distance.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
14. According To
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jul 2021

NASA, the FAA, and the Air Force, they were both sub-orbital space flights. Rather petty for Bezos to try and claim it's only the case if the Karman Line is crossed. Nobody would be able to delineate between being 54 miles up and 64 miles up.

Hugin

(33,032 posts)
9. When all is said and done...
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jul 2021

I'm much more impressed with the Virgin Galactic technology in the long run for a number of reasons.

It was nice to see it proven.

And, yes, I think it has a future beyond launching rich folks into space.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
10. What I find truly impressive is SpaceX. As I recall, a Falcon Heavy can put payloads into orbit for
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jul 2021

only one tenth the cost per kg as a Delta IV. And if the Starship proves sucessful, it's projected to reduce such costs by an additional 99%, down to only $10 per kg.

Hugin

(33,032 posts)
11. It's that price/weight ratio which is key to really moving into space.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jul 2021

I share a belief in a staged approach to space exploration with several of the early rocket pioneers.

Which was steadily being worked on until the space race intervened and the one shot quick firsts took over.

That requires a low launch cost to build up an off Earth infrastructure to support truly monumental development of zero G industry and long distance space exploration.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
13. I Think
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jul 2021

the slower glider ride/view back down would be pretty freaking spectacular in it's own right, instead of dropping like a rock until the chutes open.

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