Pelosi's spokesperson tests positive for Covid-19 after meeting with Texas Dems

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Just in: Senior spokesperson in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office tests positive for coronavirus after meeting with Texas Dems last week, per source
7:55 AM · Jul 20, 2021

[JohnSJ]

1. The whole thing was irresponsible. None of the Texas delegates wore mask the in the plane or bus.

and they weren’t tested before they met with anyone in Washington

I am very disappointed in the lax behavior

[Treefrog]

2. I agree. This is backfiring on them big time.

Smh.

[Ms. Toad]

5. Aside from the transportation rules -

designed on the presumption that transportaion will contain a mixture of vaccinated and unvaccinated, isn't their behavior exactly what the CDC is telling us is safe?

All 55 were vaccinated so, per the CDC, masks weren't needed in enclosed spaces. So the fact that the closed spaces were in a moving vehicle isn't really relevant - IF - the CDC guidance is accurate.

I am also disappointed in the lax behavior - but I am more disappointed in the CDC's shortsighted view of the pandemic, the Delta variant, and how any rational person would expect their guidance to have been received.

I hope this data point (and other similar ones) demonstrate to the CDC that they need to change their guidance - since far too many people are treating the vaccine as some sort of impervious shield - and it's not.

[SWBTATTReg]

3. And the governor was threatening to forcibly vote on the voter suppression law(s) in TX,

I wonder where the original Covid infection started from? From the other TX legislators? How many of these democratic legislators were immunized (as a result of the Pfizer shot(s), etc.)? Just how desperate TX was/is in passing voter suppression laws?

[jimfields33]

4. Doesn't matter. Ha they worn a mask, none of this would happen.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. It does matter, it takes a while for the virus to incubate, and then finally get to the infectious

state, backtracking source of infections is important and of course, wearing a mask is important, I didn't say this ... somewhere in TX they have a raging COVID infection (or a few of them raging

[Ms. Toad]

7. All 55 were immunized, according to anarticle I read yesterday. n/t

[SWBTATTReg]

9. Thanks. I hope that none of them will have any serious issues and all get well. It's a shame but

I wonder where in the world did the original source of the Covid outbreak come from? I suspect probably somewhere in TX, but who/what/when/where/etc.? That's the thing about this disease (and especially w/ the faster variant of Covid), that it spreads so rapidly.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. How close did this get to the Speaker? This is frightening.

[Ms. Toad]

11. Don't know - but they met with VP Harris.

Psaki is holding the current party line - masks are all that is needed. Per her press conference yesterday, no special precautions are being taken.

"Based on the timeline of these positive tests, it was determined the Vice President and her staff present at the meeting were not at risk of exposure because they were not in close contact with those who tested positive and therefore do not need to be tested or quarantined," Ms. Sanders said, adding that the vice president and her staff are fully vaccinated.

Unfortunately, Delta doesn't follow the rules for "close contact," and the entire delegation was vaccinated and still came down with COVID.

[rockfordfile]

10. Something isn't right about this.

Somebody isn't telling the truth. Did you really get vaccinated?

[Ms. Toad]

12. Vaccination is not a magic shield

Even under the best circumstances (original COVID) it is 95% effective.

Against the Delta variant, for the same levelof exposure, with the most optimistic numbers the effectiveness drops to about 80%.

That's assuming that Delta is only 60% more contagious than the original - I saw data yesterday that suggests it is 156% more contagious - alpha was a 60% increase over the original, and delta is a 60% increase over that.

That's assuming they had mRNA vaccines - the effectiveness of J&J is roughly 50% when the increased infectiveness of delta is taken into account.

That's assuming only a drop to 88% effectiveness against Delta (without regard to the decreased exposure).

Instead of accusing Democrats of lying about vaccination status, how about reviewing literature designed for scientific consumption that will allow you to understand how serious this situation is. You need accurate, complete, data to understand this - not the "miniscule" descriptors used in the press. Not the .0027% number which is a snapshot in time that (among other things) doesn't capture your long-term chances of becoming infected - even though it is being described that way.