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After the wall-to-wall reversal by the GOPee on vaccines I find myself . . . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2021 OP
News broke yesterday that Faux has employee vax "passport" SheltieLover Jul 2021 #1
Yeah, I read that. I got the impression they did it on the down-low Stinky The Clown Jul 2021 #6
Seems so SheltieLover Jul 2021 #7
I know what you mean -- one must always wonder ... it's possible they just came to the conclusion fishwax Jul 2021 #2
maybe they know that a variant shitstorm is coming spanone Jul 2021 #3
Lawsuits. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #4
Bingo! When Biden called them out wnylib Jul 2021 #37
Yep. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #38
I would love to see successful class wnylib Jul 2021 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2021 #39
I doubt that they are that forward looking. Blue_true Jul 2021 #19
I bet internal polling indicated a wipeout for the GOP if Covid continued DBoon Jul 2021 #5
Now **THAT** is a delicious thought. Stinky The Clown Jul 2021 #11
That is already a done deal. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #12
Agreed. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #28
Hannity seems to have reversed course. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #47
I don't think it's suspicious at all. NanceGreggs Jul 2021 #8
What I guessed.. only not in so many Cha Jul 2021 #13
What was remarkable was the orchestration. Mister Ed Jul 2021 #30
Yeah, the talking point spread in a hurry ... NanceGreggs Jul 2021 #43
YEP, The people who watch their advertising are dying in droves Captain Zero Jul 2021 #48
I wildly guessed that "..their Cha Jul 2021 #9
And the stock market took a hit the other day Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #14
I believe it.. but in what Cha Jul 2021 #15
Uncertainty. And fear of lockdown and the economy breaking down again. When Maraya1969 Jul 2021 #20
Mahalo, Maraya! Cha Jul 2021 #26
The stock market was presumably reacting to Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #25
TY! Cha Jul 2021 #27
Bingo. We have a winner. Hamlette Jul 2021 #41
Lawsuits. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #16
Lawsuits?.. What kind of lawsuits? TY! Cha Jul 2021 #23
Dunno. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #29
Oh I see what you mean now.. Mahalo, she! Cha Jul 2021 #32
Sorry. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #33
In a Just World they would be. Cha Jul 2021 #36
The GOP only care about itself . . . . Lovie777 Jul 2021 #10
They're trying to prevent a mass suicide by deplorables dalton99a Jul 2021 #17
You aren't the only one. Those assholes found out something. Blue_true Jul 2021 #18
They are taking a huge hit with negative publicity. Always Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #21
History will forever preserve the fact TheProle Jul 2021 #22
They did the math and realized their voter suppression ego_nation Jul 2021 #24
Dumb shits finally realize they're decimating their base Blue Owl Jul 2021 #31
They HAD to already know it was mostly killing... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #34
Yet Jared's and Donald's plan was to finagle resources to enhance more deaths in democrat areas. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #45
Maybe so. It was so strange to me how Kasich... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #46
A bunch of vaccinated people telling unvaccinated people to not get vaxxed doesn't look good. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #35
delta is a perfect killing machine for unvaccinated republican voters AlexSFCA Jul 2021 #42
Fox Employees are Vaccinated and Lawsuits. I think it could be those two considering how sudden it JI7 Jul 2021 #44
the market tanked... agingdem Jul 2021 #49

Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
6. Yeah, I read that. I got the impression they did it on the down-low
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:39 PM
Jul 2021

But maybe not. I can imagine them doing it for selfish reasons - to protect their "talent".

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
2. I know what you mean -- one must always wonder ... it's possible they just came to the conclusion
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:32 PM
Jul 2021

that their states and their voters were the ones who were going to be left vulnerable

wnylib

(21,448 posts)
37. Bingo! When Biden called them out
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:56 AM
Jul 2021

in plain, direct language as killers with their disinformation, they knew that they might be sued by angry people who believed them and got sick or lost loved ones to covid. Self interest motivated them to distance themselves from anti vax BS.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
38. Yep.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:04 AM
Jul 2021

Exactly.

Aiding and abetting?

May be to late for them. It has been over a year and now it is escalating. Wonder if some doctors and nurses can sue them as well.

Fugg Fox.

wnylib

(21,448 posts)
40. I would love to see successful class
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jul 2021

action suits put Fox and the rest out of business. Don't suppose it will happen, but sure wish it would.

Response to wnylib (Reply #37)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I doubt that they are that forward looking.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:10 AM
Jul 2021

Remember, those are the assholes who called our side alarmist about climate change and made all types of degrading jokes about us.

My guess is their numbers people have shown them the county map of where people are dying of the a Delta variant, and they realize that they will be losing a lot of toss up House and Senate races in 2022 unless they stop the carnage in red America.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
5. I bet internal polling indicated a wipeout for the GOP if Covid continued
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jul 2021

I think Fox News is a follower and not a leader.

I think there is NO concern about the well being of their voters.

My suspicion is that if the pandemic continued in red states, the GOP would suffer humiliating defeats.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
12. That is already a done deal.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:46 PM
Jul 2021

The delta virus is out of control. They are a little late.

Fact is we are all back to being screwed.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
28. Agreed.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:28 AM
Jul 2021

We're on track to have well over 200,000 cases by September 8 (that was the calculation when the 2-week increase was 109% - now it's around 200%).

Even if they start the vacciation process today, and get Pfizer (the shortest, highly effective vaccination), it will be August 25 before they are fully vaccinated. That's already well over 100,000 cases a day (again, using the 109% increase, not the current one). I don't even want to plug the number in for the current rate of increase.

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
47. Hannity seems to have reversed course.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:18 AM
Jul 2021

Hannity seems to have reversed course.

Will Tucker also follow along?

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
8. I don't think it's suspicious at all.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jul 2021

They've finally figured out the bleedin' obvious - that it's mostly Republican supporters who are refusing to be vaccinated and/or take other precautions. Ergo, it's their own voters who will be dying as a result.

So the GOP is down to two choices: (a) promote the vaccine to their constituents, or (b) figure out a way to make it legal for the dead to vote.



Mister Ed

(5,931 posts)
30. What was remarkable was the orchestration.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jul 2021

The entire right wing turned on a dime, in unison - politicians and pundits alike.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
43. Yeah, the talking point spread in a hurry ...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:25 AM
Jul 2021

... when the stats started being reported. Kind of hard to push the 'vaccinations are pointless' meme - when it's the unvaccinated who are sickening and dying at such an alarming rate.

Given the gullibility and abject stupidity of the average Republican voter, one can only wonder how many of them will finally realize that they've so obviously been lied to all along.


Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
48. YEP, The people who watch their advertising are dying in droves
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:23 AM
Jul 2021

They won't have an audience for their advertisers and what advertiser wants to spend money if the audience has died?

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
14. And the stock market took a hit the other day
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:50 PM
Jul 2021

That's when s**t REALLY starts to get real for them.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
20. Uncertainty. And fear of lockdown and the economy breaking down again. When
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jul 2021

Covid first hit in 2020 the stock market took a blood bath. It came back up but it's starting to fall again.

The stock market does not like uncertainty. I guess people are fickle.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
25. The stock market was presumably reacting to
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:16 AM
Jul 2021

the surge in COVID-19DV and the Republicans are now freaking out about it?

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
41. Bingo. We have a winner.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jul 2021

Even if another half million die that's not enough to turn an election, IMHO. Business is freaking out about another closure or not getting back to school. Kids don't go to school, parents can't go to work. Business suffers. In addition to stock prices going down.

My guess is business people told Fox to knock it the F off on anti vaccine BS.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
29. Dunno.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jul 2021

Ha! Not a lawyer and don't play one on TV, Cha.

However it cannot be legal to spread this type of propaganda. Personal lawsuits from viewers? It could tie them up in court for years and a huge amount of money spent to counter said suits. People have been sued for far less, see Rudi.

Dunno, it is just a guess.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
33. Sorry.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jul 2021

Late and I am tired.

I do believe there is some there...there.

Fox, Tucker and Hannity (only names I know) could be facing some hard times.

Lovie777

(12,260 posts)
10. The GOP only care about itself . . . .
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 11:45 PM
Jul 2021

Corporations only care about profit . .. .

Both want complete power and control while hogging all the monies.

For now, elections are important. If the republican cult is sick and dying even gerrymandering won't help win elections as well as voter suppressions laws because in my opinion we out number them and by far more vaccinated.

Infection rates are high in the rural areas and areas that have less vaccinations, hospitalizations are up.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. You aren't the only one. Those assholes found out something.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:04 AM
Jul 2021

Maybe they looked at the county hotspots map and realized that if they allow deaths among their voters to keep growing, they won’t do well in 2022. Smart voters should punish their asses regardless.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. They are taking a huge hit with negative publicity. Always
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:14 AM
Jul 2021

Thought Biden should get on TV once a week and just praise the top vaccinated states. Create competition to save lives.

TheProle

(2,167 posts)
22. History will forever preserve the fact
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:15 AM
Jul 2021

That conservatives’ response to both the pandemic and vaccination efforts was abysmal. Therefore it will remain a cudgel with which to beat them about the head.

For now, what is important is that their getting on board will save lives.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
34. They HAD to already know it was mostly killing...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jul 2021

... their Republican voters, right?

If some trusted GOP consultant had to point that out to them, the GOP leadership clearly hasn't been paying attention even slightly!

Which might be true, since former Ohio Governor Kasich became very upset at a CNN reporter for even suggesting that Republicans were more vaccine hesitant! That happened only two or three mornings ago, I think.

Kasich raised his voice while stating that Ohioans in higher age groups had the highest vaccination rates overall, as if that disproved the CNN reporter's assertion immediately.

He then pointed his finger at vaccine-hesitant African Americans, young people and rural people who never want to be told what to do.

Never mind the polls that show Republicans are much more vaccine-hesitant than others! Kasich acted like he wasn't going to tolerate such "lies"!

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
45. Yet Jared's and Donald's plan was to finagle resources to enhance more deaths in democrat areas.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:09 AM
Jul 2021

Yet Jared's and Donald's plan was to finagle resources to enhance more deaths in democrat areas.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
46. Maybe so. It was so strange to me how Kasich...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:14 AM
Jul 2021

... was so irate about it a few mornings ago!

I figured it was common knowledge by now! What the hell do Republicans actually do most of the day? Look at their bank accounts?

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
35. A bunch of vaccinated people telling unvaccinated people to not get vaxxed doesn't look good.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:53 AM
Jul 2021

They want to claim they behaved responsibly. The hypocrisy is too much.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
42. delta is a perfect killing machine for unvaccinated republican voters
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:24 AM
Jul 2021

It is targeting trump supporters in purple states, maybe enough to turn those blue, or change the outcome of some of the house races, state and local elections.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
44. Fox Employees are Vaccinated and Lawsuits. I think it could be those two considering how sudden it
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:32 AM
Jul 2021

was .

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
49. the market tanked...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:01 AM
Jul 2021

Murdoch not happy...affected the bottomline..Mitch and his band of loathsome creatures are invested in the stock market...

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