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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:51 PM Jul 2021

Amazon's Lord of the Rings TV Show Will Have Nudity But No Sex Scene

https://movieweb.com/lord-of-the-rings-amazon-series-nudity-sex-scene/

According to new reports about Amazon's epic Lord of the Rings series, the new tale of Middle Earth will not feature the powerful villain Sauron in its first season, but it will feature nudity, which has been causing a few ripples in the Tolkien community since it was hinted at a couple of months ago. The latest news on the project, which is well into production saw TheOneRing.net commenting that while the series is likely to see the stories great Lord of the Rings himself at some point, it will not be happening straight away in the billion dollar series. The report's source claimed, "Sauron/Annatar will not be revealed in Season One [going with the oldest axiom of show business 'Always leave them wanting more.']"

Amazon's Lord of the Rings is set in Middle Earth's Second Age, when Sauron comes out of hiding and bears the nine Rings of Power to the free peoples in the guise of Annatar, the Lord of Gifts. While this will still come to pass sometime over the course of the series, it is believed that season one will focus on a time just before that return. The report goes on to say that Celebrimbor, the forger of the rings, will appear in the series, originally to be played by Tom Budge - who has played a ghost of the character in the video games Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War - but the role is now being recast.

The same report has also provided an update on the controversial "nudity and sex" claims made about the series in rumors last month. While it appears that there will be some scenes of nudity in the show, there will be no sex scenes. The report went on, "Nudity is sparse and not sexualized- contrary to earlier concerns: but rather this artistic choice represents very dark thematic material suggestive of concentration camp-type visuals of victims, a harrowing portrayal of the corruption of the Elves by dark powers to ultimately become Orcs [if this plays out fully it will may well be one of the most ambitious things undertaken by this production and perhaps by anyone attempting to adapt Tolkien]." At least that should appease the many who started campaigns to boycott the show over possible sexualization of its characters.

One thing that is clear is the scope of the Amazon project is huge, and as it has already been teased as being like nothing seen before on TV, there is every possibility that it will go on to outshine Peter Jackson's almost perfect Lord of The Rings trilogy, which celebrates its 20th anniversary later this year. Star of the series, Benjamin Walker, spoke to ComicBook.com recently about the show and how much it is going to blow people away.

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I'm something of an absolutist on the subject of Tolkien adaptations being faithful to the source material. Within the limitations of the medium, mind you...Tom Bombadil is absent from them for a very good reason (stops the plot dead in its tracks). This having been said, I'm quite relieved to see that we won't be seeing any sex scenes in the upcoming Amazon series. As for the nudity being spoken of, as long as it's not explicit, it's entirely in keeping with the story. Morgoth (Sauron's boss) created orcs by torturing and corrupting elves. One can easily imagine that under such circumstances they could be naked.
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Amazon's Lord of the Rings TV Show Will Have Nudity But No Sex Scene (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 OP
hoping for elves, expecting orc's...... n/t getagrip_already Jul 2021 #1
Damn! Doodley Jul 2021 #2
Joy. Hollywood reducing LOTR to GOT Devil Child Jul 2021 #3
Quite the opposite, I'd say. No sex scenes and the only nudity will be nonsexualized Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #5
but will there be hacking bodies and rivers of blood? TxGuitar Jul 2021 #22
I presume the violence will be at the PG-13 level, similar to the films. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #24
It seems more geared towards degradation Sympthsical Jul 2021 #8
"Peter Jackson's almost perfect Lord of the Rings trilogy.." LisaM Jul 2021 #4
Have to disagee. While hardly perfect, I don't know that it could have been substantially improved. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #6
I found it unwatchable. LisaM Jul 2021 #7
The movies wouldn't have succeeded Sympthsical Jul 2021 #9
Exactly so. Movies completly faithful to the books in pacing and plot would have bombed. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #10
It doesn't have to be completely faithful. LisaM Jul 2021 #13
Regarding "The Wanderer" ananda Jul 2021 #25
As Kevin Smith said BradAllison Jul 2021 #12
I thought the scenery, sets and most of the costumes TxGuitar Jul 2021 #21
What really bugs me TxGuitar Jul 2021 #23
"the corruption of the Elves by dark powers to ultimately become Orcs" - well, that's First Age muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #11
Does the "corruption of the Elves into Orcs" mean their weiners get bigger or smaller? Bucky Jul 2021 #15
I have the vague feeling that the film showed them with the full Ken muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #16
That question has been asked....and answered: Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #17
oh Bucky Jul 2021 #18
That was glorious. Nt cinematicdiversions Jul 2021 #19
Bored of the Rings was so fantastic TxGuitar Jul 2021 #20
When I say "Tolkein" you say "Hobbit boobs" -- Tolkein!! Hobbit boobs!! Tolkein!! Hobbit boobs!! Bucky Jul 2021 #14
 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
5. Quite the opposite, I'd say. No sex scenes and the only nudity will be nonsexualized
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

(and, one presumes, discreet). I also doubt very much that we'll hear anyone say anything as bad as "shit", let alone a flurry of f-bombs.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
24. I presume the violence will be at the PG-13 level, similar to the films.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jul 2021

The Second Age of Middle Earth did have some rather violent events, after all. The Wars of the Second Age are considerably larger in scope than the War of the Ring.

Sympthsical

(9,189 posts)
8. It seems more geared towards degradation
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jul 2021

Like Holocaust victims. At least, according to what has been released so far.

If there's a finger in the bum, I riot.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
6. Have to disagee. While hardly perfect, I don't know that it could have been substantially improved.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jul 2021

Only so much of the source material can be included (the extended version is 12 hours long as it is). Including more than a bit of the many songs and poems would have made it far less popular. The casting was spot on.

Oh, I would change some things if I had my druthers. Less humor at Gimli's expense, for instance. But frankly, I'm shocked looking back at it just how good it is.

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
7. I found it unwatchable.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:08 PM
Jul 2021

He took out all the homely things and turned it into an action movie. Clearly he and I have very different visions of what the books are about.

I do read the entire series twice a year, and of course I skim the verse and songs after a bit (though recently, I heard a long radio piece on CBC about the epic poem "The Wanderer", to which the verses about Boromir owe much).

Sympthsical

(9,189 posts)
9. The movies wouldn't have succeeded
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jul 2021

I also do a reread now and then. And every time I forget how very much of it is songs and travelogue. I don't think I could've sat through a cinematic representation of that.

When you're laying down $300+ million to make all the movies at once, you're going to go a little Hollywood formulaic on the material. The extended versions ameliorate this to some degree. But I'm fine with it. The books are the books, the movies are the movies.

I think the movies were about as much as you could do with the material and still make money.

The only way to gear towards what you'd like is long form television like Game of Thrones (but, you know, not completely hosed by the end).

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
13. It doesn't have to be completely faithful.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jul 2021

But there were scenes in "The Two Towers" that were almost completely CGI. I hated.that. Yes, the books have a lot of the Fellowship enduring tedious marches, I can see not reproducing all of that. But an action movie is the last thing I envisioned.

In all fairness, I am not a fan of action movies, CGI, and war movies generally, and Peter Jackson managed to coax all of that out of whatever he saw in his head when he (presumably) read the books.

TxGuitar

(4,218 posts)
21. I thought the scenery, sets and most of the costumes
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:55 PM
Jul 2021

were spot on. The plot, not so much, but I understand it's a lot to cram into a movie. That Two Towers scene with Aragorn falling down a hill or whatever happened was awful and the scenes with Arwen were so cringeworthy, as bad as the Galadriel fountain scene. But Arwen was the worst.
plus the elves were all pricks and everybody whispered.

TxGuitar

(4,218 posts)
23. What really bugs me
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jul 2021

is people that talk about being LOTR fans and are all into it but haven't read the books. I know that's, what, elitist or something? But if you haven't read the books then I think you're really missing out.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,412 posts)
11. "the corruption of the Elves by dark powers to ultimately become Orcs" - well, that's First Age
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jul 2021

and ancient First Age at that - Melkor created/corrupted them before he was first imprisoned by the Valar. So this may be full of flashbacks.

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
15. Does the "corruption of the Elves into Orcs" mean their weiners get bigger or smaller?
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jul 2021

And are we sure that the One Ring To Rule Them All is a finger ring?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,412 posts)
16. I have the vague feeling that the film showed them with the full Ken
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:18 PM
Jul 2021

Completely smooth. Though you'd think they'd need a cloaca for waste management. Sauron didn't design the ring for orcish use, so their lower number of possible appendages would be an advantage. Now you mention it:

"Do you like what you doth see ... ?"said the voluptuous elf-maiden as she provocatively parted the folds of her robe to reveal the rounded, shadowy glories within ... Toes, I love hairy toes", she moaned ... "The Ring", she said. "I must have your Ring."

From the opening taster of "Bored of the Rings", which it sadly forgets to actually use in the real text. Who knows what the One Ring could have done on a hobbit (or boggie) toe? Or wiener?

TxGuitar

(4,218 posts)
20. Bored of the Rings was so fantastic
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jul 2021

even though I was only 3 when it came out. Some of the references went over my head but the internet cured a lot of that. Plus there's this:

Are there no facilites here?
Is there no washroom?
No one seems to know.


“If only I'd listened to my Uncle Poo-poo and gone into dentistry," whined Pepsi.
"If I'd stayed home, I'd be big in encyclopedias by now," sniffled Moxie.
"And if I had ten pounds o' ciment and a couple o' sacks, you'd a' both gone for a stroll in that pond an hour ago," said Spam.”

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
14. When I say "Tolkein" you say "Hobbit boobs" -- Tolkein!! Hobbit boobs!! Tolkein!! Hobbit boobs!!
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:41 PM
Jul 2021

Orcs with dorks, but it's anatomy, not sexuality. Obviously.

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