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https://movieweb.com/lord-of-the-rings-amazon-series-nudity-sex-scene/According to new reports about Amazon's epic Lord of the Rings series, the new tale of Middle Earth will not feature the powerful villain Sauron in its first season, but it will feature nudity, which has been causing a few ripples in the Tolkien community since it was hinted at a couple of months ago. The latest news on the project, which is well into production saw TheOneRing.net commenting that while the series is likely to see the stories great Lord of the Rings himself at some point, it will not be happening straight away in the billion dollar series. The report's source claimed, "Sauron/Annatar will not be revealed in Season One [going with the oldest axiom of show business 'Always leave them wanting more.']"
Amazon's Lord of the Rings is set in Middle Earth's Second Age, when Sauron comes out of hiding and bears the nine Rings of Power to the free peoples in the guise of Annatar, the Lord of Gifts. While this will still come to pass sometime over the course of the series, it is believed that season one will focus on a time just before that return. The report goes on to say that Celebrimbor, the forger of the rings, will appear in the series, originally to be played by Tom Budge - who has played a ghost of the character in the video games Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War - but the role is now being recast.
The same report has also provided an update on the controversial "nudity and sex" claims made about the series in rumors last month. While it appears that there will be some scenes of nudity in the show, there will be no sex scenes. The report went on, "Nudity is sparse and not sexualized- contrary to earlier concerns: but rather this artistic choice represents very dark thematic material suggestive of concentration camp-type visuals of victims, a harrowing portrayal of the corruption of the Elves by dark powers to ultimately become Orcs [if this plays out fully it will may well be one of the most ambitious things undertaken by this production and perhaps by anyone attempting to adapt Tolkien]." At least that should appease the many who started campaigns to boycott the show over possible sexualization of its characters.
One thing that is clear is the scope of the Amazon project is huge, and as it has already been teased as being like nothing seen before on TV, there is every possibility that it will go on to outshine Peter Jackson's almost perfect Lord of The Rings trilogy, which celebrates its 20th anniversary later this year. Star of the series, Benjamin Walker, spoke to ComicBook.com recently about the show and how much it is going to blow people away.
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I'm something of an absolutist on the subject of Tolkien adaptations being faithful to the source material. Within the limitations of the medium, mind you...Tom Bombadil is absent from them for a very good reason (stops the plot dead in its tracks). This having been said, I'm quite relieved to see that we won't be seeing any sex scenes in the upcoming Amazon series. As for the nudity being spoken of, as long as it's not explicit, it's entirely in keeping with the story. Morgoth (Sauron's boss) created orcs by torturing and corrupting elves. One can easily imagine that under such circumstances they could be naked.
getagrip_already
(14,969 posts)Doodley
(9,176 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)(and, one presumes, discreet). I also doubt very much that we'll hear anyone say anything as bad as "shit", let alone a flurry of f-bombs.
TxGuitar
(4,218 posts)Violence and gore? If so, it's a no for me.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)The Second Age of Middle Earth did have some rather violent events, after all. The Wars of the Second Age are considerably larger in scope than the War of the Ring.
Sympthsical
(9,189 posts)Like Holocaust victims. At least, according to what has been released so far.
If there's a finger in the bum, I riot.
LisaM
(27,850 posts)It was so bad!!!
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Only so much of the source material can be included (the extended version is 12 hours long as it is). Including more than a bit of the many songs and poems would have made it far less popular. The casting was spot on.
Oh, I would change some things if I had my druthers. Less humor at Gimli's expense, for instance. But frankly, I'm shocked looking back at it just how good it is.
LisaM
(27,850 posts)He took out all the homely things and turned it into an action movie. Clearly he and I have very different visions of what the books are about.
I do read the entire series twice a year, and of course I skim the verse and songs after a bit (though recently, I heard a long radio piece on CBC about the epic poem "The Wanderer", to which the verses about Boromir owe much).
Sympthsical
(9,189 posts)I also do a reread now and then. And every time I forget how very much of it is songs and travelogue. I don't think I could've sat through a cinematic representation of that.
When you're laying down $300+ million to make all the movies at once, you're going to go a little Hollywood formulaic on the material. The extended versions ameliorate this to some degree. But I'm fine with it. The books are the books, the movies are the movies.
I think the movies were about as much as you could do with the material and still make money.
The only way to gear towards what you'd like is long form television like Game of Thrones (but, you know, not completely hosed by the end).
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)LisaM
(27,850 posts)But there were scenes in "The Two Towers" that were almost completely CGI. I hated.that. Yes, the books have a lot of the Fellowship enduring tedious marches, I can see not reproducing all of that. But an action movie is the last thing I envisioned.
In all fairness, I am not a fan of action movies, CGI, and war movies generally, and Peter Jackson managed to coax all of that out of whatever he saw in his head when he (presumably) read the books.
ananda
(28,904 posts)It is not an epic poem. Check it out here:
http://www.anglo-saxons.net/hwaet/?do=get&type=text&id=Wdr
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)"Four hours of walking"
TxGuitar
(4,218 posts)were spot on. The plot, not so much, but I understand it's a lot to cram into a movie. That Two Towers scene with Aragorn falling down a hill or whatever happened was awful and the scenes with Arwen were so cringeworthy, as bad as the Galadriel fountain scene. But Arwen was the worst.
plus the elves were all pricks and everybody whispered.
TxGuitar
(4,218 posts)is people that talk about being LOTR fans and are all into it but haven't read the books. I know that's, what, elitist or something? But if you haven't read the books then I think you're really missing out.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,412 posts)and ancient First Age at that - Melkor created/corrupted them before he was first imprisoned by the Valar. So this may be full of flashbacks.
Bucky
(54,094 posts)And are we sure that the One Ring To Rule Them All is a finger ring?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,412 posts)Completely smooth. Though you'd think they'd need a cloaca for waste management. Sauron didn't design the ring for orcish use, so their lower number of possible appendages would be an advantage. Now you mention it:
From the opening taster of "Bored of the Rings", which it sadly forgets to actually use in the real text. Who knows what the One Ring could have done on a hobbit (or boggie) toe? Or wiener?
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Bucky
(54,094 posts)my
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)TxGuitar
(4,218 posts)even though I was only 3 when it came out. Some of the references went over my head but the internet cured a lot of that. Plus there's this:
Are there no facilites here?
Is there no washroom?
No one seems to know.
If only I'd listened to my Uncle Poo-poo and gone into dentistry," whined Pepsi.
"If I'd stayed home, I'd be big in encyclopedias by now," sniffled Moxie.
"And if I had ten pounds o' ciment and a couple o' sacks, you'd a' both gone for a stroll in that pond an hour ago," said Spam.
Bucky
(54,094 posts)Orcs with dorks, but it's anatomy, not sexuality. Obviously.