Bernie Sanders to Keynote Nina Turner Rally at Agora July 31

[Uncle Joe]

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders will keynote a get-out-the-vote rally for OH-11 congressional candidate Nina Turner on July 31st at the Agora Theater, Turner's campaign has announced. The rally will be followed by a march to the polls.

The 11:30 a.m. event will also feature local elected leaders and musical artists. But Sanders, the beloved but polarizing progressive legislator who nearly secured the Democratic nomination for President in 2016 and 2020, is the main draw. He is the highest profile national figure to support Turner's campaign, and joins Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who's traveling to Cleveland Saturday, as prominent politicians on the progressive left to throw their weight behind Turner in the weeks before the special election on Aug. 3.

Nina Turner was one of the first and most vocal surrogates for Sanders during his presidential runs and later led the organization, Our Revolution, that grew out of the Sanders campaign.

Sanders endorsed Turner early in the current race. The two are ideologically aligned. Both have championed policies like raising the minimum wage, canceling student debt and Medicare For All.

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https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2021/07/21/bernie-sanders-to-keynote-nina-turner-rally-at-agora-july-31

[brooklynite]

1. whoopie....

As I recall, Sanders never had a compelling message for African American voters.

[Demsrule86]

28. This will not help Nina Turner ...

[joetheman]

64. Yet another headache for Joe Biden. nt

[lagomorph777]

2. OK. That is shameful.

I usually agree with Bernie. Not this time!!

[Ocelot II]

3. I thought by this time Bernie would have known better.

Guess not.

[Trueblue1968]

30. he4 will NEVER know better. He used Nina's lies to try and further his political election.

He also lied about Hillary.

[Walleye]

4. Oh Bernie, Bernie, Bernie...

[JohnSJ]

5. Why should people vote for someone who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016, and compared

Joe Biden to a "bowl of s**t" in 2020

[jalan48]

12. Hillary Clinton raised money for Ralph Northam when he ran for Virginia Governor in 2018 despite

the fact that Northam admitted he voted for Bush/Cheney not once but twice.

[JohnSJ]

20. He was the Democratic nominee for Governor against the Republican candidate. Turner, along

with Sirota, and Brianna Joy Gray campaigned against the Democratic nominee for President, and encouraged people to do likewise with their bullshit “lesser of two evils” argument.

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing states, and that made all the difference

It is Not even comparable. Turner, along with others in that group helped contribute to the last four years, and why anyone should reward someone for that, by voting for them is beyond me

[jalan48]

29. Northam supported Bush/Cheney over both Gore and Kerry. Bush/Cheney are Republicans.

[JohnSJ]

31. You still don't get it. She supported Northam only AFTER he became the Democratic nominee

for Governor against Gillespie

Northam wasn't even in politics when he supported bush/cheney

Turner on the other hand was well into politics, and knew exactly what she was doing when she campaigned against the Democratic nominee, and encouraged people NOT to vote for Hillary.

and her views didn't change against the Democratic nominee in 2020

Unlike Senator Warren, when she became a Democratic she didn't play games, or USE the Democratic party to further her ambitions.

Your false equivalency isn't applicable

[jalan48]

34. It's not just about Clinton-it's about Northam. Outrage is a funny thing.

[JohnSJ]

36. I am not a Northam fan, but once Northam became a Democrat, he supported

Democrats, something Nina Turner didn't do

[Demsrule86]

57. You miss the point. One was a General and one is a primary. We have a choice. In a General, you must

vote for the Party nominee.

[jalan48]

61. The point is we ran a Bush//Cheney supporter as a Democrat and folks were fine with it.

[Demsrule86]

67. Virginia was not yet blue...and the choice was Perriello who had voted against abortion rights.

Northam was a fine choice and was a Democrat. Ms. Turner is not only a member of a third party, she has not supported the Democratic nominee for president in the last two cycles and has been very critical of our Party.

[jalan48]

68. Bush and Cheney are war criminals. I can't support any politician who voted for them.

[Demsrule86]

56. It doesn't matter. I would vote for the Democrat in a general always...despite what they did or.

didn't do. However, Nina is not a Democrat ( I would still vote for her but only in a general). I have a choice...a loyal talented Democrat who supports our- party-Shontel Brown and Nina Turner who voted for Jill Stein and actively campaigned against Hillary Clinton in the General during the 2016 Presidential election. In the 2020 Presidential General, she said Pres. Biden was 'half a bowl of shit'. I sincerely hope she crashes and burns in the primary.

[NurseJackie]

15. Her endorsers probably AGREE with all the awful things she says.

I have zero respect for anyone who endorses her. She's not even a Democrat. Her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be on the ballot in Ohio, so she is GRUDGINGLY running "as a" Democrat.

She has no loyalty to the Democratic party.

[MontanaMama]

6. I just don't get anyone jumping on Turner's bandwagon.

She's not a Democrat and she voted for Jill Stein among a long list of other reasons not to support her.

[The Magistrate]

7. So He's Enough Of An Old Pol To Back His People, Sir

I don't much like it, but he seems to be pulling well enough in harness in the Senate nowadays.


"Ya dance with them what brung ya."

[Tom Rinaldo]

62. A very fair appaisal. n/t

[murielm99]

8. In 2020, Bernie lost by more than he did in 2016.

He did not "almost win" anything.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. This will be interesting

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

32. The word "almost" must have a new meaning now, too.

Ugh, remembering this: "Some people say that if maybe that system was not rigged against me, I would have won the nomination and defeated Donald Trump."

[msongs]

9. so what is worse than eating a bowl of sh**? stay tuned for the answer nt

[brooklynite]

10. If Nina Turner wins the Primary...

...I suspect the Republicans will make her the radical liberal poster child for all of the Ohio races.

[JohnSJ]

14. and outside of Ohio also

[Chili]

11. I was afraid of that

Wish Hillary would come down... I imagine that would be too much - but hey... she beat Bernie in the Ohio primary 53% - 46%. Hillary's looking pretty damn good these days. Hell, she looked good then. Not even going there.

Don't know if Bernie and AOC can drown out Clyburn and the black clergy. Making me nervous.

[sheshe2]

33. Don't be nervous, Chili.

Their endorsements have not always worked out in the past.

Stay strong.

Go OHIO!

[JohnSJ]

38. That's for sure. The problem Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez has for that matter, is they

have a problem attracting support outside their base.

Whether that will prove to be a factor or not we will know soon enough

[sheshe2]

40. Yes, we will know soon enough.

Of course there will be the fawning fans, yet time has shown that they don't bother to vote.

[JohnSJ]

42. lol

[sheshe2]

47. Luv ya.

[Chili]

48. Thank you!

Ugh... I just hate the ugliness. Think it's bad now... if she wins...

GO OHIO!

[sheshe2]

51. Stay strong, Shontel can do this.

Sad to say it is getting pretty ugly out there.

[NurseJackie]

13. Nina is desperate! I guess the Ninamobile with the spinning cutout of her face didn't work!

Link to tweet

[marble falls]

35. That was one of the stranger campaign vehicles I've seen outside some of the Tea Bagger cars.

[oasis]

52. Makes mail and pizza deliveries between campaign stops.

[NurseJackie]

53. Many years ago, a local PEST EXTERMINATOR had a custom van with a dead-bug on top...

... it was quite unique and humorous seeing a giant cockroach on top of their main (only?) work-van as it drove around town (only the lettering was better and the paint-job looked better.)

[oasis]

54. In this case, a giant termite. They destroy from the inside.

[ColinC]

17. I remain concerned that this is a distraction from more important issues

Let's focus on saving democracy and protecting voting rights, instead of a safe democratic seat that won't make any difference in our majority.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

25. I would like a real Democrat who will work with the party to be the nominee

The People’s Party seems to think that Turner will represent their third party

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

26. Nina would cause us problems as she is not a Democrat...and doesn't particularly like Democrats

as shown by her lack of support for both Sec. Clinton and President Biden during the past two elections.

[sheshe2]

41. Proven fact.

[Chili]

49. it will matter big time

She will be against every bill Nancy Pelosi wants passed. And the GOP will make a hero out of her, which she will embrace smugly.

[BradAllison]

66. Here here

20 new posts a day everytime a candidate farts in a race that will end up going to a Democrat either way is pointless.

Meanwhile Ohio has a Senate race that can make the real assholes pulling power plays in "our party" completely irrelevant.

[48656c6c6f20]

18. Oops. The Independent Senator from Vermont

Does it again.

[Bev54]

19. If by any chance she gets the dem nomination

I hope the real dem will run as an independent.

[Hortensis]

21. Hope they'll do a moment of silence for the death of all the

great progressive advances our party had planned so eagerly for America's 45th presidency. With all three branches dominated by solid liberal majorities and our first woman president.

And of course for all those people who have died, and are still dying, as a result.

[betsuni]

39. No way.

According to Bernie, Trump won because Democrats aren't progressive and ignore the working class, as he has said many many times.

Blames Democrats for increased support for Trump in the last election: "This is a reflection of the Democratic Party. I think if you talk to many of these working class people who voted for Trump, they'll say, 'Look, of course we know he's a liar. We know he's full of shit. But at least he does this, he does that.' Something the Democrats don't do. The Democratic Party is going to have to do an enormous amount of work, really transform itself, and talk about ways to bring working class people on board, and what that means is you've got to represent honestly their interests."

But he has a plan!: "Democrats need to speak to the struggles of the white working class, he says, something 'sometimes part of the Democratic elite do not fully appreciate. ... We've got to take it to them, to start going into Trumpworld and start talking to these people. ... You got all these folks out there who are saying, 'Does anybody pay attention to me?'"

[sheshe2]

45. Hmmm

I think if you talk to many of these working class people who voted for Trump, they'll say, 'Look, of course we know he's a liar. We know he's full of shit. But at least he does this, he does that.' Something the Democrats don't do.

The old "working class people" go to speech. Key word and it means white. WHITE.

The Democratic Party is going to have to do an enormous amount of work, really transform itself, and talk about ways to bring working class people on board, and what that means is you've got to represent honestly their interests."

Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday lambasted the Democratic Party for failing to pay attention to white working class voters during the election.


“There needs to be a profound change in the way the Democratic Party does business. It is not good enough to have a liberal elite,” Sanders said in an interview on “CBS This Morning.”

“I come from the white working class and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party can’t talk to the people where I came from,” he added.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-deeply-humiliated-democrats-cant-talk-to-working-class//blockquote]

Again, white people and 'where I came from.' It is not about you and your people Sen Sanders. We are a diverse nation, one of many colors. Census is tipping and white will no longer be the majority. It should be about all the people.

PS: Guess who votes with the highest majority, that would be black women.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

22. This will be a busy weekend

Link to tweet

[iemanja]

23. I don't think this will help

Turner, that is.

[Demsrule86]

24. Sanders is not that popular with Ohioans...thanks for the warning...won't be there or listen.

Nina is not a Democrat and attacks Democrats thus no vote for her in any primary.

[we can do it]

37. Isn't that special.

[Me.]

43. Sad

no one cares about his endorsement anymore

[MrsCoffee]

46. The two are ideologically aligned alright.

Insert clever bowl of shit joke here.

[Shellback Squid]

50. herding kittens

nina is just garnishing in a bowl

[MineralMan]

55. I guess voters in that district will decide.

I don't live anywhere in Ohio, so I have no say. I believe that you also live somewhere other than in that district, as well, so you also have no say in the matter.

Will she win that primary? I don't know. I doubt anyone does, actually. We'll find out. I'll rely on the decision of voters in that district, like I do with all such primary elections.

I would not vote for Nina Turner. She has proven herself not to be a Democrat, frankly. She's something else entirely. I support Democrats who are and stay Democrats. Nina Turner is not such a person. Nor is Bernie Sanders.

I'm sure people will come to that rally. I'm sure some of them will vote for Turner. But, that's not the election. That's done by other people, primarily. We'll see what they say, won't we?

[Uncle Joe]

58. I agree with your first three sentences.

My preeminent concern are the debates or issues that affect our nation and world, not the party.

To my way of thinking that's the biggest problem with the Republicans; with way too many of them it has become party over nation.

I've always tried my best not to be a proponent of a "no true Scotsman" mentality.

I would vote for Nina because I believe she is on the right side of and the most committed candidate to the critical issues affecting our nation today.

I agree with you, the rally is not the election and we will see in time.

[MineralMan]

59. No doubt, if you could, you'd vote for her in that primary.

But you can't. I don't know enough about that district to know whether Nina can win in the general election, which is by far the most important thing to consider. Maybe she can, but perhaps not, if she puts off enough Democratic voters there.

See, I don't know that district, and I doubt you do, either. We need seats in Congress. That is an imperative that overrides policy wonkery.

You might not agree with me, but that's of no matter to me. I can't imagine you know more than I do about elections. You seem to be position oriented over every thing else. In House races, particularly, that is a serious mistake in many districts.

[Uncle Joe]

60. There have not been many polls on that race

but I believe Nina was leading by a substantial margin up until the race became nationalized.

I believe most people in her district knew/know which issues Nina has championed.

I also believe there are strong corporate interests arrayed against her because of Nina's stance on the issues.

In conclusion I believe decades of too much cowtowing on behalf of private corporate/oligarch interests over the public good is the primary cause for the rise of Trump.

In regards to the election, I don't who will win just as you don't.

[Quixote1818]

63. Looks like betting odds have Turner in a pretty strong position currently

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7179/Who-will-win-the-Democratic-nomination-in-the-OH-11-special-election

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

65. Gave ten bucks to her primary opponent the other day.

[oasis]

69. Good, tough campaign ahead. Pelosi needs people she can count on.