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orangecrush

(19,537 posts)
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:46 AM Jul 2021

Michael Cohen says he thinks Jared Kushner has already flipped on Trump


Michael Cohen said he thought Jared Kushner had flipped on his father-in-law, Donald Trump.
New York prosecutors are pursuing a criminal investigation into Trump's business empire.
Cohen said it was noteworthy that Kushner's name had been absent in proceedings so far.






Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's former personal attorney, said he thought Jared Kushner had already flipped on his father-in-law as the criminal investigation into Trump's business empire intensifies.

Cohen did not offer any evidence but said he thought that was the case because of how little Kushner had been mentioned.

Cohen tweeted on Wednesday that Kushner's name had been absent from "all the controversy, indictments and arrests" related to the investigation. He speculated that this was because Kushner was already cooperating with prosecutors.

"Interesting how @jaredkushner (#SecretaryOfEverything) name appears to be absent from all the controversy, indictments and arrests," Cohen tweeted. "Is he next to fall or a cooperating witness? Knowing what a snake he is, I bet the latter!"


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-thinks-kushner-has-already-flipped-on-donald-trump-2021-7%3famp








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Michael Cohen says he thinks Jared Kushner has already flipped on Trump (Original Post) orangecrush Jul 2021 OP
Jared? Kushner? Not sure I know who that is... Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #1
... orangecrush Jul 2021 #2
Now I've got that theme song in my head. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #5
.... orangecrush Jul 2021 #8
Not buying it redstateblues Jul 2021 #3
me either nt hookaleft Jul 2021 #27
Poor Cohen snowybirdie Jul 2021 #4
PsyOps speak easy Jul 2021 #6
Probably Nasruddin Jul 2021 #19
Pretty sure that Michael Cohen cares deeply about... Effete Snob Jul 2021 #9
I don't agree with that, Ari Melber has him on his show a lot. Escurumbele Jul 2021 #10
I agree with you. triron Jul 2021 #25
What has he been wrong about? Seems to me everything he said Trump would do Trump did. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #13
It would make my heart glad if the prosecutors... Girard442 Jul 2021 #7
No honor among these criminals. All about me. MarcA Jul 2021 #11
If true, does that mean Danascot Jul 2021 #12
I could believe it. tanyev Jul 2021 #14
This makes no sense to me leftieNanner Jul 2021 #15
If Ivanka is really her father's daughter then she'll flip on him before he can turn on her. ZonkerHarris Jul 2021 #16
Cohen has zero insight into the Trump organization now. This is just a stupid rumor his is Politicub Jul 2021 #17
Tend To Agree DallasNE Jul 2021 #18
Or when he was seizing PPE ordered by hospitals... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #21
I tend to believe it. Sogo Jul 2021 #20
Michael Cohen is a criminal and a liar BradAllison Jul 2021 #22
I think Kushner would flip to protect Ivanka mchill Jul 2021 #23
Many people are saying that Republican traitors are turning on each other Champp Jul 2021 #24
Jared *would* flip if they really had him Azathoth Jul 2021 #26
We've been hearing this stuff for years Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #28
doesn't matter if its true - it will eat away at tfg.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #29
Wouldn't be surprised. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #30

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
4. Poor Cohen
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:03 PM
Jul 2021

He keeps making these pronouncements about what's happening in rtumpland, and gets ignored. No one ever checks back if he was right or not, mostly not. He hasn't been in the inner circle in four years or so, and the public doesn't pay any attention to his insights. Fleeting fame is a he'll of a drug!

Nasruddin

(752 posts)
19. Probably
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:13 PM
Jul 2021

Cohen probably has no particular basis for saying this ... on the other hand Trump is extremely suspicious and suggestible as Lincoln Project showed (& exploited). What good it does I couldn't say.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. Pretty sure that Michael Cohen cares deeply about...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jul 2021

...Michael Cohen.

That's what his entire life has been about.

Hard for people to grasp the obvious facts that Michael Cohen was a shitty unethical lawyer. So was Michael Avenatti. Just because two people are enemies doesn't make either one of them a hero.

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
10. I don't agree with that, Ari Melber has him on his show a lot.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jul 2021

I don't dislike Cohen, I see him as the little kid in school who always wanted to run around with the big boys and did stupid things to be accepted.

I do believe he has learned a big lesson, and I think he is one of those people who deserves a 2nd chance.

Did he do stupid illegal stuff? Yes, but has he contributed to the downfall of the buffoon? Yes, and time will tell by how much, so I am willing to give the guy his second chance.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
7. It would make my heart glad if the prosecutors...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:21 PM
Jul 2021

...intentionally didn't mention Kushner's name in filings to plant the seed of suspicion in TFG"s mind.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
11. No honor among these criminals. All about me.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jul 2021

They know this about themselves and think anyone who doesn't act the same way is just a chump to be used.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
12. If true, does that mean
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:35 PM
Jul 2021

Jared has flipped on the princess or is the princess also flipping on the slobfather.?

In either case:

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
14. I could believe it.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jul 2021

I recall reading that Jared and Ivanka had an uncanny knack for being out of town several times when sh** was hitting the fan.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
15. This makes no sense to me
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:39 PM
Jul 2021

Why would Jared's name come up in an investigation of the Trump Organization? He's sleeping with the boss's daughter, but he's not connected to his FIL's business at all.

On Edit: Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. Cohen has zero insight into the Trump organization now. This is just a stupid rumor his is
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jul 2021

spreading, for reasons known only to him.

It isn't surprising for Kushner to be out of the spotlight. He only emerged from his coffin when he was brokering arms deals in the mid-east.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
18. Tend To Agree
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jul 2021

How could Kushner flip on Donald Trump without also flipping on his own wife? That would be some juggling act, for sure.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
21. Or when he was seizing PPE ordered by hospitals...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

... and other organizations last year during transit, for the supposed Federal stockpile that he treated like his personal property.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
20. I tend to believe it.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jul 2021

Kushner is as scared of going to prison as Trump. He saw his father there and I’m sure doesn’t want to follow in his footsteps.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
22. Michael Cohen is a criminal and a liar
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jul 2021

He will say anything that keeps him relevant enough to get ten more minutes on tv. Ari Melber (who I like) is fascinated with him, but then again, he was also fascinated with Avanatti, another crook and media whore.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
24. Many people are saying that Republican traitors are turning on each other
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jul 2021

Awful damn ugly, many people are probably saying.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
26. Jared *would* flip if they really had him
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:38 PM
Jul 2021

However, I think people are overestimating just how much criminality can be proven against Trump himself.

One of the advantages of being a mental invalid with the attention span of a flea is that it's really hard to put the necessary mental energy into actually breaking the law. Trump's entire MO is to surround himself with crooks who he can encourage to break the law on their own. Even if there are crimes he actually did commit himself, there's probably serious doubt that he knew -- or even had the capacity to know, given how impulsive and mentally defective he is -- that what he was doing was actually illegal.

Honestly, if his ability to plan and commit crimes was actually equal to his personal enthusiasm for criminal behavior, he'd have gone to jail long ago.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
29. doesn't matter if its true - it will eat away at tfg....
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jul 2021

He doesn't trust anybody, and he was really mean to poor jared in the last months....

So he will probably believe enough that it will eat away at him.


heheheheheh.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
30. Wouldn't be surprised.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jul 2021

Jared won’t take the fall for dear old dad-in-law. “Every man for himself” should be on the Trump family crest.

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