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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:56 PM Jul 2021

Trump insurgents came within seconds of capturing 'nuclear football' on Jan. 6

During Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial, video footage of events on Jan. 6 revealed just how close Mike Pence came to falling into the hands of the people who were chanting for his execution. Fourteen minutes after the mob of Trump supporters first breached the Capitol, Secret Service agents led Pence from the Senate chamber and down a flight of stairs. He entered that stairwell just seconds ahead of the arrival of insurgents, some of whom were carrying rope or zip ties. Had those insurgents not been delayed through the actions of Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman, they could easily have been there to capture Pence and take him to the gallows waiting on the lawn outside.

But in addition to Pence, they might have captured something else that would have been especially problematic. For most of us, our electronic devices—phones, tablets, and laptops—are regularly trusted with our most confidential information. That’s one of the things that helps to make these devices our constant companions and among the most vital objects that we own. However, there is still information that’s considered too valuable, too sensitive, to be trusted to any electronic device, and one prime example was in the hands of a military aide who was with Mike Pence as he fled from the Senate.

That aide was carrying a small satchel, and inside that satchel was a book listing the locations of classified military sites, a description of how to activate and use the Emergency Broadcast System, a “black book” of pre-planned military actions, and a small card that contains the codes necessary to authorize a nuclear strike. That aide was with Pence at the top of the stairs in the video that was shown during the Senate trial.

The Jan. 6 insurgents didn’t just almost get Mike Pence. They almost got the backup copy of the president’s Emergency Satchel. Better know as the “nuclear football.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/7/21/2041066/-Trump-insurgents-came-within-seconds-of-capturing-nuclear-football-on-Jan-6

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Trump insurgents came within seconds of capturing 'nuclear football' on Jan. 6 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
They would have blown up the world if they could. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #1
That is a truly scary thought. Initech Jul 2021 #14
If they got that close to Pence... IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2021 #2
Nobody would have gotten near Pence alive. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #3
I agree. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #7
It's one thing to be suspicious he might be whisked off to an undisclosed location... JHB Jul 2021 #13
And, I'm quite sure that there is a contingency for just such a scenario, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #11
Republicans know the House investigation is going madaboutharry Jul 2021 #4
My expectation is that the aide has specific orders with respect to that satchel. Jim__ Jul 2021 #5
Err, there's gotta be more than just having possession of the codes Disaffected Jul 2021 #6
As to the briefcase I'm pretty sure that they have a "fail safe" in place . ... Lovie777 Jul 2021 #9
Yes, one would hope Disaffected Jul 2021 #10
This horse has been well beaten sarisataka Jul 2021 #8
They should've shot the invaders the second they breached the line. NightWatcher Jul 2021 #12
Good grief! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #15

IrishAfricanAmerican

(3,815 posts)
2. If they got that close to Pence...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jul 2021

the SS would have gunned them down where they stood.**




**assuming they didn't have SS agents working for them.





Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
3. Nobody would have gotten near Pence alive.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jul 2021

It is a fantasy to think that the secret service wouldn't have protected him with everything they had.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
7. I agree.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jul 2021

They wouldn’t have gotten to him, though it does seem Pence didn’t trust all of his security detail.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
13. It's one thing to be suspicious he might be whisked off to an undisclosed location...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jul 2021

...but any agents who might have been up to something like that would still have gunned down or plowed a car through any MAGA mobbers who got in their way.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,363 posts)
11. And, I'm quite sure that there is a contingency for just such a scenario,
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:54 PM
Jul 2021

like a self destruct button that the military officer could initiate.

And, as you said, there would be alot of dead bodies before any unauthorized person got to the football.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
4. Republicans know the House investigation is going
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

to reveal a plot involving elected officials and key figures to overthrow the government. The only thing that saved this country was its civilian military.

I have little doubt about this. They will be found out as the traitors that they are.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
5. My expectation is that the aide has specific orders with respect to that satchel.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

Those idiots may have been in for a big surprise had they approached him.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
6. Err, there's gotta be more than just having possession of the codes
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

to launch a nuclear strike.

And I doubt that capturing Pence would have been that easy - his SS protectors I image would have used lethal force if it had actually come to that.

Inflammatory nonsense IMO...

Lovie777

(12,232 posts)
9. As to the briefcase I'm pretty sure that they have a "fail safe" in place . ...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jul 2021

if terrorist, other than secure persons lose procession of it.

SS is there to protect both and a fire fight would have been pursued.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
10. Yes, one would hope
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

there is a fail-safe - it would be a pretty crazy situation if not. IIRC a launch request has to go through the Sec Defense at least and, failing that, a backup. I imagine the JCS might also be in the launch authorization sequence.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
8. This horse has been well beaten
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jul 2021

As to why getting possession of the codes would not serve any practical purpose.

It would have been a major embarrassment but no missiles could be launched.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. They should've shot the invaders the second they breached the line.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jul 2021

I hope they do shoot to kill the next time they try this shit. You cannot allow the Capitol to be sacked.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
15. Good grief!
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jul 2021

By the way, I remember Pence being removed by security before anyone else at the Capitol on January 6th. I was watching live coverage on C-SPAN at the time. That was before I even saw the Capitol was breached by anyone, but the removal of Pence made it clear that something ominous was about to happen.

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