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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is it considered radical that we should significantly invest in the needs of the working class?
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Lovie777
(12,218 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)If working class people have money,time to think and aren't in poverty they'll start asking for stuff like worker's rights,clean air,raises and social justice,the 1 percenters see that as a threat to thier imagined hierarchical order.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)Like James Madison and some other founders.
Which makes it easier to understand their continued undermining of democracy too.
https://chomsky.info/commongood02/
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Aristotle also made the point that if you have, in a perfect democracy, a small number of very rich people and a large number of very poor people, the poor will use their democratic rights to take property away from the rich. Aristotle regarded that as unjust, and proposed two possible solutions: reducing poverty (which is what he recommended) or reducing democracy.
James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty. He believed that the primary goal of government is "to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." As his colleague John Jay was fond of putting it, "The people who own the country ought to govern it."
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Pretty much the major, but often unspoken, struggle between Democrats and Republicans even today.
TheRealNorth
(9,470 posts)Have bamboozled people into thinking taxing the rich is "stealing" from them.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)"Its radical because billionaires have spent a lot of money to tell people its radical."
Midnight Writer
(21,712 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,497 posts)had Trump shit on them
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Skittles
(153,113 posts)you know, they don't have trust funds, for example
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)A Hollywood producer?
The woman in the toll booth at the Chicago Skyway?
Kid at the deli in the Bronx?
Congressional staffer?
I mean, almost everybody has to work for a living, no? It's not 1851.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)Working class is a socioeconomic term describing persons in a social class marked by jobs that provide low pay and require limited skill. ... Today, most working-class jobs are found in the services sector and include clerical, retail sales, and low-skill manual labor vocations.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)It's a meaningless term today. Class composition is a mater of supreme importance, but the current state of theory and practice on it, especially in Democratic politics, is a fucking joke, as this exchange amply demonstrates. You send me to Google because the imagined understanding is thin as fuck and collapses under the slightest interrogation. Jesus, the Italian autonomists understood this in the 1960's but we're still pretending.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)you really need to calm down, and perhaps you could pony up a few bucks for DU while you participate; over and OUT
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Like I said, a joke.
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)brooklynite
(94,333 posts)It appears that the strategy is limited to tweets.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Dont worry the 1 percent will always have way more than most of us
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)My point is, what is Bernie doing to actually get the legislation passed? Wrangling for-signers? Strong- arming Democratic votes?
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Am I mistaken?
Its less than a week since the bill came out of committee , I assume the details of the bill are being hashed out by all democratic senators
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)My wife and I had a very nice dinner with him and Jane back in 2011. No objection either to his policy ideas, but I see no ability he has to implement them.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Just getting his ideas into the reconciliation bill is a huge accomplishment
I am sure he will have to fight to keep it from being watered down
I hope he stands up for improving medicare and lowering the age of availability
I could lose some of the family leave benefits, it doesnt seem fair to me some get paid time off for medical stuff when so many of us have no medical or none we can afford to use
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)
and to build relationships with other Senators to help get Bills passed.
Ask yourself: why is Schumer Majority Leader and Sanders is not?
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Wether other democratic senators want to support popular legislation is really on them
Besides manchin wanting to protect fossil fuels which other senators are not supporting the reconciliation bill?
I thought it had pretty wide support
Schumer is more of a politician while I see Bernie as a public servant, which would account for schumer being leader
It isnt a contest, they are suppose to be on the same side
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)librechik
(30,673 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)
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FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)... the one-per-centers would all be DEAD BROKE.
Let that sink in, and let us make sure the Repukes never win another election.
leftstreet
(36,098 posts)They believe they're middle class - which is apparently somewhere between owning a yacht or holding up a will-work-for-food sign
malaise
(268,693 posts)We are disposable peons