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Passenger

(217 posts)
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:12 PM Jul 2021

Mississippi asks the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade (CNN)

Mississippi asks the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade (CNN)

Mississippi's attorney general told the Supreme Court on Thursday that Roe v. Wade was "egregiously wrong" and should be overturned as she urged the justices to allow a controversial law that bars most abortions after 15 weeks to go into effect.

"The conclusion that abortion is a constitutional right has no basis in text, structure, history, or tradition" state Attorney General Lynn Fitch told the justices in a new brief, launching the opening salvo in the most important abortion-related dispute the court has heard in decades.

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After years of chipping away around the edges, the frontal assault arrives.
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Mississippi asks the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade (CNN) (Original Post) Passenger Jul 2021 OP
Here we go. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #1
Why do you doubt they'll be successful? Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #4
Wishful thinking, I guess. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #8
Amy, Clarence, and Sam leftieNanner Jul 2021 #13
+1 peppertree Jul 2021 #22
They've been doing that since the 80s! Initech Jul 2021 #26
But now... SergeStorms Jul 2021 #31
and the WAR ON WOMEN. continues apace. Thank you for bringing this to us. Would niyad Jul 2021 #2
K & R Niyad Budi Jul 2021 #7
She's not a real woman in my book. BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #16
perfect! Of course, now I have an earworm of George Carlin's "wonderful WINO" niyad Jul 2021 #33
If they overturn, it will be one helluva political firestorm. roamer65 Jul 2021 #3
repukes would lose one of their pet issues Skittles Jul 2021 #20
THIS.☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ roamer65 Jul 2021 #21
Yep. They've nurtured this pet for decades.... paleotn Jul 2021 #29
Politically, it is probably one of the worst things they could ever do to themselves. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #34
Exactly. And they'd lose steam from one of their top wedge issues. paleotn Jul 2021 #36
The GOP manipulation of the SC composition was to overturn Roe V Wade andym Jul 2021 #5
A whole bunch of people gave the GOP that opportunity in 2016. Budi Jul 2021 #10
If Hillary had won, so much would have been different andym Jul 2021 #11
They can shut their opportunistic mouths & own their part in this devastating blow to human rights. Budi Jul 2021 #12
Certainly, that's been their aim for 40 years. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #35
When Hillary Clinton, 2016, tried to warn voters of this very urgent need to hold tthe SC, Budi Jul 2021 #6
Look on the bright side DFW Jul 2021 #14
Sarandon was too! "Burn it all down"..well except for her 60 million$$$ perch high above the flames. Budi Jul 2021 #23
Aaaand here it is Hekate Jul 2021 #9
So has Mississippi Dakota Flint Jul 2021 #15
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #17
No basis? Civil rights as enumerated, or as exclusionary? bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #18
when are the bone heads noneof_theabove Jul 2021 #19
dear missississippi , how is this going to balance your state budget. pay for schools AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #24
But the right to medical privacy is ... aggiesal Jul 2021 #25
Looking at how many precedents SCOTUS has overturned... ancianita Jul 2021 #27
If overturned, coat hangers will really become big business, especially rusty ones. Funeral homes RKP5637 Jul 2021 #28
I wonder, will Mississippi eventually just sink into the Gulf ... RKP5637 Jul 2021 #30
There is something "egregiously wrong" with the government of Mississippi! madinmaryland Jul 2021 #32

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
1. Here we go.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:21 PM
Jul 2021

I doubt they'll be successful, but they'll be smearing their lies around like monkeys throwing feces at the zoo.

Mississippi. They must have tossed a coin with Alabama, and won. They've been waiting a long time for this.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
4. Why do you doubt they'll be successful?
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jul 2021

I have full expectation there's enough votes at the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
8. Wishful thinking, I guess.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:39 PM
Jul 2021

Hoping that all of the Supremes rule where the law lies, not where religious dogma lies.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
13. Amy, Clarence, and Sam
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jul 2021

are 100% religious dogma. Maybe Gorsuch and Kavanaugh too.

I hope along side of you that precedent will prevail.

peppertree

(21,621 posts)
22. +1
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jul 2021

They've got the Handmaid, Long Dong Silver, Scalito, Boof Boy, and Nonesuch.

It's like seeing 5 rejects from the Middle Ages crammed into Bill and Ted's phone booth.

niyad

(113,235 posts)
2. and the WAR ON WOMEN. continues apace. Thank you for bringing this to us. Would
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:23 PM
Jul 2021

you consider cross-posting this in Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in advance.

This woman is a perfect example of why "not all women are my sisters."

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
16. She's not a real woman in my book.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:00 PM
Jul 2021

She certainly fits in another catagory though and I can't write it here or the DU jury will nail me. The closest I can get is WINO (woman in name only).

niyad

(113,235 posts)
33. perfect! Of course, now I have an earworm of George Carlin's "wonderful WINO"
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:39 PM
Jul 2021

playing in my head.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. If they overturn, it will be one helluva political firestorm.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:24 PM
Jul 2021

Not seen since 1860.

I will be onboard in Michigan with a ballot proposal to put a woman’s right to privacy in our state constitution.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
20. repukes would lose one of their pet issues
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:23 PM
Jul 2021

look at their response to Covid, we KNOW they are not pro-life, they are simply anti-women

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
29. Yep. They've nurtured this pet for decades....
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:09 PM
Jul 2021

Now they're tossing it aside and going full on nutter. I guess too much cool aid makes one do stupid stuff.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,341 posts)
34. Politically, it is probably one of the worst things they could ever do to themselves.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jul 2021

I think it would tend to wake up a lot of younger, non-voters, especially women, and get them motivated. Certainly our party would do all we could to make it so.

andym

(5,443 posts)
5. The GOP manipulation of the SC composition was to overturn Roe V Wade
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:29 PM
Jul 2021

Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett were appointed because the GOP thought they would be capable of overturning Roe V. Wade. Many will be surprised if they along with Thomas and Alito don't overturn it, sooner rather than later. The only question is whether Roberts will join them.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. A whole bunch of people gave the GOP that opportunity in 2016.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:42 PM
Jul 2021

Handed it right over to them.

Waiting for all the culpable players to suddenly be shouting "Women's Rights!!"

You fking gave it to them!

andym

(5,443 posts)
11. If Hillary had won, so much would have been different
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

For one, imagine how many more would be alive and not have succumbed to Covid.
For another, American democracy would not be under threat by Trump and his Party.
But alas the past is irreversible.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. They can shut their opportunistic mouths & own their part in this devastating blow to human rights.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

For starters.

"Women's Right are Human Rights, once and for all"
1st Lady Hillary Clinton

"Women's rights are human rights" is a phrase used in the feminist movement. ... Its most prominent usage is as the name of a speech given by Hillary Rodham Clinton, the First Lady of the United States, on 5 September 1995, at the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing.

Who sought to demean, ignore, mock & omit it from the credentials of the ONE 2016 candidate who foresaw the damage ahead with our SC.

THEY CAN NOW PROUDLY OWN THIS RESULT.

I am livid.
The impact of their blatant ignorance & dirty play is immeasurable.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,341 posts)
35. Certainly, that's been their aim for 40 years.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jul 2021

When it comes to Republicans and supreme court nominations, abortion has been their one and only issue.


OK, and maybe guns, but to a much lessor degree.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. When Hillary Clinton, 2016, tried to warn voters of this very urgent need to hold tthe SC,
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:33 PM
Jul 2021

She was mocked, vilified, scorned & her name, her life of women's & human rights advancement was buried under denigrating memes & slogans.
Just as the same struggle shown throughout the entire history of women against the authoritarian patriarchy of men, & unbelievably..the women who opportunistically jumped on that clear silencing of generations of struggle, by dragging this one woman's name thru the dirt.
SHAME ON YOU ALL.

And where did it all get us today?

OWN THIS SHIT. YOU ESPECIALLY MEDIA.


Here it is. Read It.

Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, 2016/Supreme Court

https://ballotpedia.org/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016/Supreme_Court#Clinton_on_the_Supreme_Court

*****

Raise your fking hand if you aided in ignoring the SC in 2016.

Trump
STEIN
BS

Ya. You fools. 👎


DFW

(54,335 posts)
14. Look on the bright side
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jul 2021

Maybe Hillary didn't take office in 2016, but at least Nina Turner was happy.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
23. Sarandon was too! "Burn it all down"..well except for her 60 million$$$ perch high above the flames.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jul 2021

And I can name a long list who'll loudly screech after today, " Women's Rights!!"
They'll grab hold of that populist campaign slogan, send out fundraser$ & never utter a word of their part in the devastation of past & future generations.

Nor will they ever utter a word for the one woman who warned & foresaw the consequences of an SC lost to ignorant, shortsighted self-promotion.

They hand delivered it to the tRump christofascists.
THEY CAN NOW PROUDLY OWN IT.

There is no bright side.

 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
15. So has Mississippi
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jul 2021

abolished the death penalty? I didn't think so. Idiots living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
18. No basis? Civil rights as enumerated, or as exclusionary?
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:12 PM
Jul 2021

There is no constitutional right to eat eggplants, but no one has a problem with it.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
19. when are the bone heads
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:22 PM
Jul 2021

going to learn what Federal Law is for.

It there to stop the argument amongst the states when the cannot come to a consensus.

Same thing about same thing marriage.

This state wants A, another wants B, another wants nothing to do with it.

So the Feds have to come in and level the fields.

We are the United States of America not a Bunch of Disassociated States.

Example ONLY:
Military couple get same sex marriage license.
Now that have to relocate to a base in Floriduh.
Oops, no same sex marriage in a red state.

So to make it fair, it has been written in the law that those of legal age can marry who they want.

Why are rich white men against abortions when they will never have one.

AllaN01Bear

(18,119 posts)
24. dear missississippi , how is this going to balance your state budget. pay for schools
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jul 2021

pay for levvies and so on.
o darn. they dont give a hoot , hoot ,hoot.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
25. But the right to medical privacy is ...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:45 PM
Jul 2021

That's what Roe .v. Wade was about.

It is nobody's business what is said between a patient and their doctor.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
27. Looking at how many precedents SCOTUS has overturned...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jul 2021
Roberts court on abortion

While it has not overturned Roe, the court under Roberts has twice rolled back abortion-rights protections that had previously been supported by the Supreme Court. In the first, the court allowed a federal ban on the late-pregnancy procedure called partial-birth abortion (Gonzalez, 2007), the first time in the post-Roe era that the court banned a particular procedure. It reversed a ruling from seven years prior when the court under Chief Justice William Rehnquist had rejected a Nebraska ban on partial-birth abortion (Stenberg, 2000).

More recently, the Roberts court threw out a Massachusetts buffer law that kept protesters away from clinic entrances (Coakley, 2014). A Colorado limit on protesters had been approved in 2000 (Hill). Three judges called for throwing out Hill, altogether, but the liberals joined the conservatives in finding that the buffer was so large it violated the protesters’ First Amendment rights.

In its most recent abortion case, the court said Texas had gone too far with restrictions on clinics and doctors (Whole Women’s Health, 2016). Several cases are pending that could allow judgments on restrictions, or provide a window for overturning the law altogether.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/21/how-often-does-supreme-court-overturn-precedents-like-roe-v-wade/

SCOTUS has made 17 abortion decisions in 46 policies.

I hope SCOTUS justices examine data on states' abortion laws.
How any state can still get a SCOTUS hearing is beyond me.



RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
28. If overturned, coat hangers will really become big business, especially rusty ones. Funeral homes
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:08 PM
Jul 2021

will have a good time of it too! And this is the 21st century.

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