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viva la

(3,350 posts)
2. No one else would say this, but I want Democrats to emulate Larry Craig
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:39 PM
Jul 2021

Yeah, the "wide-stance" senator.

Caught soliciting in an airport restroom, he agreed to resign.
Just never did. He just... stayed in office, served out his term.

Democrats should be just as arrogant. Apologize. Vow to do better. Stick it out.

(Oh, and let's never forget David "Diaper" Vitter. Prostitution. Diapers. Got caught. Apologized WHILE denying. Didn't just serve out his term-- ran for governor next. Absolutely shameless. A good-bad example.)

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
4. Craig's and Vitter's dalliances were off the clock...
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jul 2021

A sexual relationship with a staffer is totally different category.

viva la

(3,350 posts)
5. Oh, we can always categorize to say one scandal is worse than another.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jul 2021

But okay. How about this one:
Be like Clinton.

Or... Be like Trump. He was accused (more than once) of rape, and he just denied everything, called the women liars.

I mean, we should never be like Trump in any way.

But Democrats are too quick to be shamed (often by their Dem colleagues) into quitting.
Al Franken comes to mind.

Celerity

(43,610 posts)
6. the only proven affair was before she was in Congress, with a female campaign staffer, as part
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jul 2021

of a throuple with her abusive ex husband. That was not under any sort of Congressional ethics purview.

Graham Kelly (her Congressional Legislative director) and Hill completely deny they had a an affair.

Alleged Katie Hill lover speaks out: ‘I’m innocent, broken and suicidal’

https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/alleged-katie-hill-lover-speaks-out-i-am-the-victim/

Graham Kelly has finally escaped the eye of the scandalous storm that swirled around his boss, then-Congresswoman Katie Hill — but he didn’t emerge unscathed. He’s been slandered as Hill’s lover, his promising political career is over, and he frequently thinks of suicide, he told The Post in his first in-depth interview since the sex scandal exploded in October. “There were countless times I was standing on the metro station where I was like, ‘Hey, what if I jumped in front of the train right now,” Kelly confessed. “My apartment is on the third floor and I walk on the balcony and I just like stare out off the deck [and think] maybe I should jump. I have those thoughts all the damn time.”

After naked photos of Hill hit the internet, she confessed to sleeping with a female campaign staffer as part of a “throuple” with her now-estranged husband, and eventually resigned from Congress. But she has always characterized herself as a victim, destroyed by “revenge porn,” a double sexual standard for women, and political enemies. But Kelly, 31, insists he is the only innocent victim in the sordid affair. “My promising career went up in smoke over something that was out of my control,” he said. “I think since I’m like this 30-year-old bro guy, nobody gave a f–k about me and it was easier to cast me aside.”

Kelly joined Hill’s staff in 2017 after the aspiring California pol found his information on an Emily’s List resume database. After two phone calls, he packed his bags and flew across the country from a state senate office job in Brooklyn to join Hill’s congressional campaign as finance director. As Hill emerged as a media darling, Kelly found his work on the campaign featured in fawning coverage from Vice and HBO. “Katie and I were attached at the hip,” Kelly said. When Hill won her race in 2018, unseating GOP incumbent Steve Knight, Kelly went with the then-31-year-old lawmaker to Washington, taking on a new role as legislative director.

The train went off the rails, however, after the conservative blog RedState, published photographs and text messages in October 2019 showing Hill had been involved in a three-way relationship with her estranged husband, Kenny Heslep, and a 24-year-old campaign staffer, Morgan Desjardins. Lewd photos of Hill with Desjardins were later published by the Daily Mail. Hill blasted the release of photos, but ultimately admitted to an inappropriate relationship and apologized. Kelly soon became a focus of national headlines when Heslep accused Hill that same month in a now-deleted Facebook post of having another affair “with her (male) finance director for the past year at least.” It would have been a violation of recently enacted House rules forbidding lawmakers from having sexual relationships with staff.

Kelly flatly denies he was ever Hill’s lover.

“There was never a romantic relationship between us,” he told The Post, saying he believes Heslep confused him for Playboy reporter Alex Thomas — who began a relationship with Hill in June 2019.

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bottomofthehill

(8,352 posts)
7. She did the right thing after doing the wrong thing
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jul 2021

The wrong thing was having relations with a subordinate. That is both wrong and a violation of House Rules.

She did the right thing by resigning and owning it.

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