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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 06:32 AM Jul 2021

Catholic priest who wants to prevent Biden from receiving communion resigns in sex scandal

Last month, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) approved a measure that could prohibit President Biden, a devout Catholic, from receiving communion. Conservative bishops do not wish Biden to receive communion because of his support for abortion rights.

Monsignor Jeffrey Burrill, general secretary of the USCCB, was a strong supporter of the measure, but he has resigned due to allegations of "serial sexual misconduct," as reported in The PIllar, a Catholic publication. Burrill was allegedly using Grindr for sex hookups, which goes against Catholic priests' vow of celibacy.

[link:https://boingboing.net/2021/07/22/catholic-priest-who-wants-to-prevent-biden-from-receiving-communion-resigns-in-sex-scandal.html|]

To be clear I do not care about this Priests sex life, I think celibacy is an absolute nonsense, but the hypocrisy of trying to deny Biden communion because you are right wing moralising about a policy position, while you are breaking the most important rule of a Priests life... ridiculous.
Rule to live your life by. Let he who casts the first stone make bloody sure he is not squatting in a glass house!
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Catholic priest who wants to prevent Biden from receiving communion resigns in sex scandal (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2021 OP
Of course Effete Snob Jul 2021 #1
You'd think these guys would put away their own petards before they tried to hoist other people. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #2
Classic ! There's another priest on Youtube (can't remember name) who is obsessed with Biden, and OnDoutside Jul 2021 #3
I had a discussion/argument with a self-proclaimed evangelical Christian who thinks that lkinwi Jul 2021 #4
I used to enjoy messing with evangelical minds thucythucy Jul 2021 #9
I like your arguments! I'm going to save them for my use later, if you don't mind! SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #19
Be my guest! thucythucy Jul 2021 #20
I always wonder if these sanctimonious wedding cake bakers and florists tanyev Jul 2021 #16
So she gets to decide that? She alone knows the mind of God? paleotn Jul 2021 #24
It has been said that... EYESORE 9001 Jul 2021 #5
Wanna bet this guy won't be cut off from receiving communion? thucythucy Jul 2021 #6
Indeed. benfranklin1776 Jul 2021 #11
I always liked the part where Jesus says thucythucy Jul 2021 #13
Precisely! benfranklin1776 Jul 2021 #18
I have it on good authority, 2Gingersnaps Jul 2021 #35
I can only say one thing OldBaldy1701E Jul 2021 #7
Holy shit! PatSeg Jul 2021 #8
As a Catholic... gradmaster Jul 2021 #10
I'm truly glad to see this thucythucy Jul 2021 #14
X 100! 2Gingersnaps Jul 2021 #36
Homosexual priests. Not even news anymore. Just more details. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #12
Is this what poses as a good Catholic? BeckyDem Jul 2021 #15
The Lord works in mysterious ways... spanone Jul 2021 #17
Are you sure this is true. Makes no sense bc he was outted by a conservative rag arlyellowdog Jul 2021 #21
We need a new irony meter for this! Generic Other Jul 2021 #22
I KNEW I should have patented mine! Hugin Jul 2021 #25
Perhaps the Catholic Church needs to focus its attention on the larger problem of predator priests. MrModerate Jul 2021 #23
Welcome to conservative Christianity folks. paleotn Jul 2021 #26
I had scrolled by Cosmo Blues Jul 2021 #27
This is being framed by some as a Dorian Gray Jul 2021 #28
!!! THIS !!! keopeli Jul 2021 #32
That's why these Catholic Bishops are all TeapubliKKKans... 634-5789 Jul 2021 #29
Interesting thought. Hangingon Jul 2021 #39
Notice that he's gay and he's a hyper-conservative. Many gay people are very conservative. keopeli Jul 2021 #30
I am shocked, SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked. Initech Jul 2021 #31
Farewell, Father Fuck Blue Owl Jul 2021 #33
Boundless hypocrisy! BlueWavePsych Jul 2021 #34
The Catholic Church is arguably the wealthiest organization in the world. panader0 Jul 2021 #37
Remember Speaker of the House Livingston? Bucky Jul 2021 #38

Scrivener7

(50,941 posts)
2. You'd think these guys would put away their own petards before they tried to hoist other people.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 06:58 AM
Jul 2021

But they never do.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
3. Classic ! There's another priest on Youtube (can't remember name) who is obsessed with Biden, and
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:02 AM
Jul 2021

it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if it turns out that he's another.

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
4. I had a discussion/argument with a self-proclaimed evangelical Christian who thinks that
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:04 AM
Jul 2021

it is perfectly acceptable to to have a hierarchy of sins. She was trashing churches that allow gay clergy and that anyone who attends these churches are sinning. When I reminded her that she wasn’t perfect, she argued that her “sin” of living with her boyfriend before marriage wasn’t as bad as the “sin” of homosexuality, therefore, she will go to heaven and gays will not. 🙄 There’s no arguing with idiocy.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
9. I used to enjoy messing with evangelical minds
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:25 AM
Jul 2021

back when I couldn't help encountering them. They always started it, but it most often ended with them slinking away to lick their wounds.

One sure fire method was to point out their arrogance in presuming to know how their God was going to judge them. Christians are supposed to be humble, not a trait you find in very many American evangelicals.

In her case I would have pointed out her sin of pride. Her God hates, just hates, pride, arrogance, and self-righteousness.

One zinger that also almost always unsettled them: "How can you be sure that God didn't send me to warn you about your arrogance? How can you know He hasn't looked into your heart and found you wanting?"

If nothing else it made certain that that particular evangelical would never bother me again. Now and again though one would try for a rematch, and I'd say, "Are you still rejecting God's word, still banishing Christ from your heart out of your own foolish pride?"

In her case I would have added: "How dare you? Not only do you defy His Word by living in sin, you then presume to know how you will be judged? Go back to the Bible and read how Christ dealt with hypocrites. 'Judgment is mine, sayeth the Lord.' God spurns the prideful heart, and your heart seems steeped in pride and arrogance. I bet you even pray out loud and in public, something else Jesus condemned. And yet here you are practically dictating to God how you think He should judge you. Your sin is pride, and yes, pride goeth before a fall."

As I got older I tried not to be so cruel as to delight in their discomfort, but in recent years my tolerance for these folks is at an all time low.

tanyev

(42,543 posts)
16. I always wonder if these sanctimonious wedding cake bakers and florists
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:43 AM
Jul 2021

who refuse to do gay weddings ever quiz the hetero couples who contact them as to whether their relationship began as an adulterous affair. Which is, of course, an actual commandment.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
24. So she gets to decide that? She alone knows the mind of God?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jul 2021

What arrogance. Personally, I've found Christianity to be one of the most ridiculously arrogant of all religions.

EYESORE 9001

(25,927 posts)
5. It has been said that...
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:16 AM
Jul 2021

‘Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest’
-Denis Diderot

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
6. Wanna bet this guy won't be cut off from receiving communion?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:04 AM
Jul 2021

The blatant hypocrisy is so very evident.

And isn't there a saying somewhere by someone about removing the beam from your own eye before straining at the gnat in another's?

Then too, "Let he who is without sin..."

And don't forget, "Judge not lest ye be judged."

Fun fact: Christ never said a word about abortion (or homosexuality).

He was quite adamant though about calling out hypocrites.

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
11. Indeed.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:27 AM
Jul 2021

Funny how hypocrites like this, and Jesus also strongly condemned hypocrisy if I recall, never seem to read or follow the source material. By their deeds you know them.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
13. I always liked the part where Jesus says
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:32 AM
Jul 2021

not to be like the hypocrites who make a public show out of their faith. A true follower, he says, will go into a closet and pray, and not lord it over everyone with how fucking pius they are.

That alone should blow mega-churches out of the water, with everyone "praising Jesus" as loudly and ostentatiously as they can.

But like you say, these folks rarely ponder those verses.

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
18. Precisely!
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:59 AM
Jul 2021

I quoted that passage once to a “bible shouter” at a public intersection who was loudly proclaiming his piety and the hell-bound sinfulness of myself and every other motorist stopped at the light. He was, probably for once, rendered speechless, so I encouraged him to read the book he was carrying for further clarification of my point.
Talk is, for these people, quite cheap.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
35. I have it on good authority,
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jul 2021

that if you give your sins to Jesus and praise him, your soul is clean. You're good. A proper ass kissing is all that is required. I was under the silly impression from Sunday School that the process went something like recognizing that you did wrong, own it, attempt to make restitution to who you wronged, feel genuine remorse, and do not repeat. Only then were you in the running for redemption. I came to this understanding because I have evangelical relatives. Simply amazing how God's judgement perfectly aligns with their self interest. Throwing in the loud public praise and jazz hands is extra.

PatSeg

(47,377 posts)
8. Holy shit!
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:25 AM
Jul 2021

Well, maybe not so "holy", but definitely shit! So easy to pass judgment on other people, especially when you are a priest.

gradmaster

(29 posts)
10. As a Catholic...
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:27 AM
Jul 2021

I am a practicing Catholic, that is I attend Mass each week and I am in our parish choir, as well as being a cantor. Long ago I stopped basing my belief in how a priest acts. My belief is based in the Scriptures. Jesus never started a "Church ", but people do like to gather with like-minded people, so... Would I willingly attend Mass or receive Communion from a priest that I knew was violating basic moral principles? Definitely not. I am embarrassed by the stand taken by the USCCB; however, not all bishops support that stand, and Pope Francis does not. Catholics are not like Evangelicals. We do not follow in lock -step with the so-called "heads"of the Church. Jesus, the person who accepted everyone, is the person many of us follow.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
14. I'm truly glad to see this
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:35 AM
Jul 2021

and to meet you.

I know many fine Christians, Catholics among them. They very often have a strong commitment to social justice, and serving the poor, the marginalized, even the despised. They also tend to be truly humble.

THAT I can and do respect. The high and mighty judges of other's sins and actions--not so much.

Best wishes.

keithbvadu2

(36,750 posts)
12. Homosexual priests. Not even news anymore. Just more details.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:30 AM
Jul 2021

Homosexual priests. Not even news anymore. Just more details.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
15. Is this what poses as a good Catholic?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:40 AM
Jul 2021

Burrill appears to be an even bigger hypocrite because the USCCB has opposed LGBTQ equality, same-sex adoption, and the development of an LGBTQ suicide hotline. It has also promoted anti-trans legislation.



How can anyone with a heart oppose a suicide hotline?

I hope they investigate who he "hooked up" with and make sure they were of legal age to consent.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
21. Are you sure this is true. Makes no sense bc he was outted by a conservative rag
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

He works for the Catholic’s Bishop Council, but was he a backer of the anti Biden measure. I’m really asking. There are liberal and conservative Bishops. I am checking the news sources and I see he read the resolution, but I don’t see a sources that he was a conservative. I just wonder why would the conservative rag “The Pillar” go after a conservative?

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
26. Welcome to conservative Christianity folks.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021

Hypocrisy and arrogance at its absolute worst. I grew in over in the evangelical corner and it's the same story. The entire edifice is rotten to the core.

Cosmo Blues

(2,480 posts)
27. I had scrolled by
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jul 2021

An article saying a priest was on Grindr, since I really didn't care I just scrolled by, I didn't know it was one of those that had called for Biden not to get communion. Not quite instant but karma nonetheless

Dorian Gray

(13,490 posts)
28. This is being framed by some as a
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jul 2021

right wing priest being a hypocrite, but it is way more complicated than that.

The blog that released the story is relatively conservative itself. The Monsignor wasn't a bishop. He did work for the USCCB, though.

What is most disturbing is how the two editors of The Pillar got the metadata. Ed Condon and JD Flynn both worked for CNA last year and resigned to start this. Who is their funder, and who made this data available to them. (Though I don't have proof, there are a lot of option because CNA is EWTN's side gig, and they have a lot of relationships with VERY right wing Catholics.)

There is speculation in the more liberal Catholic community that this is a Steve Bannon gig, somehow.

But regardless of that, a priest should not be living a double life. He made vows that he is breaking and that is a very big problem in his ministry.

And the idea that this metadata is out there... available... to take anybody down and it's being funded by anonymous backers of this blog is disturbing. I don't believe that any actual newspapers would have accepted this story without understanding how the data became available to the editors. And while I used to respect Flynn and Condon, I'm really disturbed by the implications of this story.

If they had proof or an inside tip about this priest, they have enough power and name recognition in the catholic community to actually do something about it privately. Condon is a a canon lawyer, for christ's sake.

This is more than a hypocrite priest. It's about data privacy and what we can expect when we're using our cell phones.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
29. That's why these Catholic Bishops are all TeapubliKKKans...
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:41 PM
Jul 2021

Time Mag had a great article on this. Then they wonder why there's nobody in church.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
39. Interesting thought.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 09:50 AM
Jul 2021

Of course, the Catholic Church stands high on the KKK hit list. Don’t matter. KKK, NAZI Fascist are now just terms to use to malign anything we don’t like.

keopeli

(3,509 posts)
30. Notice that he's gay and he's a hyper-conservative. Many gay people are very conservative.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 11:29 PM
Jul 2021

First, I'm gay myself. I believe many on the left consider 99% of those of us who are gay to be very liberal. However, I've posited that this is not the case. Many, many gay people are super conservative. On the matter of gay rights, we shared a common goal. But, once that issue is resolved, the real partisan differences appear. My point is that you can not count on support from people based on their identity (i.e. gender, sexual identity, race, nationality, etc.) Instead, we must promote an agenda and work on getting others to understand how these solutions are better for them as well as how the propaganda artists confuse the situation and mislead people.

I suffer from this misconception myself. I can't believe it when I discover that a woman voted for Trump, or a gay person, or a Hispanic, etc. (Honestly, I don't see how anyone could support Trump, but that's another matter.) But, the reality is that an identifying trait does not imply the adoption of an ideology. By understanding this, we are better able to promote our policy goals as well as have a better grasp on who we are trying to reach and how best to address them.

I think this is an important lesson for us to learn as Democrats seeking a larger majority.

As for this Monsignor (or did he lose that title already), karma might not be mentioned in the bible, but it seems to do its job regardless! Those who are the most adamant in their defense of very divisive positions often have a hidden agenda and use extreme rhetoric as a way to mask their otherwise indefensible positions.

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
34. Boundless hypocrisy!
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jul 2021

They continue to treat LGBTQ community as sinners when they themselves are mostly gay

panader0

(25,816 posts)
37. The Catholic Church is arguably the wealthiest organization in the world.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 09:43 AM
Jul 2021

I'd say hypocrisy is the mainstay of their beliefs. These folks are supposedly worshipping a guy who
lived in poverty. The Catholic Church seems to be contrary to what they purportedly believe.
These people make Joel Osteen and his ilk look like amateurs.

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