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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,839 posts)
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 07:21 PM Jul 2021

Jewish Federation in Florida calls on grocers to stop carrying Ben & Jerry's products

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — The Jewish Federation of Broward County has called on all supermarket chains doing business in South Florida to discontinue carrying Ben & Jerry’s products in reaction to the ice cream company’s decision to halt sales in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Mark S. Freedman, the Federation’s interim president and chief executive officer, said, “Local South Florida supermarkets, small and large, are the main vehicle for sending a strong message to Ben & Jerry’s and its parent company, Unilever, that its selective boycott of Israel is unwarranted and unwise.”

“We encourage everyone in the supply chain – distributors, retailers and consumers – to refrain from doing business with Ben & Jerry’s,” Freedman continued. “By impacting its bottom line, we hope to apply enough pressure on Unilever to reverse its policy..”

However, Donna Nevel of Miami Beach, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace’s South Florida chapter, slammed the Federation for calling on supermarkets to discontinue Ben & Jerry’s products.

“Years of organizing for justice and liberation resulted in Ben and Jerry’s recognizing that their commitment to racial justice needed to include a commitment to justice for the Palestinian people,” Nevel said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jewish-federation-in-florida-calls-on-grocers-to-stop-carrying-ben-and-jerrys-products/ar-AAMubuN

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Jewish Federation in Florida calls on grocers to stop carrying Ben & Jerry's products (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
I am glad that is all they have to worry about. Chainfire Jul 2021 #1
I'll be buying some tomorrow Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #2
All I know is after Hillary became the nominee, theyrefused to endorse her over trump, and would not JohnSJ Jul 2021 #3
Your own link disagrees with you! karynnj Jul 2021 #10
Cohen would not commit JohnSJ Jul 2021 #16
That reminds me. I need to get myself a few cartons of Ben & Jerry's. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #4
Mmmm 😋 PlanetBev Jul 2021 #5
Ben and Jerry's makes vegan ice cream so I can get some mucifer Jul 2021 #6
Ben's maybe, but not Jerry's. lpbk2713 Jul 2021 #7
They aren't boycotting Israel. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #8
Ben and Jerry's wants to boycott all of Israel former9thward Jul 2021 #14
They're Boycotting B&J To Pressure... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #9
35 states have anti BDS laws. former9thward Jul 2021 #15
Prior restraint on political speech seems kind of unconstitutional, no? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #18
We will see if that survives appeal. former9thward Jul 2021 #20
The State Department also opposed the anti-apartheid movement in the '70's and '80's Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #21
You are comparing the State Department of Reagan with Biden's ? former9thward Jul 2021 #22
Not under international law they aren't. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #23
And the State Department (and Joe Biden) agree Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. former9thward Jul 2021 #24
The US is the only country to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #25
Anyone can boycott Israel if they want. former9thward Jul 2021 #28
again, anti-BDS laws have been found unconstitutional every time they've been challenged Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #40
There has only been a handful of cases. former9thward Jul 2021 #41
"The so-called occupied territories are Israel" Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #35
They do have citizenship and equality former9thward Jul 2021 #36
You're a good fiction writer. nt Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #37
+1 Celerity Jul 2021 #38
Whoosh! ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #26
Try again. former9thward Jul 2021 #30
Lol. No kidding JohnSJ Jul 2021 #17
My criteria for buying ice cream is tavernier Jul 2021 #11
The Jewish Federation of Broward County Ilsa Jul 2021 #12
The U.S. State Department opposes the BDS movement. former9thward Jul 2021 #13
BDS is a ploy to cover its real intentions which are not a two state solution JohnSJ Jul 2021 #19
So do I. I want us to do everything we honorably can to help Israeli liberals, Hortensis Jul 2021 #32
Hot tip Unwind Your Mind Jul 2021 #27
The Mayor of New York is one less customer of that flavor. former9thward Jul 2021 #31
NY pension fund puts Unilever on notice over Ben & Jerry's sales ban Mosby Jul 2021 #29
Some in power seem to be content straining out gnats and swallowing theophilus Jul 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Ptah Jul 2021 #34
Ben and Jerry's Malaysia Mosby Jul 2021 #39

JohnSJ

(92,112 posts)
3. All I know is after Hillary became the nominee, theyrefused to endorse her over trump, and would not
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jul 2021

commit to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016

That tells me everything I need to know about Ben and Jerry

Not selling their ice cream in the West Bank and Jerusalem, won’t do anything except deprive Palestinians from their ice cream. They are still selling it it Isresl

Like their position on Hillary, it didn’t help anyone, and this won’t help peace between Israel and the Palestinians

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2010/09/27/130158014/ben-jerry-s-takes-all-natural-claims-off-ice-cream-labels





karynnj

(59,500 posts)
10. Your own link disagrees with you!
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

They supported Bernie in the primary and then Hillary in the general.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
8. They aren't boycotting Israel.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jul 2021

Their products are still available in Israel. They are not available in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel continues to occupy in contravention of international law.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
14. Ben and Jerry's wants to boycott all of Israel
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:53 PM
Jul 2021

Its Unilever whch owns B&J that is boycotting the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The B&J Board wanted to boycott everything in Israel.

Ben & Jerry's board wanted to boycott all of Israel

Ben & Jerry's Independent Board of Directors wanted to boycott Israel in its entirety, but was stopped from doing so by the ice-cream maker's CEO and the British-based parent company Unilever.

"The statement released by Ben & Jerry's regarding its operation in Israel and the Occupied Palestine Territory does not reflect the position of the Independent Board nor was it approved by the Independent Board," read a statement by Ben & Jerry's Independent Board of Directors.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/ben-and-jerrys-board-wanted-to-boycott-all-of-israel-674405

ProfessorGAC

(64,960 posts)
9. They're Boycotting B&J To Pressure...
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:59 PM
Jul 2021

...Unilever?
Good luck with that!
B&J is a tiny slice of Unilever.
One region in Florida boycotting one tiny segment of a huge corporation isn't much pressure.
I don't think they thought this through.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
15. 35 states have anti BDS laws.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jul 2021

Including states like CA, NY, NJ and IL. TX and FL are currently determining if the actions by Unilever violate the laws. If so their products would be banned in the state. NY Mayor DeBlasio has announced a boycott of B&J. Maybe Unilever has not thought this through.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
20. We will see if that survives appeal.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jul 2021

Given that the majority of states have the laws and the State Department opposes the BDS movement, I doubt it will. A federal judge in Arkansas rejected an suit against their law but was reversed by the 8th Circuit, The issue most likely is headed to the SC. Regardless of what happens to the laws it will not stop calls for boycotts of those wanting to boycott Israel.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
21. The State Department also opposed the anti-apartheid movement in the '70's and '80's
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 11:57 PM
Jul 2021

and the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem are not Israel.

And anti-BDS laws have been found unconstitutional in almost every instance where they've come to trial (and in most cases rewritten to narrow their scope to exempt the plaintiff in the original suit). .

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
22. You are comparing the State Department of Reagan with Biden's ?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:49 AM
Jul 2021

Ok,your views. The so-called occupied territories are Israel and Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
23. Not under international law they aren't.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:07 AM
Jul 2021

And the State Department agrees that the West Bank is occupied territory.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
24. And the State Department (and Joe Biden) agree Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jul 2021

People love to shout "international law" when it comes to Israel (although they become vague when asked for anything specific) but ignore international law when the Palestinians fire rockets into civilian areas, hide their military units under civilian cover and send suicide bombers into Israel to blow up teenagers in pizza parlors.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
25. The US is the only country to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jul 2021

There have been numerous UN resolutions since 1967, all of which affirm the fundamental illegitimacy of Israel's continued occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as the fundamental illegitimacy of the settlements. There are plenty of specifics; the fact that you're ignorant of them doesn't make them go away. (I am also frankly rather appalled at your evident moral flexibility; your profile claims you're a "constitutional rights attorney", but hey, fuck the First Amendment if someone is using their free speech to engage in a boycott of Israel, I guess?)

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
28. Anyone can boycott Israel if they want.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

And I, and anyone else, am free to boycott those who boycott Israel. BTW the SC has long held commercial free speech is held to a lower standard than other free speech when it comes to restrictions. That is why cigarette manufacturers are forced to put a warning on their packs. That is what the BDS falls under.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
40. again, anti-BDS laws have been found unconstitutional every time they've been challenged
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 05:59 PM
Jul 2021

this is something that you should be aware of. That you're actually defending a patently unconstitutional law tells me all I really need to know about the breadth and depth of your commitment to the Constitution. Why do you hate the First Amendment?

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
41. There has only been a handful of cases.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:20 PM
Jul 2021

And a federal judge in Arkansas found for the law although reversed on appeal. So you have a double "exaggeration" to put it kindly. And you know that. Unilever has far more to worry about when it comes to boycotts than the anti-BDS law. They are a consumer company.

Why stop at the First Amendment? Why not ask why I hate the Constitution?

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
35. "The so-called occupied territories are Israel"
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jul 2021

So how come millions of people living in Israel have no citizenship or equality under the law? Sounds a whole lot like apartheid to me.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
36. They do have citizenship and equality
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:06 PM
Jul 2021

Maybe you have never had the opportunity to visit Israel. Most Arabs have rejected citizenship. No one can force them to accept it. The Arab political parties have refused, until recently, to participate in the government.

The UN created Israel to be a Jewish state. It was never intended to be a one size fits all country. Just as all the countries which surround Israel are one religion states. Islam. Jews that lived in those countries were either killed or driven out. But somehow no one seems to think that is a big deal. Just Israel. I wonder why???

ProfessorGAC

(64,960 posts)
26. Whoosh!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:31 PM
Jul 2021

That sound is the point zooming over your head.
They're NOT banning or boycotting Unilever products. They're targeting B&J which is a blip in Unilever's cash flow.
Try reading for comprehension, next time.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
30. Try again.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jul 2021

B&J may be a "blip" in Unilever's cash flow but people will boycott any of their products. BTW if it is so insignificant why did they buy B&J in the first place? I guess they should have hired you to be their financial advisor.

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
13. The U.S. State Department opposes the BDS movement.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

While refusing to directy address the Ben and Jerry boycott they oppose the BDS movemnt against Israel.

US State Department vows to oppose BDS after Ben & Jerry’s settlement pullout

The US State Department on Tuesday reiterated the Biden administration’s opposition to the boycott Israel movement after Ben & Jerry’s announced it will stop selling ice cream in West Bank settlements, but refused to specifically address the Vermont-based firm’s decision.

“I don’t have a reaction to offer regarding the actions of a private company. More broadly what I would say is that we firmly reject the BDS movement, which unfairly singles out Israel,” spokesman Ned Price said during the daily briefing, using the initials for boycotts, divestment and sanctions.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-state-department-vows-to-oppose-bds-after-ben-jerrys-settlement-pullout/

Mayor de Blasio says he'll boycott Ben & Jerry's over Israel stance

"You cannot have peace if you undermine the economic reality and create division," de Blasio said. "I just believe it's the absolute wrong approach and I don't think Ben & Jerry's should be doing that."

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett says Ben & Jerry's has decided to brand itself as the "anti-Israel ice cream."

He says its decision will have serious consequences for the company, and its parent company Unilever.

https://abc7ny.com/ben--jerrys-mayor-bill-de-blasio-jerry-boycott-isreal/10900384/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. So do I. I want us to do everything we honorably can to help Israeli liberals,
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jul 2021

of all religions and power blocs, overthrow government domination by Israel's conservative "trumpist" types. Nations aren't bad -- but some people in every nation will always abuse others if they can, and when very bad things happen to hapless people you know they've gotten control.

Many well-meaning ignorant people mistakenly believe BDM is a moral movement; but it's actually heavily fueled and weaponized by both antisemites and anti-Israel interests. Muslims and Jews in Palestine should all have the same rights and opportunities. But too many BDM pushers don't want that, and many openly advocate against a two-state solution -- they want Israel erased.

I've been disgusted a number of times by ardent BDMers who couldn't discuss even one of the tragically oppressed peoples in virtually every other nation in the ME, much less with even a fraction of outrage reserved for Israel alone. There are movements trying to help all those millions of people, so why don't these people know it and even join one?

“I don’t have a reaction to offer regarding the actions of a private company. More broadly what I would say is that we firmly reject the BDS movement, which unfairly singles out Israel.” Our State Department's position.

Yes, but I'd prefer they aso explained WHY it singles out Israel.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,041 posts)
27. Hot tip
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jul 2021

Ben & Jerry’s is making these things called slices. Picture a slice from a pint, dipped in chocolate. The Cherry Garcia one is super delicious 😋

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
31. The Mayor of New York is one less customer of that flavor.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jul 2021

"I can say that I won’t be eating anymore Cherry Garcia for awhile,” de Blasio said, referring to the brand’s popular flavor.

He added, “That’s sad to me. I don’t know them well, but I’ve met them over the years and I think they’re good people, literally Ben and Jerry. I think they’re good people with good values, but this is a mistake. They shouldn’t do this.”

https://www.tampafp.com/i-wont-be-eating-anymore-cherry-garcia-for-awhile-de-blasio-calls-ben-jerrys-israel-boycott-a-mistake/

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
29. NY pension fund puts Unilever on notice over Ben & Jerry's sales ban
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jul 2021

The main pension fund for New York’s state government workers and retirees warned Ben & Jerry’s parent company, Unilever, on Friday that it might restrict its investments in the company because of the ice cream maker’s decision to halt sales in Israeli-occupied territories.

In a letter obtained by The Post, Liz Gordon, executive director of corporate governance for the $254.8 billion New York State Common Retirement Fund, informed Unilever CEO Alan Jope that state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli “is troubled and concerned” by Ben & Jerry’s announcement.

Gordon noted that the state pension fund has a policy of restricting investments in companies involved in the anti-Israel boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement, and reports suggest that “Ben & Jerry’s, a Unilever wholly owned subsidiary, is involved in BDS activities.”

https://nypost.com/2021/07/23/ny-pension-fund-puts-unilever-on-notice-for-ben-jerrys-sales-ban/

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
33. Some in power seem to be content straining out gnats and swallowing
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jul 2021

camels. The culture war issues are what many use to imbue dumb to the plebs. Where else do we see this? There is definitely a pattern. There is "free" speech if you are prepared to "suffer the consequences". The same goes for disagreeing with the powerful. Stand right up and speak your truth and then be shot down or cancelled. Sad. The sheep will be shorn.

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