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The Gloves Come Off: Here Come The Vaccine Mandates (Original Post) Mrs. Claw Jul 2021 OP
Believe it when I see it Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #1
This would make the midterms interesting n/t leftstreet Jul 2021 #2
I might support Jerry2144 Jul 2021 #3
There are countries begging for the vaccine. BeckyDem Jul 2021 #4
Big federal mandates right now would incite civil resistance and aggression, Hortensis Jul 2021 #5
And vaccine passports, too spinbaby Jul 2021 #6
You say that like it's a bad thing UpInArms Jul 2021 #7
If we'd like to start losing more elections Sympthsical Jul 2021 #8
Get vaxxed or get sacked! Initech Jul 2021 #9
Two Big Employers Around Here... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #10
That's the way it should be. Initech Jul 2021 #11
My outfit has a simple attitude DFW Jul 2021 #12
Control Rooms In Those 2 Places... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #13

Jerry2144

(2,081 posts)
3. I might support
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jul 2021

Voter ID laws if the only ID accepted is a COVID vaccine card. It would make things easier for the good people to win office in very red areas of the US



Edit to fix typo

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Big federal mandates right now would incite civil resistance and aggression,
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jul 2021

as well as amp up noise from RW politicians. How much or little? The results are not certain in a nation dangerously divided and unstable to the point of nihilism.

HOWEVER, Biden said the first full FDA approval of a vaccine may come as early as the end of August, if not then September or October. That will both cut the bottom from under a main argument for waiting and loose a lot of large public and private actions that are waiting on that. Including likely mandatory vaccination for those in the military.

Before those sticks, however, the Giant Delta Stick is here. It's already exploding faster and worse than anything we've seen before -- against those not vaccinated. We're already seeing an ass-covering effect on Fox.

Fox's Steve Doocy: “Here’s the thing. And one of the CDC officials said yesterday, look, the pandemic right now is really just with people who have not been vaccinated. Ninety-nine percent of the people who died have not been vaccinated,” he said. “What they are trying to do is make sure that all of the people who have not been vaccinated get vaccinated.”

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
6. And vaccine passports, too
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

If you’re not vaccinated, no restaurant for you, no plane for you, no school for you, no job with human contact for you.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
7. You say that like it's a bad thing
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jul 2021

I am tired of Covidiots determining to kill themselves and others running this show.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
8. If we'd like to start losing more elections
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jul 2021

Elections are won based on which side is more motivated.

That would be motivating.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
10. Two Big Employers Around Here...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

...are making noises about taking action to get vax percent up.
These two places employ around 1,200 people in very good paying gigs. (The vast majority make 75 grand & up)
Both are talking about suspending raises for salaried staff if they're not vaxxed. Talking about not allowing OT to hourly staff that's not vaxxed, and the unions have bought in. (The 2 locals have been very assertive in encouraging vaccinations in the rank & file, and it sounds like they're fed up.)
One is even talking about job reassignments for non-vaxxed people who have functions making it impossible to not work right next to others.
The other is considering shutting the quality department to unvaxxed personnel so their vaxxed partners have to do all that interfacing. (At that plant, 100% of quality staff is vaxxed.)
I would think if these 2 lead the way, others are likely to follow.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
11. That's the way it should be.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

The scary thing is that anti-vaxxers think this whole thing is funny or it's a joke. And they do it mainly to get likes on social media. Not so funny when your quest to get liked costs you your job, is it?

I know if I worked for a large firm I wouldn't want someone sitting next to me who isn't fully vaccinated.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
12. My outfit has a simple attitude
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jul 2021

Get vaxxed or get lost. We're all vaxxed, so it's not even an issue. Masks in the office are mandatory, too, though they can come off in conference rooms with 6 feet of distance between any two participants.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
13. Control Rooms In Those 2 Places...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jul 2021

...have 4 to 10 people in them, 12 hours at a time.
There would be only a cumulative 30-90 minutes each day where a person is the only one in the room.
If there's 6 people, and 5 are vaxxed and the hold out hasn't done it by now, they just don't care about their coworkers.
I wouldn't want to be around that 44 hours a week, either.
So, the companies need to incentivize vaxxing, with a club if necessary.
Want to continue making 90 grand a year? Get the shot!

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