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sl8

(13,717 posts)
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:44 AM Jul 2021

Jeff Bezos and Sir Richard Branson not yet astronauts, US says

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57950149

Jeff Bezos and Sir Richard Branson not yet astronauts, US says

Published 17 hours ago

In a move that pours cold water on the dreams of a few billionaire space explorers, the US has tightened its definition of the word "astronaut".

New Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) rules say astronaut hopefuls must be part of the flight crew and make contributions to space flight safety.

That means Jeff Bezos and Sir Richard Branson may not yet be astronauts in the eyes of the US government.

These are the first changes since the FAA wings programme began in 2004.

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Jeff Bezos and Sir Richard Branson not yet astronauts, US says (Original Post) sl8 Jul 2021 OP
I was just thinking that yesterday - they're grown men playing dress up Merlot Jul 2021 #1
Nothing more than passengers. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #2
baggage rampartc Jul 2021 #4
And we have to say this... why? grumpyduck Jul 2021 #3
This Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #6
Ahh, the old Move the Goalposts strategery Champp Jul 2021 #5
Come on, the first Weinermobile in space has to count for something, no? Brother Buzz Jul 2021 #7
I don't know much about Jeff Bezos quickesst Jul 2021 #8
My view is, if you're wealthy, it's easy to be a philanthropist. Aristus Jul 2021 #10
I admire those people too... quickesst Jul 2021 #11
The Mercury spacecraft was originally designed to be fully automatic. Aristus Jul 2021 #9
Penis Rocket Riders sarcasmo Jul 2021 #12
Darn tootin' they aren't astronauts. Karma13612 Jul 2021 #13
Question for those who are saying "damn right" - how do you feel about Wally Funk? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2021 #14

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
1. I was just thinking that yesterday - they're grown men playing dress up
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jul 2021

in jumpsuit costumes with little badges and name tags (and spending billions of dollars).

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
3. And we have to say this... why?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jul 2021

Of course they're not astronauts, any more than a guy taking a back seat ride in a fighter plane is a fighter pilot.

It's insulting to the highly-skilled people who spend years training and work their butts off up there.

Geez, billionaires, grow up.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
5. Ahh, the old Move the Goalposts strategery
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

Now the billionaire boys will have to join Icarus in the epic Losers Hall of Fail.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
8. I don't know much about Jeff Bezos
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jul 2021

.... but in this case of Sir Richard Branson, I am always amused when I see people taking pot shots at a man who has contributed millions of dollars to different charities and causes including significant contributions to the lgbtq community. Of course none of his so-called critics will point out these contributions because it would detract from their goal of being seen as Progressive Warriors in the moral battle against the establishment. I say it's his money, and if he spends 100 million dollars doing good work that benefits others, who am I to tell him he can't spend a hundred million dollars of his own money on other projects?

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
10. My view is, if you're wealthy, it's easy to be a philanthropist.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jul 2021

And the tax write-off doesn't hurt, either.

My admiration is for people who have nothing, but give anyway; give of their time, give any extra they may have so that others don't have to go without, people who give their hearts and souls for their fellow human beings.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
11. I admire those people too...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jul 2021

... for doing what they can. All I can say is when it comes to food, clothing, housing, legal aid Etc, nothing beats a million-dollar shot in the arm. I don't know exactly what you would have Branson do. Refuse the tax write-off? Would you? There are billionaires and millionaires out there who make charitable donations simply for the tax write-off. If you know anything about Branson, then you have to know that he is far more involved and passionate about it than most.

"I now spend the majority of my time working with Virgin Unite to make a positive difference in the world. From supporting projects that I’m passionate about, such as being an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights, drug policy reform and giving ex-offenders a second chance to using my voice and that of the Virgin Group to shine a spotlight on issues that I believe are unacceptable, such as climate change and the death penalty." Richard Branson


https://unite.virgin.com/unite/

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
9. The Mercury spacecraft was originally designed to be fully automatic.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jul 2021

But the Original 7 Mercury astronauts insisted on at least some in-flight control of the craft, proud accomplished pilots that they were.

They refused to be what sneering test pilots called "spam in a can."

Bezos and Branson were passengers, that's all.

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
13. Darn tootin' they aren't astronauts.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jul 2021

Just on the educational aspect alone. I thought astronauts were required to be degreed engineers, for starters.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
14. Question for those who are saying "damn right" - how do you feel about Wally Funk?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jul 2021

Just checking if people have thought this through, or read the whole article.

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