Cop caught in 4k video planting evidence.

[Nevilledog]

Link to tweet

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. Is this what they're talking about when they talk about crime going up across the country?

Let's give cops more money so they can do better training!!!!!!!

[Nevilledog]

2. What's your saying? This can't be reformed? It's that!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. .

[Darwins_Retriever]

4. Training won't do it

need better recruiting. Better background investigations.

Somebody needs to develop personal body cams for citizens.

[Bev54]

6. Recruiting and psychological evaluations that reveal

integrity and empathy. Many Police departments in Canada do that and they learn de-escalation techniques. How the hell does that asshole think he is going to get away with that.

[WA-03 Democrat]

7. Not the first time

the simple flick of the wrist and in it went all too well. He's had practice. Wonder where he got the drugs from?

[leftieNanner]

8. Something like this happened to my husband

He was in college in the 70s - long hair and driving a VW bug through a very rural area in Northern California with a buddy. Two sheriffs pulled them over - tail light out or some such BS. While cop #1 was checking his license and registration, the other cop went around the other side, dropped a baggie of pills in the back seat on the floor. "Well now, what have we here?"

They would have been railroaded into prison immediately except for the fact that cop #2 asked for the buddy's ID and when he recognized the last name as a powerful man in the community, there was all kinds of back tracking and apologizing happening.

The cops are no different from the robbers. Except for the badge and the bad hair cut.

[Bev54]

11. Wow

[uponit7771]

28. Fuckin WOW !!!

[MustLoveBeagles]

31. Wow

Your hubby and his friend were very lucky.

[mopinko]

36. one big reason i left my small town for the big city. small town cops.

i had to chuckle at your story, since i had almost the same experience. they didnt plant drugs on me, but they did pull me over cuz i was driving an old bug, and i was a female w a couple guys in the car at 3am. 1 had very long hair.

i did have an issue w my plates. but they wouldnt have known that if they didnt run my plates just cuz.

[SergeStorms]

21. Without that camera on his mirror...

he gets away with it. Every time. Those cameras are invaluable to any motorist. Accidents, traffic stops, verifying other's actions, they're worth their weight in gold.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

33. "Better" recruiting/background checks won't do it either.

[TexasBushwhacker]

41. Firing and putting them on a "do not hire" list for life might

[radius777]

65. The local politicians and police unions tend to protect bad cops and bad practices.

The only way to solve this issue is to bust the unions and rehire based upon merit. Alot of what cops do also is financially motivated. More crime is actually good business for them and so they prefer conditions that require more hiring of police and more overttime. IOW, it's a moral hazard.

The left is usually pro-union, and so the cops use this to shield themselves, and of course the right will never seek to reform the police.

It's why people can march against systemic racism all day long - the cops don't give two shits about any marches or protests. They live above the law because they know they have zero accountability.

[a kennedy]

5. WTF???

[SledDriver]

9. I am not a lawyer

But doesn't this action now call into question EVERY case that this officer was involved in where evidence was "found"?

[Bev54]

12. I would certainly expect so.

[Mysterian]

10. Penalty for this should be 10 years in prison with no parole

This crime destroys the fabrc of our society.

[Celerity]

13. +10000000000000000

[uponit7771]

29. yep, and highly publicized sentencing too.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

14. That is infuriating!

[rockfordfile]

15. That should a ex-cop

[Stuart G]

16. Caladrona Wisconsin Facebook..? ( that is where the picture says, says nothing where it took place)

repeat...says nothing where this took place..could have taken place anywhere U.S.A.

from original post...............:m.facebook.com/Village-of-Cal

[mockmonkey]

23. Caledonia Wisconsin

https://m.facebook.com/Village-of-Caledonia-Police-Department-140549396033336/

They comment about it about a third way down the page.

The link is in the post but maybe some can't connect to it?

[Stuart G]

34. We all know that I cannot spell..Thank you for the correction

[mockmonkey]

35. It really wasn't meant as a correction

I'm in Wisconsin and I just know of that area. I wasn't sure myself if there was another State with a City named Caledonia.

[Prichards115]

17. piece of garbage

Not only should he be fired, he should be sent to jail as an example to other pigs not to do this.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

38. You might want to read the update I posted at the bottom of this thread. nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

18. Here is some local coverage

https://journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/with-video-caledonia-police-chief-responds-to-allegations-officer-planted-evidence/article_453495a3-4b3f-55b7-a49f-7c204c1c11c1.html


With video: Caledonia Police chief responds to allegations officer planted evidence

CALEDONIA — The Caledonia Police Department announced on Saturday afternoon it would be conducting a comprehensive internal review after cellphone video surfaced online that appeared to show a CPD police officer planting evidence in a vehicle.

The video has been widely circulated on social media.

In the video, shot from within the front-seat area of the vehicle, the officer can be seen walking up to the vehicle, throwing something small and white into the back seat, then preparing to put on his gloves.

The video then pans to show a baggie on the back seat of the vehicle.

[uponit7771]

24. WHOA !!! This is so fucked up that they have to investigate at all !! LEO had a his own body cam on

... too !!

Damn

[lapucelle]

42. Some of the police bodycam video has been released.

https://heavy.com/news/caledonia-police-video/

[uponit7771]

44. This makes it worse, he pulls something out of the guys pocket throws it in his car and gloves up

... I thought the police would show unedited video too.

[lapucelle]

49. It makes it worse that it's an empty baggie that belonged to one of the guys

who had been sitting sitting in the back seat?

The cops released the relevant "baggie" excerpts from the bodycams of 2 different cops. They posted one video of the empty bag being found in the pocket of one of the passengers and then being handed handed off to another cop. The other video was of the same exchange that GlockBoy Savoo filmed. There were no edits in the excerpts that the cop released.

The video appears to have been removed from GlockBoy Savoo's facebook page, and a local newspaper (The Racine County Eye) was unable to reach him for a comment.

I'm not sure what's more remarkable, that anyone would actually advocate that there is no need for investigations or that anyone would dig in to defend an instagrammer who so clearly played his audience and fans with a 16 second video that contains a cut.

[uponit7771]

51. Irrelevant whether it was empty or full, the LEO tossed the item out of BC frame then proceeded to

... glove up.

Fuck that janky shit,

Even the PD Chief said he's "discouraging" his UNI's from throwing trash back into peoples vehicles.

The LEOs actions not matter the intent doesn't INCREASE public trust in cops when it comes to black people ... PERIOD

[lapucelle]

54. It is relevant that it was an empty bag. Do you know what feels janky?

Releasing a 16 second cut video claiming to have caught police planting evidence in your car when you know that it was an empty bag that belonged to one of your passengers.

He gets extra janky points for being unavailable to speak to the local press.

[uponit7771]

55. 100% irrelevant, he tossed item out of BC frame and gloved up that doesn't engender trust at all

... no matter what the LEOs intentions are.

He gets extra janky points for removing the video from his social media page and being unavailable to speak to the local press.

Also irrelevant, the person had a duty to society to report what he saw and coorperate with the police. After that he isn't obligated to do shit else including keeping a video that has already went viral or talk to the media.

Could care less if the victim talked to anyone I care more about LEOs keeping GOOD relationship with the communities they're serving.

This LEO did nothing to further than relationship with tossing items into a persons car out of frame.

[lapucelle]

56. You can keep saying it's irrelevant that the bag was empty and that it belonged to a passenger,

but that doesn't make it true.

It's relevant because the cop was not caught planting evidence; he was "caught" tossing an empty bag that belonged to a passenger back into the car. The cop was also "caught" explaining exactly that to the guy who posted the misleading video.

[Effete Snob]

59. What was the plan?

Nobody got arrested for the "planted evidence" which is obviously an empty bag.

So what was the goal of the nefarious plot?

[uponit7771]

61. Same plan Chauvin had when he tortured a guy for 9 minutes and then murdered him in front of childre

... none

That's what entitled unprofessional cops have no plans they just fuck things up.

I don't give unprofessional cops the benefit of the doubt

[Effete Snob]

62. So, I want to see if I understand you

During this stop, a cop found a piece of trash on an occupant of the vehicle, handed it to another cop, who put it back in the car.

Nobody was arrested. Nobody was beat up. The occupants of the vehicle returned to the vehicle and proceeded on their way, presumably with whatever you believe was "planted" in the car. But nothing ever came of it.

And this was all part of an intentional plan to, I guess, put an empty plastic bag into a car, and is the same thing as choking someone to death?

A plan so devious that it has no point, no payoff, nothing in it for anyone!

The guy who posted the video, however, KNEW where they bag came from, but you trust that person, yes?

[Dr. Strange]

40. Interesting.

So the tweet that started that thread apparently has disappeared, and now it looks like the only thing that's happened is the driver got a speeding ticket.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/caledonia-police-release-body-camera-footage-in-viral-traffic-stop-video

[mockmonkey]

20. Why would he put his gloves on after he threw the baggie?

Wouldn't his fingerprints be on the plastic? Dumbest Cop or what? Or is he going to say he forgot to put the gloves on when he first picked up the baggie from the back seat but then why throw it back in the car. I can't see what his defense is.

[uponit7771]

22. No, not if he has powered fingers etc and it doesn't look like that cop was thinking in any

... way to do what he did throwing shit into the persons car in the first place.

Yeah, training my ass ... new leadership

[DemUnleashed]

25. This...

This kind of stuff infuriates the crap out of me!!! 😤

[uponit7771]

26. AH !!! The "toss" was done with the body cam facing forward and his hand out of frame !! This is why

... we need to record the cops cause the cops will erase shit

This is so fucked up, just north of Racine too !!!

[qazplm135]

27. given the way he threw it in

body camera wouldn't have picked it up.

[PurgedVoter]

30. How many families has this man destroyed. How many lives ruined.

If this cop does not see the most extreme charges possible then the community's law enforcement needs to be shut down. All cases that this officer was involved in need to be reviewed and dropped. The FBI needs to examine every file and the finances of everyone involved in this police department.

[MustLoveBeagles]

32. This

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. Read the update at the bottom of this thread. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. Update:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/wisconsin-police-hit-back-at-social-media-video-accusing-officer-of-planting-evidence/ar-AAMxxF8?li=BBnbfcL

Wisconsin police hit back at social media video accusing officer of 'planting evidence'

A police department in Wisconsin is hitting back against a cell phone video taken during a traffic stop circulating on social media, arguing that body camera footage showing the incident from a different vantage point, proves that an officer did not try to "plant evidence" in the back seat of the vehicle.

The incident happened Wednesday at about 3:22 p.m. when officers from the Village of Caledonia Police Department conducted a traffic stop for a vehicle traveling 63 mph in a 45 mph zone. The driver was identified by her driver’s license, and two rear passengers who were not wearing seatbelts were asked to identify themselves and were later removed from the vehicle, police said.

The front passenger, who police say lawfully declined to identify himself, recorded a video on his cell phone that was later posted to social media with the caption, "Cop caught in 4K planting evidence."

It shows an officer appear to toss something in the back seat, before the front passenger tells him, "I got you on camera, bro." The officer responds, "I got you on camera, we’re all good."

It now looks like this was a case of an attempted gotcha on the officer.
I shudder to think what would have happened to this officer if not for the different body cam angles.

Another excellent reason all police officers should be wearing body cameras.

[Ms. Toad]

43. I don't see it as an attempted gotcha on the officer.

I suspect the front seat passenger really was concerned about what had been thrown in the car.

But I do see it as a reason to not jump to conclusions.

The comments in the police department thread (and many here) were obviously made by people who hadn't bothered to watch either of the other two videos (one of which was posted in the same thread).

From the snippets I saw, however, I don't see a valid reason for the search that exceeded a terry stop search (pat down permitted, but you don't get to pull things out of pockets unless they are obviously dangerous or evidence of a crime). Once the search was over - and apeared to reveal nothing, he was handcuffed. In my give-a-moose-a-muffin mantra for Criminal Procedure - there has to be something to trigger each elevation in search or seizure. A corner tear they acknowledged contained no contraband (the most nefarious thing they found in the search) doesn't seem to justivy elevation to an arrest.

There may have been more in the videos I don't see. But based on what I could see - I'd be one pissed young man.

[uponit7771]

45. +1, the LEO tossed an item out of his cams frame of view then gloved up. The PD Chief admitted to it

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... and we're supposed to think this is all not janky.

They're gas lighting

[Ms. Toad]

47. Did you watch the other two videos?

There was a lot that led up to that toss. The arrest was before the toss. (Or perhaps simultaneous with it). The corner tear came out of the pocket of the guy put in handcuffs.

At any rate I was responding to someone who seemed to be suggesting that the passenger, not the officer, was attempting a gotcha to smear the officer. You might want to re-read the post i responded to. I was defending the passenger.

[uponit7771]

48. My bad, I edited the my post. I've read the BDND post and they're in 100% gas lighting ...

... ass covering mode I misread your post.

What pisses me off is the PD Chief knows the LEO tossed the item out of body cam frame then gloved up.

That IN AND OF ITSELF is fucked up

[lapucelle]

53. I think guy filming was concerned as well (and with good reason) until the cop answered

his questions. However, when he posted his 16 second video (with a cut), he knew where the bag came from and that there was nothing in it. I think he misled his audience/followers.

As for the search, on the cop's bodycam video, you can hear the cop asking the passenger's permission. It's probably technically legal, but asking for permission seems (on its face) coercive, and that needs to be addressed, possibly through the legislature or the courts.

I watched the video twice because I thought the passenger was being cuffed after the search, but it looks to me that he was handcuffed for the search and then the handcuffs are removed after the search. Whether its SOP (or legal) to handcuff someone during a voluntary search is a question that the police need to answer.

There were no arrests, according to the police, but a traffic citation was issued.

[uponit7771]

46. The PD video is worse !! PD Chief verified LEO tossed an item in the guys car then gloved up how

.... world does different angles help this?

The toss back in the car is janky in and of itself and that's enough to fuck peoples lives up ... wtf people ?!

[Effete Snob]

63. Because he wanted his fingerprints on the planted evidence!

I get what you mean.

Yeah, he handles it with his bare hands, making sure his own fingerprints would be on the "planted evidence" and then puts his gloves on.

Either that or maybe he wasn't too concerned about something handed to him by another cop, and was not expecting to come into contact with the occupants or their possessions in the first place.

But, yes, of course, it makes all kinds of sense. When they are planting evidence, they want to make sure they get credit for it by putting their own fingerprints on it.

[uponit7771]

64. Yep entitled unprofessional Leo's don't do sensical shit IE like Chauvin they fuck things up

[ecstatic]

50. And this is why this nonsense continues to happen

As long as a cop says it, it must be true.



My take? He planted it on the other guy first then decided it would be better to plant it inside the car. Two for the price of one.

[uponit7771]

52. RIGHT !!! The copologist want to gas light people into seeing the tossed item in BC frame when it

... clearly isn't when looking at the BC video.

The LEO tossed the item out of BC frame then gloved up, no matter what the intentions those actions do not INCREASE trust towards LEOs when it comes to black people.

Even the PD Chief says he's "discouraging" people throwing items back into cars ... cause yeah normally they do janky shit like that all the time.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

58. ....

[MarineCombatEngineer]

57. Well, you're gonna believe what you want to believe,

despite what the so far released videos show.

[Effete Snob]

60. So, the cops are giving out free drugs now?

Nobody was arrested, and everyone went on their way.

The cops just went through an elaborately choreographed plan to give them free drugs?