A speaker at one of the M4M4ALL rallies today:

[George II]

This guy is SERIOUS!!!

"I think Medicare for All should apply to pets too!" (starts at about 35 seconds)

Link to tweet

[abqtommy]

1. I actually have no problem with that.

[George II]

6. I hope you're being facetious.

[abqtommy]

7. Nope. I'm not even being snarky. Otherwise I'd have said so. Many people have high regard

for their pets.

[George II]

8. When I was very young and growing up in a tenement, we were infested with roaches....

....and rats.

Perhaps we should have healthcare for roaches and rats?

Where does it end?

[abqtommy]

16. "I hope you're being facetious." What goes around comes around!

[George II]

21. Nope. Once a year we packed away all our dishes, covered the furniture and my father set off....

...a "bomb" to kill all the critters in the apartment. Then we'd go out for a few hours. When we came home they spent the rest of the afternoon cleaning up the dead insects, etc. and wiping down everything.

It worked for a few months but being in a building with other residents they gradually found their way back in.

Getting back, just what is your logic behind providing Medicare or Medicaid to pets?

[abqtommy]

23. My original reply here is "I actually have no problem with that". Pets have been important to

me in my life, and the lives of many other people. I have no logic to persuade you of anything. That's my opinion and it's as good as anyone's. This is your op and you can accept the replies you get. Or
not. That's up to you.

[George II]

25. We took our cat to the vet about six weeks ago. On the way I had to stop to get gas....

....why don't we include filling our gas tanks in M4A. Further, we had to use my car because my wife's wouldn't start. When do we add car repairs to M4A?

[leftyladyfrommo]

15. I wish I had Medidog for my dogs.

Veterinary care cost is through the ceiling.

[Hortensis]

18. Us too. Democrats are only fighting to add dental, hearing, vision to Medicare

and as usual failing to address people's real needs.

Vet care has moved on from deworming and removing fish hooks. A friend gives her diabetic dog insulin injections each day and is at the vet's and/or animal hospital for something else serious at least once a month, and some other friends who strain to provide medical care for themselves recently got snowed under with diagnostic, surgical and hospital bills after their dog was found to have liver cancer.

Someone has to pay for pet care, and obviously that should be everyone.

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. A lot of the problem is due to huge student loan debt

that veterinarians carry.

Just giving help for that would make a big difference

[Hortensis]

20. Yes, that needs addressing, but I'd wish more than expect a helpful difference.

It won't bring down their own costs for the very sophisticated and advanced services they are now able to provide. That's the big difference from the past, same as for people medicine.

Mostly a very good thing, of course. But our own experience is that in our "fixed-income" years we can't afford pets any more because modern veterinary medicine has advanced as it has for people. Far more can be done for our beloved little creatures than in the past, and much of it will always be very expensive. And of course we couldn't say no while we had savings to draw down.

[leftyladyfrommo]

22. I'm the same way. I'm on SS. I have 3 dogs.

I can't afford all that fancy stuff. I do the best I can but those expensive diagnostics are out of reach for us.

Fortunately my vets are really good and they have worked so long they just know what's wrong from symptoms


They also understand that we are on a fixed income.

Lots of people can't afford thousands of dollars in fees.

I have a friend that is a vet and she feels like she deserves to get those prices and everyone needs to get insurance. Of course, she can do most if her own veterinary care.

[Hortensis]

24. I can sympathize with your vet friend too as many people can afford

to spend fortunes on their pets, and want to. And they can afford insurance. Our daughter and her husband have two cats and two dogs who all have regular professional grooming appointments and are boarded at a pet resort whenever they go away for even a weekend.

In our day our kids didn't even get that level of special care. We traded favors with friends for both kids and critters and threw them in the tub when turning the hose on them wasn't enough.

It's just a shame when people who'd like to give a home to an animal decide not to for this reason, and I suspect more are having to.

[TexasTowelie]

2. Will I need to purchase coverage for Part B and Part D as I enroll in Medicat?

One of her nine lives depends on it.

[George II]

26. I think for a cat that's Part C. Which of her nine lives depend on it? Should we add all nine....

...to Medicat.

Perhaps we should change the proposal to Medicare for Everything.

[Haggard Celine]

3. Who is this guy supporting, or is he

just speaking in favor of Medicare for all? If he's supporting a specific candidate, he's probably doing them more harm than good.

[albacore]

4. Well.... that's not as much of a boondoggle as the F-35. nt

[leftstreet]

9. +1

[brush]

5. Sorry, someone should've taken the mic from him when he started in on...

pets getting medicare. That will never fly.

[alphafemale]

14. Allowing crazy talk like that is something the right wing media would replay continuously.

It could decimate the prospects of Democratic candidates across the boards.

And I have my pet covered by a health insurance plan, btw.

But there is no way it should be mandated.

[George II]

27. Unless it's a pet bird.

[Sympthsical]

10. And for the next trick

Will we get OPs making fun of BLM protests and marches?

Conservative slips are unsightly things.

[Autumn]

29. They do seem to be in vogue.

[George II]

30. The OP contains a video of one of the leaders of the rally. Conservative slip?

[progressoid]

33. Indeed.

[Tarc]

11. That high-pitched nasally tone is nauseating. Susan Sarandon-like Greenies

just have punchable faces, and don't realize how they have been propped up and supported by the far-right, in an attempt to enable them to be spoilers.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[alphafemale]

13. That resembles the attendance at pro war rallies

We used to make fun of.

I thought this movement had more legs.

[Hortensis]

17. :) Well, maybe if they promise it'd cover pets more would come out.

[NurseJackie]

28. Ridiculous! Totally absurd. They're crackpots...

... who will make it impossible to accomplish anything.

[Ron Green]

31. One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme.

We have enough investment schemes in this country; we need a health care system.

Making fun of the over-the-top utterances that are bound to come along in this important fight, in the service of defending the immoral corporate system under which we have all been struggling, is inexcusable.

[progressoid]

32. Yeah, cuz one rando guy represents the entire movement.

[George II]

34. Nobody said he did. But he WAS the leader of that particular, small, group.