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Sad. Once again people are dying in this country by the thousands from deciding they wont get the shot or wear a mask, is 600 thousand deaths not enough?? This is a fucking insane. Does Fox News want to be responsible for even more deaths? Obviously they dont care. Pushing conspiracy theories, and right now Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says its optional That people would get a shot or wear a mask. Florida is leading the nation right now in Covid deaths and hospitalizations according to CNN.
One doctor interviewed mentioned that his patient wanted to get the Covid shot after she caught Covid and how he said it was too late. I dont get it. People not believing in science. People not believing in doctors or think that the government is doing something to them that they dont understand. Its very sad. I dont know when this is going to stop however I do know more deaths are coming. Its depressing. Its frustrating.
spanone
(135,832 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Agree completely, YoshidaYui
I don't ever watch MSM anymore.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)The anti maskers and anti vaxxers arent just impacting themselves. Young children and immuno-compromised people dont have a choice. But they dont care and are proud they dont care.
Read yesterday about an incident in SoCal outside a breast cancer clinic. A breast cancer patient was assaulted by a woman protesting mask mandates at a *breast cancer clinic* 😡😡😡 Something in place way before covid. These people are not able to be reached.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)I read that by October, there could be 840 dying daily from Covid - these are deaths that could be prevented by a couple of SHOTS - it is insane.
I do feel a shift in the country - before, it was the anti-vaxxers who were angry - now, those of us who are vaccinated are increasingly fed up with these fucking STUPID ASSHOLES who are prolonging the pandemic misery......ENOUGH ALREADY.
Our country leads the world in the pandemic and the hospitalizations and deaths. This is not going to stop anytime soon. And as you say its the Anti Vaxers and Anti maskers are to blame. Thing is eventually theyre going to get this disease and find themselves in the hospital trying to breathe wishing they had gotten the shot. But its going to be too late. Coffin time.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,218 posts)I am NOT making this up. With some of my family members, COVID-19 and the vaccine shots are about Politics. They won't get the shot because .... of Trump. Or .... because of Biden. HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET. You may get sick and die because of politics. My cats are smarter than that.
moose65
(3,166 posts)And his Republican enablers. THEY are the ones who made this political, not Democrats and other sane people. Many Republicans would have been promoting the vaccines, if not for fear of Trump. It is absolutely insane.
KS Toronado
(17,235 posts)NNadir
(33,518 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Im sure theyll find a way to blame this on Biden. Assholes.
Trueblue1968
(17,218 posts)Woodwizard
(842 posts)He is diabetic high blood pressure and a racist alcoholic and is proud he has not gotten the vaccine. There is a very good chance he may kick the bucket if he gets it. OH well......
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I think most would have gotten the shot but I remember back in September or October a lot of liberals questioning the vaccine and its rollout, suggesting Trump was rolling it out too fast.
The best thing to happen to this country was Biden winning because had Trump won, I still suspect his supporters wouldn't take the vaccine, he wouldn't be as adamant about them taking the vaccine and we'd have skeptical liberals thrown in to boot.
McKim
(2,412 posts)With Trump is elected again, I know a lot of progressives will just leave. Love it or leave it, I will leave it!
thucythucy
(8,052 posts)You'd think if nothing else their feality to their dear leader would make them reconsider.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)they are out there on the front line doing their best to defeat the virus, and that includes dealing with the deniers, especially when they show up pleading to be 'healed' and made better.
Reminds me of the old joke.........
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Living in an insane world.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)I was in school then. Everyone knew someone who'd gotten polio and was on crutches or braces. There was no question about getting vaccinated.
Not to mention all the other childhood diseases we'd all been vaccinated before.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)Our moms couldn't get us in for that vaccine fast enough!
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)Warpy
(111,261 posts)People 35 and younger tend to think they have all the time in the world to accomplish things they'd rather not do that give them only a negative benefit (like not getting sick or dying), so they procrastinate until it's too late.
People who've had a couple of teeth go bad or who need bifocals or who have a funny pain in a knee tend to know their days are numbered . Still, the younger they are, the more they procrastinate.
We can't do this for them, they have to be scared enough to do it for themselves. Outreach making it really convenient can help. They still need to go in and get the shot.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)She said she was strong, healthy, and works out, and doesnt think shell ever get the virus because shes a healthy person and it wont affect her. This is exactly the kind of person who is going to end up in the hospital on a respirator and later dying. And thats sad. When she said all that my first thought was sayonara.
mgardener
(1,816 posts)I think they are tempting fate with those words.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)thinks if she eats organic food she will be safe. A 100% anti-vaxxer.
Her daughter got a cold and the mom blamed it on the candy bar she had eaten.
RainCaster
(10,874 posts)They can watch all the people around them get sick and they still think "it will never happen to me". It is a terminal case of stupidity. Years ago I heard a guy talking about generational topics, and he insisted that the millennials have a better BS detector than any other generation before or after. I'm not buying it. these kids have swallowed every bit of bullship the GOP has put forth including all the shit about Covid vaccines being connected to the Bill Gates mind control chip. What a bunch of $%^&.
moondust
(19,981 posts)Hatred of government has grown over the past 40+ years, at least starting with Reagan assuring the greedy, lawless fools that "big government" is the problem and not the solution. Of course hatred of the government didn't die across the South after the Civil War and that's probably one of the deep roots. Another root is probably the gun culture with the NRA and GQP preaching (for profits) that everybody needs guns to keep the big, bad government in check.
There's always been nuts but I didn't know it was this widespread and deadly stupid.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,190 posts)They have because they aren't stupid, just evil. The same for MTG and her HIPPA defense. Moronic! Does she not care that HER BASE is dying by the thousands?
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)The republican party is a death cult. They want their constituents to die. Otherwise they be trying to save their fucking asses.
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MyMission
(1,850 posts)As are many of these red run states, which makes it even scarier and concerning to me.
And breakthrough infections of the vaccinated are happening at a higher rate, although we don't really know those numbers either. Any of us could have caught it, felt ok or a little sick and never got tested. They will downplay the number of these, even as they report on Olympic and other athletes (NY Yankees recently) who are vaccinated and infected, but not seriously ill. That was one goal of the vaccine, although they'd hoped it would prevent infection. It probably did originally but the Delta variant changed that. And because of the unvaccinated, the virus will continue to spread and mutate!
I've still been wearing a mask at work and in stores since being vaccinated in April.
2 weeks ago I felt like I was fighting a cold or bad allergies. Lasted 2 days. Didn't get tested or think it might be covid, at first. If I didn't feel better quickly I might have gotten tested. Who knows? But it made me think. Most of us who are vaccinated wouldn't seek out a covid test unless we'd been exposed, and felt really ill.
The numbers reported and projected are not good, not accurate, and getting worse.
Please continue to wear a mask! (I assume I'm preaching to the choir.)
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)How simple is that?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)I sure hope the Dr's tell them they forfeited that months ago by not having a few shots.
calimary
(81,265 posts)"They're killing people."
I frankly don't mind if their own people take it in the shorts. But their own people are out there defiantly ignorant as can be, not wearing masks and deliberately not getting vaccinated, and their carelessness, selfishness, arrogance, and proud stupidity will further spread the virus.
Politicalgolfer
(317 posts)I truly think we are experiencing a natural selection event. Ignorance cannot survive in the modern world. It creates the means to its own death. We have celebrated & glorified ignorance for several decades now and so built it to the point where it now is coming to the logical conclusion of causing death on a large scale. That same ignorance is also meeting its logical conclusion of killing the planet itself. Perhaps the deaths of these fools will eventually save the planet.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)seeing for 22 years, and learned that HE and his physician wife are both unvaccinated!
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Medical people are supposed to do research and know their craft. Sounds like this one squeaked by in medical school:
thucythucy
(8,052 posts)to another doctor.
And I would explain to the practice my reasoning.
It's a question of simple competence.
Not to mention, whatever happened to "First do no harm?" Providing a petri dish for variants to arise, possibly exposing patients to a life threatening and altering illness would certainly fall under the definition of "doing harm."
marybourg
(12,631 posts)to make that her last visit to his office.
AllaN01Bear
(18,216 posts)frogmarch
(12,153 posts)CNN or MSNBC that a nurse, like the doctor you mentioned, said that when she was about to intubate a Covid patient, the patient grasped her hand and said "Please give me the vaccine." The nurse had to say that sorry, it was too late.
Awful. A living nightmare.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)There will be a lot of funerals this fall..
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)got Polio. Everyone at the day camp rushed out to get a vaccine shot. Polio was life damaging and
killed. Covid deaths are at 600,000 and climbing. The vaccine prevents death. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUTA FEW DEATHS..Auto accidents kill 50,000 a year, and this is twelve times that. (and totally
preventable if you get the vaccine..
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT VACCINATED?
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Said, One person was convinced that she was too healthy to get sick. And another one thought that if she got the vaccine, She thought She would be injected with some kind of tracking device. Hey Id rather be tracked then dead .
Its almost like they dont believe people are dying around them. Or they just dont care.
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)wait until they get Covid to ask for the vaccine.
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)I belong to a local FB group for holistic health and it has been taken over by deniers.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Its going to be devastating.