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YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 07:57 PM Jul 2021

The news on CNN today is becoming

Sad. Once again people are dying in this country by the thousands from deciding they won’t get the shot or wear a mask, is 600 thousand deaths not enough?? This is a fucking insane. Does Fox News want to be responsible for even more deaths? Obviously they don’t care. Pushing conspiracy theories, and right now Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says its optional That people would get a shot or wear a mask. Florida is leading the nation right now in Covid deaths and hospitalizations according to CNN.

One doctor interviewed mentioned that his patient wanted to get the Covid shot after she caught Covid and how he said it was too late. I don’t get it. People not believing in science. People not believing in doctors or think that the government is doing something to them that they don’t understand. It’s very sad. I don’t know when this is going to stop however I do know more deaths are coming. It’s depressing. It’s frustrating.

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The news on CNN today is becoming (Original Post) YoshidaYui Jul 2021 OP
K&R spanone Jul 2021 #1
K & R Budi Jul 2021 #2
It's infuriating and exhausting. TDale313 Jul 2021 #3
it's very distressing to see Skittles Jul 2021 #4
This! YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #7
'Its too late', sends a powerful message to others empedocles Jul 2021 #5
I am NOT making this up. With some of my family members, COVID-19 and the vaccine shots are about Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #6
And that is ALL the fault of Trump moose65 Jul 2021 #9
And because of this they will pay a heavy price come the 2022 midterms KS Toronado Jul 2021 #12
Especially if they kill off their constituency. n/t. NNadir Jul 2021 #19
I wonder how many people will be dead by then? YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #21
1/2 million people died in our country BECAUSE OF TRUMP. He should be brought up on murder charges Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #36
Have a brother in law like that. Woodwizard Jul 2021 #18
I do wonder how the left would handle it if Trump had won reelection. Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #28
Trump Elected Again? McKim Jul 2021 #30
How do they respond to the news that Trump and his family all got the shot? thucythucy Jul 2021 #43
I truly feel sorry for the medical community...... MyOwnPeace Jul 2021 #8
Sometimes it seems like we are YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #13
I can't imagine stuff like this happening back in the 50s when Polio was rampant. kskiska Jul 2021 #10
A friend in Kindergarten had a mild case of Polio leftieNanner Jul 2021 #32
TFG has done irreparable harm to the country Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #11
Part of the problem is the immortality of youth Warpy Jul 2021 #14
One woman on CNN was interviewed YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #15
When I hear people like that, mgardener Jul 2021 #17
A Woman I Know leftieNanner Jul 2021 #33
Not immorality, stupidity RainCaster Jul 2021 #16
It is insane. moondust Jul 2021 #20
The thing is, most of the Faux talking heads HAVE GOTTEN THE VACCINE! TexasBushwhacker Jul 2021 #22
The only thing I can conclude is YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #24
And Florida is underreporting as usual MyMission Jul 2021 #25
Right, wear a damn mask!! YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #26
When they come with the form do you want us to use extrodinary measure to keep you alive... Historic NY Jul 2021 #27
Joe Biden is right - about Pox Noise and the republi-CON echo chamber. calimary Jul 2021 #29
A natural selection event Politicalgolfer Jul 2021 #31
My neighbor went to her internist, who she's been marybourg Jul 2021 #34
Now there is a WTF YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #39
I would immediately start exploring options to shift thucythucy Jul 2021 #44
Yes, she was incredulous, furious and determined marybourg Jul 2021 #47
thanks to tfg for weaponizing this . AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #35
Also it was reported on either frogmarch Jul 2021 #37
A lot of right wingers are going to end up that way. YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #40
In the 50s the Polio Vaccine Was No Joke...Someon at the day camp I was going to Stuart G Jul 2021 #38
Well as I YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #41
There's a lack of understanding of the science if they think they can GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #42
This has weighed heavily on me today. Delphinus Jul 2021 #45
Wait til the Gamma variant arrived here YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #46

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. It's infuriating and exhausting.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:08 PM
Jul 2021

The anti maskers and anti vaxxers aren’t just impacting themselves. Young children and immuno-compromised people don’t have a choice. But they don’t care and are proud they don’t care.

Read yesterday about an incident in SoCal outside a breast cancer clinic. A breast cancer patient was assaulted by a woman protesting mask mandates at a *breast cancer clinic* 😡😡😡 Something in place way before covid. These people are not able to be reached.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
4. it's very distressing to see
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:10 PM
Jul 2021

I read that by October, there could be 840 dying daily from Covid - these are deaths that could be prevented by a couple of SHOTS - it is insane.

I do feel a shift in the country - before, it was the anti-vaxxers who were angry - now, those of us who are vaccinated are increasingly fed up with these fucking STUPID ASSHOLES who are prolonging the pandemic misery......ENOUGH ALREADY.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
7. This!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jul 2021

Our country leads the world in the pandemic and the hospitalizations and deaths. This is not going to stop anytime soon. And as you say it’s the Anti Vaxers and Anti maskers are to blame. Thing is eventually they’re going to get this disease and find themselves in the hospital trying to breathe wishing they had gotten the shot. But it’s going to be too late. Coffin time.

Trueblue1968

(17,218 posts)
6. I am NOT making this up. With some of my family members, COVID-19 and the vaccine shots are about
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:14 PM
Jul 2021

I am NOT making this up. With some of my family members, COVID-19 and the vaccine shots are about Politics. They won't get the shot because .... of Trump. Or .... because of Biden. HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET. You may get sick and die because of politics. My cats are smarter than that.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
9. And that is ALL the fault of Trump
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:39 PM
Jul 2021

And his Republican enablers. THEY are the ones who made this political, not Democrats and other sane people. Many Republicans would have been promoting the vaccines, if not for fear of Trump. It is absolutely insane.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
21. I wonder how many people will be dead by then?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jul 2021

I’m sure they’ll find a way to blame this on Biden. Assholes.

Woodwizard

(842 posts)
18. Have a brother in law like that.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jul 2021

He is diabetic high blood pressure and a racist alcoholic and is proud he has not gotten the vaccine. There is a very good chance he may kick the bucket if he gets it. OH well......

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
28. I do wonder how the left would handle it if Trump had won reelection.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jul 2021

I think most would have gotten the shot but I remember back in September or October a lot of liberals questioning the vaccine and its rollout, suggesting Trump was rolling it out too fast.

The best thing to happen to this country was Biden winning because had Trump won, I still suspect his supporters wouldn't take the vaccine, he wouldn't be as adamant about them taking the vaccine and we'd have skeptical liberals thrown in to boot.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
30. Trump Elected Again?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:07 PM
Jul 2021

With Trump is elected again, I know a lot of progressives will just leave. Love it or leave it, I will leave it!

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
43. How do they respond to the news that Trump and his family all got the shot?
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jul 2021

You'd think if nothing else their feality to their dear leader would make them reconsider.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
8. I truly feel sorry for the medical community......
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jul 2021

they are out there on the front line doing their best to defeat the virus, and that includes dealing with the deniers, especially when they show up pleading to be 'healed' and made better.

Reminds me of the old joke.........

A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"


kskiska

(27,045 posts)
10. I can't imagine stuff like this happening back in the 50s when Polio was rampant.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:43 PM
Jul 2021

I was in school then. Everyone knew someone who'd gotten polio and was on crutches or braces. There was no question about getting vaccinated.
Not to mention all the other childhood diseases we'd all been vaccinated before.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
32. A friend in Kindergarten had a mild case of Polio
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jul 2021

Our moms couldn't get us in for that vaccine fast enough!

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
14. Part of the problem is the immortality of youth
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jul 2021

People 35 and younger tend to think they have all the time in the world to accomplish things they'd rather not do that give them only a negative benefit (like not getting sick or dying), so they procrastinate until it's too late.

People who've had a couple of teeth go bad or who need bifocals or who have a funny pain in a knee tend to know their days are numbered . Still, the younger they are, the more they procrastinate.

We can't do this for them, they have to be scared enough to do it for themselves. Outreach making it really convenient can help. They still need to go in and get the shot.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
15. One woman on CNN was interviewed
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:01 PM
Jul 2021

She said she was strong, healthy, and works out, and doesn’t think she’ll ever get the virus because she’s a healthy person and it won’t affect her. This is exactly the kind of person who is going to end up in the hospital on a respirator and later dying. And that’s sad. When she said all that my first thought was sayonara.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
33. A Woman I Know
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:20 PM
Jul 2021

thinks if she eats organic food she will be safe. A 100% anti-vaxxer.

Her daughter got a cold and the mom blamed it on the candy bar she had eaten.

RainCaster

(10,874 posts)
16. Not immorality, stupidity
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jul 2021

They can watch all the people around them get sick and they still think "it will never happen to me". It is a terminal case of stupidity. Years ago I heard a guy talking about generational topics, and he insisted that the millennials have a better BS detector than any other generation before or after. I'm not buying it. these kids have swallowed every bit of bullship the GOP has put forth including all the shit about Covid vaccines being connected to the Bill Gates mind control chip. What a bunch of $%^&.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
20. It is insane.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jul 2021

Hatred of government has grown over the past 40+ years, at least starting with Reagan assuring the greedy, lawless fools that "big government" is the problem and not the solution. Of course hatred of the government didn't die across the South after the Civil War and that's probably one of the deep roots. Another root is probably the gun culture with the NRA and GQP preaching (for profits) that everybody needs guns to keep the big, bad government in check.

There's always been nuts but I didn't know it was this widespread and deadly stupid.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
22. The thing is, most of the Faux talking heads HAVE GOTTEN THE VACCINE!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:39 PM
Jul 2021

They have because they aren't stupid, just evil. The same for MTG and her HIPPA defense. Moronic! Does she not care that HER BASE is dying by the thousands?

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
23. The only thing I can conclude is
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:46 PM
Jul 2021

The republican party is a death cult. They want their constituents to die. Otherwise they be trying to save their fucking asses.

Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #22)

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
25. And Florida is underreporting as usual
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jul 2021

As are many of these red run states, which makes it even scarier and concerning to me.

And breakthrough infections of the vaccinated are happening at a higher rate, although we don't really know those numbers either. Any of us could have caught it, felt ok or a little sick and never got tested. They will downplay the number of these, even as they report on Olympic and other athletes (NY Yankees recently) who are vaccinated and infected, but not seriously ill. That was one goal of the vaccine, although they'd hoped it would prevent infection. It probably did originally but the Delta variant changed that. And because of the unvaccinated, the virus will continue to spread and mutate!

I've still been wearing a mask at work and in stores since being vaccinated in April.
2 weeks ago I felt like I was fighting a cold or bad allergies. Lasted 2 days. Didn't get tested or think it might be covid, at first. If I didn't feel better quickly I might have gotten tested. Who knows? But it made me think. Most of us who are vaccinated wouldn't seek out a covid test unless we'd been exposed, and felt really ill.

The numbers reported and projected are not good, not accurate, and getting worse.

Please continue to wear a mask! (I assume I'm preaching to the choir.)

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. When they come with the form do you want us to use extrodinary measure to keep you alive...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jul 2021

I sure hope the Dr's tell them they forfeited that months ago by not having a few shots.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
29. Joe Biden is right - about Pox Noise and the republi-CON echo chamber.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jul 2021

"They're killing people."

I frankly don't mind if their own people take it in the shorts. But their own people are out there defiantly ignorant as can be, not wearing masks and deliberately not getting vaccinated, and their carelessness, selfishness, arrogance, and proud stupidity will further spread the virus.

Politicalgolfer

(317 posts)
31. A natural selection event
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:16 PM
Jul 2021

I truly think we are experiencing a natural selection event. Ignorance cannot survive in the modern world. It creates the means to its own death. We have celebrated & glorified ignorance for several decades now and so built it to the point where it now is coming to the logical conclusion of causing death on a large scale. That same ignorance is also meeting its logical conclusion of killing the planet itself. Perhaps the deaths of these fools will eventually save the planet.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
34. My neighbor went to her internist, who she's been
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:22 PM
Jul 2021

seeing for 22 years, and learned that HE and his physician wife are both unvaccinated!

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
39. Now there is a WTF
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:20 PM
Jul 2021

Medical people are supposed to do research and know their craft. Sounds like this one squeaked by in medical school:

thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
44. I would immediately start exploring options to shift
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jul 2021

to another doctor.

And I would explain to the practice my reasoning.

It's a question of simple competence.

Not to mention, whatever happened to "First do no harm?" Providing a petri dish for variants to arise, possibly exposing patients to a life threatening and altering illness would certainly fall under the definition of "doing harm."

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
37. Also it was reported on either
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:50 PM
Jul 2021

CNN or MSNBC that a nurse, like the doctor you mentioned, said that when she was about to intubate a Covid patient, the patient grasped her hand and said "Please give me the vaccine." The nurse had to say that sorry, it was too late.

Awful. A living nightmare.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
38. In the 50s the Polio Vaccine Was No Joke...Someon at the day camp I was going to
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:07 PM
Jul 2021

got Polio. Everyone at the day camp rushed out to get a vaccine shot. Polio was life damaging and
killed. Covid deaths are at 600,000 and climbing. The vaccine prevents death. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUTA FEW DEATHS..Auto accidents kill 50,000 a year, and this is twelve times that. (and totally
preventable if you get the vaccine..

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT VACCINATED?

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
41. Well as I
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:29 PM
Jul 2021

Said, One person was convinced that she was too healthy to get sick. And another one thought that if she got the vaccine, She thought She would be injected with some kind of tracking device. Hey I’d rather be tracked then dead .

It’s almost like they don’t believe people are dying around them. Or they just don’t care.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
42. There's a lack of understanding of the science if they think they can
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jul 2021

wait until they get Covid to ask for the vaccine.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
45. This has weighed heavily on me today.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jul 2021

I belong to a local FB group for holistic health and it has been taken over by deniers.

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