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Heavy metal band Iced Earths guitarist Jon Schaffer, who pleaded guilty to charges related to the Capitol riot, had feces thrown at him and faced death threats during a hellish stint at an Indiana jail, according to his lawyer. The comments made during a March court hearing were revealed Thursday, prompting Schaffers transfer to a Washington, D.C., jail before he was released on bail in April. My client, who is presumed innocent, has just gone through two months of hell where other people were throwing feces at him and urine at him and threatening his life in a horrible, horrible situation, Schaffers attorney Marc Victor said at the hearing, according to the Indianapolis Star. Schaffer was segregated due to his public status but it led to prisoners tormenting him.
Schaffer, a self-described founding member of the Oath Keepers, became the first insurrectionist to plead guilty and cooperate with the feds. He is expected to face between 3.5-4.5 years in prison.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lawyer-says-iced-earth-guitarist-jon-schaffer-had-feces-urine-thrown-at-him-in-indiana-jail?ref=home
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,168 posts)These people including the president and his GOP followers after that insurrection, if this had been ANYTIME prior to the sixties?
It would be more like death, and not poop.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)that they tried to overturn our vote and install that fucking grifter as dictator. They're going to have a particularly miserable time in prison, the only gangs that will have them are far too hard core for squishy white bread suburbia doing cosplay in WalMart camo.
KS Toronado
(17,229 posts)is why I firmly believe we will dominate the 2022 & 2024 elections
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,168 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I have no sympathy for him. He was part of a violent insurrection, so he's getting just a bit of what he deserves.
Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)I'm SO sorry he was inconvenienced by those ruffians in jail.
tanyev
(42,553 posts)By Carl Campanile and Yaron Steinbuch January 8, 2021 | 12:18pm | Updated
They turned the US Capitol into a craphouse.
Some invading rioters defiled the hallowed seat of democracy with their dung in their ill-fated effort to overturn the election, a source close to incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told The Post.
Congressional staffers saw feces in the hallways, the source said Friday.
The vile vandals apparently took dumps in bathrooms and then spread around their poop, a Schumer insider said.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/rioters-left-feces-urine-in-hallways-and-offices-during-mobbing-of-us-capitol/
Sibelius Fan
(24,396 posts)What people?
Well for one, the attending clergy.
😂😂😂
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Beausoleil
(2,843 posts)Or so I heard.
Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)Kilmead needs a turd tossed his way. Shit sticks on shit.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Let me think, oh yes,
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)You'd better give us something worthwhile information and names in your cooperation because prison will make jail seem like summer camp.
underpants
(182,791 posts)Of course he could just be a flaming asshole and hed get some sort of treatment like this regardless of why hes in there.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Someone who is all talk and nothing to back it up will be on a pretty low rung of the pecking order.
I doubt the guy has much in the likes of fight in him if he is not with a crowd seeking to intimidate and bully.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,047 posts)Talk is cheap. Where are your Proud Boys now?
niyad
(113,293 posts)about how he was getting weak and sick in jail? Poooooor widdle snowflake.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)Turns out these "tough guys" aren't nearly as tough as they thought.
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Because some people are saying the peeps in jail are just acting like tourists
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)Silent3
(15,210 posts)Prisons should be set up in such a way that it's incredibly difficult for prisoners to abuse each other. Otherwise our system is cruel and unusual punishment, with just a wink and a nod that we aren't directly responsible for it.
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Wackenhut won several major government contracts in the 1980s. Its 1983 three-year, $81 million contract at the Savannah River Site in South Carolina was the largest paramilitary security contract ever awarded by the U.S. government. A $5 million, three-year contract in 1984 to create and manage the Department of Energy's Central Training Academy in Nevada continued to be held by the company through 1995, when it was renewed through the year 2000 for $58.6 million. Another significant, and lasting, contract began in 1986, when Wackenhut was awarded $25.3 million for security services at the DOE's Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
During the 1980s, financial pressures, as well as overcrowding, led to the privatization of increasing numbers of state and federal corrections facilities. Wackenhut ventured into this new market when WSI was hired to design, construct, and operate an Immigration and Naturalization Service detention center in Colorado in 1987. In the next year, Wackenhut formed Wackenhut Corrections Corporation (WCC) as a wholly owned subsidiary and received contracts for two 500-bed facilities in Texas. WCC went public in 1994, selling approximately 26 percent of its stock, with the remainder under Wackenhut Corp.'s control. By the end of 1994, the number of prison beds under its direction had totaled 14,000. With annual revenues of $105 million, consultant and construction fees generating an additional $80 million, and profit margins as high as 10 percent, corrections became one of the most successful areas of Wackenhut's business. Facilities under WCC's control included prisons in Australia, England, and Puerto Rico, as well as in six states in the United States, with ten facilities in Texas alone. A contract in December 1994 for the construction and management of a 1,300-bed medium-security prison in Florida provided WCC with $50 million, its largest contract as of that date.
Silent3
(15,210 posts)...have had a big problem with prisoner-on-prisoner violence for a very long time, from well before privatization became a thing.
The sad truth is that too many of us like the idea that prisoners will brutalize each other to generate enough political will to change the system.
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Prison is not an exception
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)Somebody obviously had some shit to give!!
Tennessee Hillbilly
(587 posts)A guilty plea and cooperation usually leads to a shorter sentence.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)He is being held to see how good his information is and that will determine the deal he gets.
Plead guilty to conspiracy. The info better be good.
Paladin
(28,255 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,328 posts)If I were Jon Schaeffer, I would pay less attention to shit thrown at him, and fire his friggin incompetent POS lawyer. He is the actual piece of shit who can do some real damage to his client.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,643 posts)WA-03 Democrat
(3,047 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,445 posts)The first pic shows hes obviously used to being covered in shit so maybe they thought he likes it
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)That Gibson should be given to a better musician and human.
I suggest a guitarist from the "Democrat" party...
Takket
(21,564 posts)Is more patriotic than drumpf fans. I hope this is a preview of how their lives in prison are going to go.
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)We've witnessed the integrity of these Right Wing lawyers over the last few years.
If they say something, I don't believe it unless they can show me irrefutable evidence.
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Hotler
(11,421 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)I care - NOT
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)I'm a big fan of Metal. I'm aware of this guy's band.
I saw his band several years ago, at a festival. Iced Earth was a third tier act, at best. Four years ago, the local band I was in was to be the support act for them on a bill at a club here ( Chicago area). First, they didn't show up,. Second, there were no more people at that club that night than there would have normally been on a Saturday night.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)I'm not condoning prison violence, but this kind of shit (pun intended) is relatively mild from what I understand. I've never been behind bars and I don't ever intend to be. I just hope it's an uncomfortable enough experience for him and his ilk that they'll reconsider their future actions when they get out.
Also, since he's a felon, he can't vote and can't own a gun. Sweet!
hot2na
(357 posts)My client, who is presumed innocent, has just gone through two months of hell where other people were throwing feces at him and urine at him and threatening his life in a horrible, horrible situation,
In other words; Welcome to F***ing jail you terrorist scumbag. If you were a law abiding citizen instead of a worthless piece of shit, you wouldn't be in that situation.
bucolic_frolic
(43,149 posts)I think it'll be more like embezzlers and wife-beaters. They tried to end our democracy.
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)in many areas including how prisoners (assuming with guards looking the other way) to attack fellow inmates.
On the other hand
.
And I actually feel guilty for feeling this way. Maybe I wouldnt feel so guilty if a treasonous Congress critter ended up there.
Crap, more guilt.
Handler
(336 posts)Life is hard, life is real hard when you are an insurrectionist.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)And your guitar playing sucks too.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)SledDriver
(2,059 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)DemUnleashed
(633 posts)After reading this, honestly I don't know if my day will get any better!!! 👏
Firestorm49
(4,033 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)niyad
(113,293 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)WhiteTara
(29,706 posts)good mouthpiece though.
durablend
(7,460 posts)That he could've kept this all from happening....
orwell
(7,771 posts)...Jail sucks.
That's why normal people try to avoid doing stupid things that sends them there.
Enjoy your stay...fascist moron.
Botany
(70,501 posts)BTW as noted up thread he has plead guilty so he is not presumed innocent.
Johnny2X2X
(19,061 posts)These people are traitors to America, they hate their country, that doesnt fly in jail.
Kid Berwyn
(14,900 posts)Traitors lucky.
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)and wait for a return call, since he loves Trump enough to commit felonies for him. Then practice flinging poo to get ready for his return to prison.
Trueblue1968
(17,217 posts)UnderThisLaw
(318 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)actions.
TFG's white supremacist insurrectionists who tried to trash our democracy and our country won't fare well in prison.