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Southerners are dying because they are sick of Democrats? (Original Post) DURHAM D Jul 2021 OP
Just dying to own the libs, right? Ocelot II Jul 2021 #1
This! YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #45
Trump & Murdoch's families knew what was best, that's why they all got vaccinated early on. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #64
Bye - bye..... magicarpet Jul 2021 #2
Dying ??? See ye, wouldn't wanna be ya !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #11
No objections. dalton99a Jul 2021 #3
Ever since Ancient Greece, nothing has been as cathartic as an asshole being self-owned. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #67
Major objections. quakerboy Aug 2021 #95
Good article. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #4
Exactly. My pre-K kids used that line on the playground! It's essentially the same Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #72
They are owning the Libs . .. Lovie777 Jul 2021 #5
How stupid can you get? dhol82 Jul 2021 #6
Approximately... SergeStorms Jul 2021 #26
Deplorables will accept your challenge IronLionZion Jul 2021 #31
They are irresponsible and poor decision makers. Of course they need Bristlecone Jul 2021 #7
There are going to be a lot of dead people soon. YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #8
Good for them, Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #9
Well....................... LW1977 Jul 2021 #10
No, they're "turning down Covid-19 vaccines" because they were told by Trump and his enablers sop Jul 2021 #12
Dying for T***p's failure (sins). Well, shucks. Nt Baked Potato Jul 2021 #13
You mean "The Chosen One". How pathetically stupid they are. Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #73
Oh yeah that's right... Chosen One.. Baked Potato Jul 2021 #81
Dumb Asses spanone Jul 2021 #14
Sounds like excuse making to me. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #15
The vax rate among blacks in the south is very low. Treefrog Jul 2021 #16
Seems like the churches should be stepping up there. Mariana Jul 2021 #19
Many of the churches in our area Dreampuff Jul 2021 #62
I think where it is due to resistance it is a different dynamic altogether salin Jul 2021 #25
Of course it's a different dynamic. That's why these hate on the anti-vaxxers threads irk me so much Treefrog Jul 2021 #29
Just a few days ago there was a post here about a black couple who died for that exact reason. deurbano Jul 2021 #33
That's true ornotna Jul 2021 #27
have you noticed Skittles Jul 2021 #84
don't forget shoplifting at Target and Walgreens tenderfoot Jul 2021 #87
Yes I have ornotna Jul 2021 #89
Many of them are suspicious of medical discrimination IronLionZion Jul 2021 #34
In southern black communities, that's a function of a history.... paleotn Jul 2021 #38
Exactly, and people need to stop the gloating over the unvaxxed getting sick. Treefrog Jul 2021 #43
Not gloating, just incredulous. At least their fear may have historic rationale? Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #75
Pretty sure it's more a product of historic white supremacy, and shit like the Volaris Jul 2021 #52
The people I know who are refusing to get vaccinated ecstatic Jul 2021 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 2021 #85
The black rate of vaccination Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #93
Also shows the successful/sane Democratic positions triggering Baked Potato Jul 2021 #17
Yes, that's about the size of it. Mariana Jul 2021 #18
Death by kamikazi, death by cop... now death by covid. nt lamp_shade Jul 2021 #20
Stupid is as stupid does. blueinredohio Jul 2021 #21
Fine. Die. progressoid Jul 2021 #22
The new flood Traildogbob Jul 2021 #23
*WEARY SIGH* ShazzieB Jul 2021 #24
Response I saw elsewhere: Grokenstein Jul 2021 #49
I have some limited sympathy for people who are just fearful and/or stupid. enki23 Jul 2021 #28
Owning themselves to own the libs IronLionZion Jul 2021 #30
Well...bye. paleotn Jul 2021 #32
HA!! I was thinking; "Did someone already post the.....?", And there Carlitos Brigante Jul 2021 #36
I wonder if Boothe Powers ever realized... paleotn Jul 2021 #40
I can't remember off the top oy my head. But he passed away, right? I hope it Carlitos Brigante Jul 2021 #94
The best way to teach Democrats a lesson is to suffer and die off from a pandemic their chosen one Renew Deal Jul 2021 #35
Indeed. Whatevvvvverrrrr... calimary Jul 2021 #37
I wish the church would but out of public health. Pepsidog Jul 2021 #39
Actually, the black churches should be stepping up to overcome vax resistance in the black Treefrog Jul 2021 #44
Black churches aren't radical idiots. Pepsidog Jul 2021 #68
Not every black person goes to church. ecstatic Jul 2021 #83
Sorry, but Democrats in Washington DO know what's best; way better than RepubliQons anywhere. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #41
No. They're stupid motherfuckers brainwashed by fundy preachers and fascist repugs. rickyhall Jul 2021 #42
Whelp, that's one way to get away from us. Vinca Jul 2021 #46
Suits me fine Leith Jul 2021 #47
It's their funerals. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2021 #48
Oppositional Defiant Disorder on a region-wide scale. Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #50
The Sooner These People Go, The Better COL Mustard Jul 2021 #60
If you have zero regard for a person or a group ... Martin Eden Jul 2021 #51
die away Prichards115 Jul 2021 #53
no, they're dying because they're stupid, bigoted fucks - the rest is just an excuse bringthePaine Jul 2021 #54
Bye, y'all. BHDem53 Jul 2021 #55
Sick of Democrats. Interesting word choice. Idiots. bronxiteforever Jul 2021 #56
As another southerner often says, "You can't fix stupid." Brother Mythos Jul 2021 #57
K mcar Jul 2021 #58
Well... NQAS Jul 2021 #59
When I ask if anti-vaxxers about their issues with the vaccine... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #61
There are so many people in foreign countries MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #63
Wow an entire Parish full of STUPID. If God didn't want scientist to make vaccines why does...... usaf-vet Jul 2021 #65
I say to all the Republican/Nazi anti-vaccination people, 'good the fuck bye'. johnthewoodworker Jul 2021 #66
Y'know, I participate in boycotts on principle, and soldierant Jul 2021 #69
Suits me. Step up the speed, assholes. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #70
Oh for the love of God Hekate Jul 2021 #71
The principle reason they are doing this rests on the same abuse they have been told is normal. Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #74
Because they're stupid fucking yokels, that's why. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #76
There are ripple-effects to this "tsunami" of infections Fritz Walter Jul 2021 #77
Please proceed rubes. kairos12 Jul 2021 #78
It goes both ways. I'm sick of wingnuts trying to force their ideas on the rest of us. n/t Blaukraut Jul 2021 #79
Pretty sure that's what the rebels said at Gettysburg... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #80
Get ready for the next phase DFW Jul 2021 #86
My county (Wayne) is at about 34% one shot, 30% both dsc Jul 2021 #88
Fareed's Take: Why America's anti-vax problem is unique LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #90
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #91
Is Vaxed America Running Out of Patience? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #92
Darwinianism at its purest.NT. anamnua Aug 2021 #96

quakerboy

(13,919 posts)
95. Major objections.
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 02:30 PM
Aug 2021

I dont particularly want to die or face a long term disability because of these questionable quivering Qristains.

And every one of them that refuses is another chance for delta to spread, and another chance for another mutation to happen.


If only we could set up doses of vaccine in those darts they use to shoot dangerous animal with tranquilizers, and set a bountys for those who can vaccinate the most unvaccinated folks.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
26. Approximately...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jul 2021

the same level of stupidity exhibited by the people who believe that horse-hockey.

Bristlecone

(10,125 posts)
7. They are irresponsible and poor decision makers. Of course they need
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jul 2021

Someone to tell them what to do. They can’t be trusted to do the right thing. ever. “Self-regulated” people shouldn’t be.

sop

(10,156 posts)
12. No, they're "turning down Covid-19 vaccines" because they were told by Trump and his enablers
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

for well over a year the whole thing was a hoax, shutdowns and wearing masks were part of a liberal plot to take away their freedoms, the vaccines were unproven and would hurt them, and it would only affect other people. Blaming democrats because they want to vaccinate as many Americans as possible is just mindless.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
15. Sounds like excuse making to me.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jul 2021

Personal freedom also means taking personal responsibility for your decisions.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
16. The vax rate among blacks in the south is very low.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

I’m not sure if people here think that’s a function of hating Dems too?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
19. Seems like the churches should be stepping up there.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jul 2021

What are the black churches doing to convince their members to get vaccinated, and to help them do so by providing rides and such?

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
62. Many of the churches in our area
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jul 2021

Did double as vaccination sites on Sunday morning when the vaccine was really hard to come by. Many of them were churches with majority black congregations. But you're right. I imagine some areas aren't doing that. My location is Southern, although we aren't actually like the Southerners in States north of us.

Some of the black people fear getting a vaccine because they had been used as guinea pigs in the past. White people don't have that excuse and I think it is just their stubborn and redneck attitude and their love for the orange one and they are endangering all of us.

salin

(48,955 posts)
25. I think where it is due to resistance it is a different dynamic altogether
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jul 2021

have heard a deep distrust based on the history of the Tuskegee Experiment.

As pointed out elsewhere it seems that many African American churches are involved in trying to reassure people to convince them to get vaccinated.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
29. Of course it's a different dynamic. That's why these hate on the anti-vaxxers threads irk me so much
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jul 2021

People are ignoring one of the largest groups of non-vaxxers.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
33. Just a few days ago there was a post here about a black couple who died for that exact reason.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142773678

They were just 49 and 53. Such a tragic waste. The husband had actually graduated from Tuskegee.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
84. have you noticed
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jul 2021

some people care only about POC when they can use them to make a point? You know like....guns and Chicago

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
34. Many of them are suspicious of medical discrimination
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jul 2021

Tuskegee is often mentioned but there are plenty of recent examples of discrimination in treatment. It's mostly about racist southern docs refusing to prescribe lifesaving treatments to "undeserving" people rather than maliciously injecting bad stuff into them.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
38. In southern black communities, that's a function of a history....
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jul 2021

far more nefarious than white southerners and their faux outrage over damn near everyone and everything.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
43. Exactly, and people need to stop the gloating over the unvaxxed getting sick.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

Blacks are at higher risk from this disease, both contracting it and becoming seriously ill from it.

Unfortunately, they are refusing the vaccine at a greater rate than white southerners. My neighbors are two such people, and the woman is a nurse.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
52. Pretty sure it's more a product of historic white supremacy, and shit like the
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:54 PM
Jul 2021

Tuskegee Experiment...

Outreach IS important, even IF republicans wont liaten...

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
82. The people I know who are refusing to get vaccinated
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jul 2021

are concerned about the long-term side effects. It is impossible to reassure them because it's true that we don't yet know the long-term side effects.

Response to Treefrog (Reply #16)

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
17. Also shows the successful/sane Democratic positions triggering
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jul 2021

immature and irresponsible response from Republicans.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
18. Yes, that's about the size of it.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jul 2021

This story is about the politics, but religion is a huge factor too. The churches should be leading the charge to convince people to get vaccinated, arrange and provide transportation for those who need it, and make their sites available as vaccination centers. But instead, so many of the churches in this part of the world are actively preaching against the vaccine. What's to be done about that? I don't know if anything can be done.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
23. The new flood
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

God sent Trump, god sent Covid. Maybe this is new flood where he selects the ones that die this time instead of destroying all, and allows his good creations to continue, and start saving the planet he wants taken care of. Just saying, he works in strange ways, some “peepbull” are saying.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
24. *WEARY SIGH*
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jul 2021
"Many people are turning down Covid vaccines because they are angry that President Donald Trump lost the election and sick of Democrats thinking they know what’s best."

The expressing "cutting off your nose to spite your face" keeps coming to mind.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
49. Response I saw elsewhere:
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jul 2021

"We've gone from 'cutting off one's nose to spite one's face' to 'lopping off one's head to spite one's nose.'"

enki23

(7,787 posts)
28. I have some limited sympathy for people who are just fearful and/or stupid.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jul 2021

I have no sympathy for this. Usually these nuts socialize their pain for whatever benefit their private insanity provides. For once, a greater share of their pain falls on the people who deserve it. And I'm grimly satisfied to watch them suffer their own fucking harm for once. The only reason I care *at all,* is that they are going to clog up the healthcare system once again. And because they will also take down a small but real number of people around them who don't fucking deserve it.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
40. I wonder if Boothe Powers ever realized...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jul 2021

how useful that little snippet of dialog would be? It perfectly fits so many situations.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
94. I can't remember off the top oy my head. But he passed away, right? I hope it
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jul 2021

wasn't before someone could show him being "immortalized".

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
35. The best way to teach Democrats a lesson is to suffer and die off from a pandemic their chosen one
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jul 2021

Ignored, dismissed, and mismanaged. That will learn them Democrats.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
44. Actually, the black churches should be stepping up to overcome vax resistance in the black
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:31 PM
Jul 2021

community.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
83. Not every black person goes to church.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:08 PM
Jul 2021

I don't know anyone who attends church except for a few of my relatives who are Jehovah's witnesses.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
42. No. They're stupid motherfuckers brainwashed by fundy preachers and fascist repugs.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jul 2021

When I grew up in Fort Worth all I knew were Johnson Democrats. When I was moved to Arkansas in 1972 most everybody around were Democrats. Then came the Reagan Con and suddenly everybody liked Yankee Carpetbaggers and it all went to shit. BTW: My dad, being a racist, went big for George Wallace and, later, Reagan and TFG. But he missed the last election, he up and died.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
47. Suits me fine
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:46 PM
Jul 2021

Since many of them think that the blood of Christ covers them and will protect them from harm.

The US should send their vaccinations to India and other countries where people don't have access to them.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
60. The Sooner These People Go, The Better
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:13 PM
Jul 2021

They will only improve society and the overall gene pool by leaving it.

Goodbye and good riddance. Sorry you died, but no sympathy for you.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
51. If you have zero regard for a person or a group ...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jul 2021

... why would you allow them to influence a critical decision concerning your own well being and that of your family?

 

Prichards115

(37 posts)
53. die away
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jul 2021

screw the racist repuke south. if they are too stupid to save their own lives I hope they kill themselves by covid.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
61. When I ask if anti-vaxxers about their issues with the vaccine...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jul 2021

...they always deflect the question and start talking about how it's all China's fault and the Wuhan lab. I should share with them...if China wanted to destroy the Republican party, all they'd have to do is spread disinformation about the dangers of the vaccines. It's Trump Republicans who are getting and spreading the illness like wildfire. Just something to think about.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
63. There are so many people in foreign countries
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jul 2021

that would give anything to have an abundance of vaccine. A small but loud minority of Americans behave like tantrum throwing toddlers. It's not just southerners or trumpers either although they may make up the majority. If these people were only hurting themselves I wouldn't care as much. There are immune compromised people and kids under 12 that they're endangering with this dumbassery. Local health officials are misdirecting their anger at Biden and the Democrat's. They should be angry with trump, wrong-wing radio and tv personalities, and most of the republican party.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
65. Wow an entire Parish full of STUPID. If God didn't want scientist to make vaccines why does......
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jul 2021

..... he/she allow it to happen in the first place? Look at it this way vaccines and other medical miracles are sanctioned by GOD.

Step up to be a real believing Christian first and a political nut jobs last.

soldierant

(6,847 posts)
69. Y'know, I participate in boycotts on principle, and
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:29 PM
Jul 2021

sometimes that involves some personal sacrifice, and some personal stubbornness and self control Bt I cannot even imagine being that stubborn, and especially when it is an issue of life and death. I'd rather live to botcott another day.

Ford_Prefect

(7,887 posts)
74. The principle reason they are doing this rests on the same abuse they have been told is normal.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jul 2021

Southern States in particular were built on the conceit of the rich land owners that everyone else was beneath them. EVERYONE Else. This is an extension of the same mindset that made serfs the property of the lord of the manor.

Throughout their lives the people who now follow TLG and his mania and who resist against anyone he names as the enemy have been told that anyone who appears to be above them socially or economically has stolen something from them. The implicit lie is that there is a fixed social class structure and that they aren't high enough up that ladder as long as someone else isn't beneath them. It is a twisted view of society and it has been handed down to them from our English forebearers from a time when a person's value was measured by how close to the royal family you could claim to be or conversely how far from God's right hand you were.

I do not excuse them on this basis. However it is important to understand that they have no clue how much they are themselves enslaved by this myopic racist perspective.

They have been carefully taught...

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
77. There are ripple-effects to this "tsunami" of infections
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 04:49 PM
Jul 2021

Not the least of which are:
- Spreading the virus to vulnerable people who may not happen to subscribe to their ideology; and
- Overwhelming the health-care system, which has a "cascade" effect on treatment of other patients who urgently need care.

Along that second point: two days ago, my next-door neighbor, who was jabbed months ago -- died because he suffered a pelvic fracture, but because a local hospital (in northeast Florida), was swamped with COVID patients -- most of whom are un-vaxed -- he passed. He was a Korean War veteran and deserved much better treatment than to be shuffled around and eventually sent to a "rehab" facility, which is where he died.

Who knows how many other non-COVID patients are being sidelined so that the current health-care system can respond to this heightened pandemic? What happened to the original concept of "triage" where those with the best likelihood of survival were given the highest priority?

While I'd very-much like to dismiss this instance as Karma kicking-in, I will continue to advocate for vaccinations, masking, social distancing, and other measures that would help us dig our way out of this nightmare. Rather than accelerating it. And yes, GOOBERnor DeathSentence, I mean you!

Personally, I don't want to lose any more family-members, friends, and neighbors to the Delta (Karma) Variant! I'd like for us to not only survive, but also use this chapter in our history to transform our political, health-care, and social systems to PREVENT further pandemic consequences.

Is that asking too much of the government that is supposed to provide for public safety, etc.?



Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
80. Pretty sure that's what the rebels said at Gettysburg...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jul 2021

and The Wilderness, and Spotsylvania, and Petersburg.

Maybe you're dying on the wrong hills.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
86. Get ready for the next phase
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jul 2021

Republicans will refuse to eat salad because Democrats tell them it's healthy.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
88. My county (Wayne) is at about 34% one shot, 30% both
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

at this rate we will never have herd immunity here. I am beyond disgusted with these people.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,130 posts)
92. Is Vaxed America Running Out of Patience?
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jul 2021

Sane and intelligent Americans are getting tired of ignorant idiots who refuse to be vaccinated


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